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Swan 12-01-2025 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 11598237)
Sounds like English women know more about football than the men do so I’d say a women is more than capable of commentating on it.

I know we don't get on, but just stop, you openly admit you don't know anything about football, which in itself is fine, we all have the right to like, and not stuff, but the more you post about this in comparing the men's game to the woman's game, the more you're digging yourself into a hole. They're simply not comparable.

As for the women on commentary and as pundits, 90% are literally awful and it's shocking at how bad their knowledge is tbh, however i don't let it bother me unlike *cough* Zizu *cough* :joker: . But in saying that, a good 75% of the men are just as awful too. I rarely bother listening to any of it anymore.

Mystic Mock 12-01-2025 05:06 AM

I agree with @Swan about most of the commentators and pundits being godawful.

They have no clue what they're even on about half of the time.

Zizu 12-01-2025 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11598273)
I agree with @Swan about most of the commentators and pundits being godawful.

They have no clue what they're even on about half of the time.


There is ONE decent female ‘footie expert’ and that’s Sue Smith .. sadly she is locked into the Sky Sports Saturday LIVE Scores programme Channel 409 and doesn’t appear anywhere eise . She is actually knowledgeable and likeable- she’s a natural who doesn’t try too hard like all the others .https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...b0712f67c7.jpg

Livia 12-01-2025 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11598215)
If that doll is meant to be sexual then it's failed imo.

But that might just be my phobia of the Sabrina Carpenter look kicking in.:laugh:

LOL... There should have been a trigger warning on the thread for you.

thesheriff443 12-01-2025 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 11598094)
Will male robots fit a female sexual ideal?

No, I thought not. Right now they seem to be following the script of Weird Science. I guess we could get all the nerds laid, then they could concentrate?

The male version would only end up getting put in the spare room

Glenn. 12-01-2025 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Swan (Post 11598269)
I know we don't get on, but just stop, you openly admit you don't know anything about football, which in itself is fine, we all have the right to like, and not stuff, but the more you post about this in comparing the men's game to the woman's game, the more you're digging yourself into a hole. They're simply not comparable.

As for the women on commentary and as pundits, 90% are literally awful and it's shocking at how bad their knowledge is tbh, however i don't let it bother me unlike *cough* Zizu *cough* :joker: . But in saying that, a good 75% of the men are just as awful too. I rarely bother listening to any of it anymore.

It’s the “it’s a man’s game” that’s hilarious though. It’s not even that important.

Whether it’s comparable or not.

Livia 12-01-2025 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 11598401)
The male version would only end up getting put in the spare room

Because women don't like sex as much as men, obviously.........................

Swan 12-01-2025 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 11598409)
It’s the “it’s a man’s game” that’s hilarious though. It’s not even that important.

Whether it’s comparable or not.

Meh, you rarely hear the "it's a man's game" draconian view anymore. In fact, football is the biggest, most multi cultured, and universal game in the world. It brings people from all walks of life together. The days of the (usually white) racist/homophobic/misogynistic lager lout fans have reduced tremendously in the last 15/20 years. Most people aren't bothered if it's men or women on the commentary, or as pundits, but the issue is, and this is just the truth, in recent years (last 3 or 4) women have been rushed into men's coverage of football, which is perfectly fine in itself, but they are presented as "experts" which they clearly aren't.

But i don't really want to debate this, Arsenal vs Man Utd is about to start. My advice would be (to people like Zizu :smug: ) if you don't like it, don't listen to it, don't watch the chat before and after the game. It's not that deep. If you put men, and women together in the hat of pundits and commentators, a good 80% are shockingly bad and annoying. It's nothing new.

Zizu 12-01-2025 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Swan (Post 11598417)
Meh, you rarely hear the "it's a man's game" draconian view anymore. In fact, football is the biggest, most multi cultured, and universal game in the world. It brings people from all walks of life together. The days of the (usually white) racist/homophobic/misogynistic lager lout fans have reduced tremendously in the last 15/20 years. Most people aren't bothered if it's men or women on the commentary, or as pundits, but the issue is, and this is just the truth, in recent years (last 3 or 4) women have been rushed into men's coverage of football, which is perfectly fine in itself, but they are presented as "experts" which they clearly aren't.

But i don't really want to debate this, Arsenal vs Man Utd is about to start. My advice would be (to people like Zizu :smug: ) if you don't like it, don't listen to it, don't watch the chat before and after the game. It's not that deep. If you put men, and women together in the hat of pundits and commentators, a good 80% are shockingly bad and annoying. It's nothing new.


Excellent post …

For myself when required

I mute the commentary and sync with the BBC radio commentary or Talksport but we shouldn’t have to tbh

Niamh. 12-01-2025 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray. (Post 11598132)
Only if they make an Ali model :hehe: Right, Zizu?

