Daze was firmly in the other camp though, even though she was close to Hannah and while Izaaz was not part of any group particularly, he was closer to Ali than most of the others.

what she should be concerned with is why the public are saving the other group rather than hers, that doesn't seem to have entered or mind or if it has she hasn't voiced it

If anything I'd say Ali's group has had it easier overall. Lily hasn't been up since week 2, BP was only up week 1, Dean has never been up, Sarah has never been up

Sarah isn’t part of Ali’s group

I wouldn't say BP is either tbf.

Dean is lucky...his time is coming :fist:

Would you say Ali's group is just her, Lily and Dean then?

Nathan/BP/Emma/Sarah as a kind of inbetween group?

I feel like Ali's group is Ali, Lily, Dean with Nathan on the side.

She did choose Nathan over Ali though

Yeah. That’s how I see it. And the in between group are the ones who are emerging as the stronger group as they are not necessarily being targeted.

You mean Hannah, and I’d say Nathan has drawn away from Ali’s group. He’s gravitated to Emma and Sarah more in the last two weeks.

It’s the age old thing of thinking theres safety in numbers
There is absolutely no safety in numbers as we have seen over the years in fact it’s one of the biggest downfalls of housemates are those that join certain groups

I think a lot of you worry about who gets nominated or who is left in the house

There can only be ONE winner these day that was not true in the past because certain housemates like jade and others made a fortune despite not winning the show Alison Hammond is another example

But that’s all changed there is no future after bb these days

So back to the one winner , if enough people like you as a housemate you will win

So all the drama that goes on in the show and on here means very little

Yes i mean Hanah :laugh:

I really like Ali, but her obsession with the divide and social pyramids makes her seem "off".

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she is just voicing what hm's are usually thinking :shrug:

Ali is in there to play the game...and she seems to be doing a good job. She has befriended Hanah...and even Segan may warm to her since he thinks her girlfriend likes him...Marcello seems to have moved more towards Lily and Ali this past week. So those blatent early enemies seem to be drawing towards her because she is not playing the 'bad witch' atm and keeping quiet...making them feel almost guilty of having that bad opinion of her in the first place. When she decided to stay and not walk thats when she changed her gameplan...

Its how they nominate will show us if they have been suckered in or not..

..you meaning Ali…?…the thing with Ali’s assessments for me is that there may be some truth and they may reflect thoughts of others also…(…with Khaled for instance…)…Emma has also indicated that he seems quite self aware…but when Ali assesses house dynamics, which it would be natural at specific times to do as well…?..whether it’s something she’s conditioned to do more naturally because of her job etc and she’s more prone to assessing/observing the behaviour of others…?…but she seems to often only look outwards and not look both ways of inner as well and asses her own behaviours and actions and words and part in anything etc with an equal depth….there are always two directions to obsess and observe, aren’t there…

i agree, she seems to lack any meaningful self awareness :laugh:

…yeah I really do think that’s so…I was listening to a bit of audio feed from last night and hew saying that it had never occurred to her that there would be a time when Martha wouldn’t be in the house…that it’s really something that she’d never thought of as a possibility…?…which is just the oddest thing when we’ve sent that she’s such an ‘assessor’ and considers things that we don’t even see as existing…:laugh:…and then a most obvious thing of knowing housemates go and the whole eviction process etc…for me that’s showing her focus as barely ever being on herself in terms of behaviour analysis type stuff…

She'll probably think Khaled is some master in disguise who's foolish the public,can tell it irritated her ...that he was saved . You'd think she'd be glad that she's still in the house.

But no she continues to moan and complain, does she expect Khaled's group to turn on eachother . Her tone deaf remark of " they're all protecting eachother" whilst she's also protecting her own friends... just couldn't make this up Cherie :facepalm:. Ali will never have self awareness. She's poisoning Lily's mind aswell...and I can't even stand Lily.

She views people according to whatever group she perceives them as in, which is 99% of issue.

She could just focus on her. There are plenty of people doing that in the house and not being "picked off". It is a game so everyone has to play. You would never vote for someone who makes your time easier in the house and of course you would vote out people who you know make your life harder... This is one of the lesser hostile BBs by far.

Also, she stayed in!! Is that not encouraging somehow??

…absolutely, it should be encouraging, Maru…and that’s the thing…Ali seems to outwardly look and overthink and over analyse etc ‘to make it make sense’ if you like…because she hasn’t created a balance of self reflection and looking both ways for fault or part in whatever applies to a moment…which means she’ll miss a huge factor that the public haven’t voted her out…

A normal person would just be happy they're safe ,and try and enjoy it . Thomas & Khaled are just relieved to be still in .

Ali seems to only like be reminded it's a game,when she has control of the outcome.

You people are soooo blinkered as regards Ali ..


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When you start watching again your opinion is valid, until then it’s not as you have no idea what you’re talking about. :idc: