…(…I think that it feels like…)…a struggle with self discipline, she may have been more ‘enabled’ by reassurances that it’s all acceptable, rather than being given focus and structure because we all know that’s what is best responded to, in terms of someone learning about their own selves but also in having awareness of others around you and how your own behaviour etc, impacts them…plus, she’s said that she’s very much within her own group and not had experiences of social situations/more diverse group situations…I would say that she herself struggles with that and the group dynamics and really is at a loss at how to express it/her own frustrations…but you’re completely right, it’s all about how behaviour impacts others/the group, no matter what contributes are…

…I think as Baz said…the meows were how she expressed agreement to what was being said…one meow was equivalent to yes, yes…:laugh:…I mean, on a meow scale…?…no matter how difficult her outburst was to watch…?….much less difficult and awkward than George and Rula…

A series highlight

Yes
then she can cry.



It will be a good experience
for this 20-year-old Lady

it's very similar to "i'm cooking an egg for the very first time"

…it’s more similar to …how many decibels to crack an egg…?…plus to burst a group of human eardrums…it will become an iconic moment, I know that…and hopefully the housemate’s hearing capabilities will survive enough damage to be able to re-watch those iconic moments for much time to come…

I just get the impression that it's deeper than that.

Not attempting to diagnose her but it just feels that she has something going on... Her uncontrolled episodes just feel deeper than just a lack of self discipline.

I am surprised that it hasn't been talked about in these terms more. Maybe if she openly spoke about it all it would have been.

I think she was just jealous Ali and Nathan are hanging out and like a small child tried to get attention

it was rather pathetic to witness

She's just a big Sam Kinison fan and was doing an impression

…it feels like a rotating circle, really…to speak about any of how she deals with frustrations and emotions etc…she would, I think…have to see it as a struggle…?…but I agree with what was said on the Live show last night..it feels as though she’s been more enveloped in a blanket of enabling…/…a no, no just carry on being yourself etc…when actually, it doesn’t feel to me, that she’s happy within herself in how she seems to struggle…it’s not about being critical or cruel or blunt or whatever term, it’s about helping her to understand as well because I doubt she does…she releases in the way she does because it’s all she knows…?…but doesn’t seem to actually visibly show any release…she still looks ‘tormented’ with those frustrations to me…

I’m a bit confused
Are you saying that’s a real reaction and not someone faking it for the camera

You think Chinese food is the only type that can use MSG?

No but that is what this thread is about - Lily works in a Chinese restaurant

I agree that's def where Lily has heard of it.

Not speaking for Ammi but I personally think it is real yes.

Annoying, but real.

I’m still not convinced

…yeah, I do think it’s real also…or at least real at times…maybe there are some of the times when she may exaggerate it for drama impact…but I also think it’s the ‘only learned way’ she knows of releasing any frustrations/emotions…and with the ‘meow’ moment in the OP vid…for me it felt very real and uncomfortable to watch ….

That's what boredom does to a person.

We tend to be more charitable towards people that we like and Lily's behaviours make her hard to like at times.

I’m not on the lily hate train

I used to think Pete bennet bb7 winner was fake until I met
So I’m prepared to be proven wrong

You seem to struggle with understanding slight irony.

if you every post any, message me and I will look

Whether her behaviour is real or fake is irrelevant to me, what it is, is ****ing irritating

....................if it annoys nathan/ali...................i will cheer lily on..............meeeoooowwwwww.................... ...

Mark L

Better get to Specsavers first.