Originally Posted by BBXX (Post 11544380)

I agree that there have been times where he has come across pretty smug. I don't agree with everything Ali has called him out on/said about him, but I don't think she's entirely wrong.

Him and Segun sitting in the hot tub smirking/laughing came across as an intimidation tactic, and extremely juvenile.

Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11544097)

I'm glad he's finally realising it's a waste of time to even try with Ali ,as all she's doing is draining the life out of him.

I think he has the best idea ,of just staying civil but not trying to be her friend.

And I don't know what planet Emmy is on about ' Khaled fancying Ali", either Emma is trying to stir things or she genuinely believes that nonsense.

I wish Emma didn't blurt out that crap ,as now it's just giving Ali more excuses to be the way she is with Khaled, notice how it's suddenly " Khaled who was off with her " , like is she delusional....erm she created an issue with Khaled,he doesn't care about her sexual orientation...he was still getting to know her back then , she thinks the
Whole world revolves around her aka 'The Ali show '.

Originally Posted by Swan (Post 11543713)

Such a shame how Ali's hatred of him has ruined his time in the house.

Originally Posted by vesavius (Post 11544521)

TBF, it took Ali's bullshit to wake him up.

I consider her a manipulative abusive hypocritical borderline sociopath.

Originally Posted by BBXX (Post 11544555)

For the love of god please touch some grass. That's a gross assessment based on a few hours footage of someone. Your hatred for someone you don't know is not healthy.

Originally Posted by vesavius (Post 11544521)

I consider her a manipulative abusive hypocritical borderline sociopath

Originally Posted by BBXX (Post 11544560)

To suggest Ali is abusive is truly insulting to people who are actual victims of abuse.

Originally Posted by vesavius (Post 11544596)

When you cannot counter a statement attempt to shame those that hold it.

I consider grooming to be a psychologically abusive act.

Originally Posted by FromBB8 (Post 11544558)

I do find her cold, conniving, manipulative and hypocritical myself, though I wouldn't go as far as calling her a sociopath.

Originally Posted by BBXX (Post 11544600)

There is literally no evidence of grooming. That's my counter argument. :shrug:

Originally Posted by vesavius (Post 11544603)

Then make that argument and don't attack other forum members on a personal level.

I consider her 'adoption' of Lily as a clear case of grooming.

Originally Posted by BBXX (Post 11544610)

I think people who have such ongoing venom towards another human they don't know based on a few hours of footage should be called out for lacking perspective. I won't apologise for that.

Someone calling another person an abuser, manipulative and borderline sociopath based on little evidence and just their interpretation of events cannot cry about being "attacked on a personal level".

I've not actually said anything about your character other than your comments are insulting and lack perspective and should probably take a break in nature.

Originally Posted by vesavius (Post 11544613)

Notice how I disagree with you but somehow manage to not make personal comments on you, no matter what I actually think of your takes?

Look, you saying these things about me isn't gonna shame me out of holding the views I do on Ali, so I don't really get the need to say it.

I merely comment on what I observe in the HMs, as we all do. I find her controlling manipulative hypocritical and deeply dishonest in how she engages with others.

Originally Posted by BBXX (Post 11544618)

you have a right to have them

Originally Posted by GoldGlitter (Post 11544413)

Did you watch live feed last night it was really entertaining and better than the main show. I'm gonna be watching it more often.

Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 11544627)

I watched it for a bit...but its hard work with the bird-song at that time of night. At least when the adverts come on they are going to come to an end after a minute or so...but the bird song can go on and on and on....

However I caught a bit where Lily and BP had had a misunderstanding...and the boys and Sarah chatting in the lounge.

Originally Posted by GoldGlitter (Post 11544366)

We've seen subtle slips of the mask in the house. When he was walking back after smashing the window. When he was in the hot tub after the massive row. Maybe Izaaz going on Friday night won't be such a bad thing because it will go to their heads.

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11545689)

Izaaz might not leave tbf.

The polls indicate that it's going to be close.

Originally Posted by GoldGlitter (Post 11545691)

My friend who I watch the show with voted for Marcello. Who did you vote for?

Originally Posted by GlitterUK (Post 11545573)

Thought Khaled was a champ the way he spoke to Regina, saying if he goes he doesn't want any bad blood. Definitely the bigger person and full credit to him for that.

Originally Posted by BBXX (Post 11544600)

There is literally no evidence of grooming. That's my counter argument. :shrug:

Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11545708)

Both Nathan & Ali are grooming Lily, in Thursday's episode...when Nathan had yet another bitch session about " who is fake" , he was probing Lily for answers ,and making her go along the board of housemates. Whilst he kept being agreeable . I half expected him to throw her a treat ,and say " good girl" .