Ali wouldn't give Zizu the time of day if she read his opinions in this thread and the football thread. Maybe an Ali robot would [emoji848]

Zizu 12-01-2025 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11598425)
Ali wouldn't give Zizu the time of day she read his opinions in this thread and the football thread. Maybe an Ali robot would [emoji848]


Interesting that you are able to know what people are likely to think about all manner of things

Quite a skill

Niamh. 12-01-2025 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11598427)
Interesting that you are able to know what people are likely to think about all manner of things

Quite a skill

Not all manner of things, no, but Ali is a self-proclaimed feminist and you are.....certainly not, so it's a logical conclusion to come to

Zizu 12-01-2025 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11598431)
Not all manner of things, no, but Ali is a self-proclaimed feminist and you are.....certainly not, so it's a logical conclusion to come to



You seem to think that I don’t respect women which is entirely incorrect .. the exact opposite in fact .

You have also had it in for me since I said that I didn’t like women boxing or doing MMA as I feel its just too dangerous as women are just made differently.

Niamh. 12-01-2025 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11598434)
You seem to think that I don’t respect women which is entirely incorrect .. the exact opposite in fact .

You have also had it in for me since I said that I didn’t like women boxing or doing MMA as I feel its just too dangerous as women are just made differently.

These two paragraphs contradict each other.

PS. I don't "have it in" for you, I find a lot of your posts in regards to women draconian and sexist so I'm going to call them out, I have a right to voice my opinion too even though I'm a woman [emoji6]

Zizu 12-01-2025 02:42 PM

Meet Aria
 
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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11598436)
These two paragraphs contradict each other.

PS. I don't "have it in" for you, I find a lot of your posts in regards to women draconian and sexist so I'm going to call them out, I have a right to voice my opinion too even though I'm a woman [emoji6]

I will never understand how me caring about the wellbeing of female fighters can be seen as disliking women !!!



You seem to be always taking the opposite stance though … on all manner of things nothing to do with unqualified woman punditry ..

I seem to recall making disparaging comments about Katie Taylor ages ago - someone you idolise and so you just seem to hate on me ..

Niamh. 12-01-2025 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11598442)
I will never understand how me caring about the wellbeing of female fighters can be seen as disliking women !!!



You seem to be always taking the opposite stance though … on all manner of things nothing to do with unqualified woman punditry ..

I seem to recall making disparaging comments about Katie Taylor ages ago - someone you idolise and so you just seem to hate on me ..

Nope. There you are with the "all manner of things" claim again. I'm pretty sure I've only ever taken issue with your outdated and backward opinions on women. Or are you accusing me of only pretending to care about women's rights because you said something bad about Katie Taylor one time? [emoji848]

arista 12-01-2025 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 11598094)
Will male robots fit a female sexual ideal?

No, I thought not. Right now they seem to be following the script of Weird Science. I guess we could get all the nerds laid, then they could concentrate?


They should make them,
there would be a market of Rich ladies
interested

thesheriff443 12-01-2025 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 11598412)
Because women don't like sex as much as men, obviously.........................

No they would piss the woman off and be put in the spare room
I wasn’t thinking of their sexual use at this point in time

Mystic Mock 13-01-2025 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11598301)
There is ONE decent female ‘footie expert’ and that’s Sue Smith .. sadly she is locked into the Sky Sports Saturday LIVE Scores programme Channel 409 and doesn’t appear anywhere eise . She is actually knowledgeable and likeable- she’s a natural who doesn’t try too hard like all the others .https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...b0712f67c7.jpg

I like Sue Smith and Clinton Morrison off of that Show, oh and Paul Merson.

The others I find to be a bit dull on there tbh.

Mystic Mock 13-01-2025 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 11598381)
LOL... There should have been a trigger warning on the thread for you.

:laugh:

A rare time where I would've supported a trigger warning.:joker:

Mystic Mock 13-01-2025 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 11598465)
They should make them,
there would be a market of Rich ladies
interested

:yuk:

No to both male and female sex dolls.

user104658 13-01-2025 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11598434)
You seem to think that I don’t respect women which is entirely incorrect .. the exact opposite in fact.

You demonstrably don't respect or even like women Zizu and it pours out of 90% of your post by the bucketload. In fact I'd place you somewhere closer to outright contempt. This isn't based on "mind reading" or any mystical skill beyond ... reading. Just simply reading your posts about women.

user104658 13-01-2025 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11598117)
She’s about as much use as all these women football pundits

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11598226)
isn’t as hot as she clearly thinks she is

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11598301)
a natural who doesn’t try too hard like all the others

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11598422)

I mute the commentary

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11598442)
unqualified woman punditry ..

...

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11598434)
You seem to think that I don’t respect women which is entirely incorrect ..

:skull: :joker:

Zizu 13-01-2025 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Quantum Boy (Post 11598860)
...



:skull: :joker:


Nice bit of careful selecting..

Interesting to note that you didn’t include the ones praising Sue Smith the one really good female pundit , tellingly … just the ones criticising the pitifully poor women ones ..

user104658 13-01-2025 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11598896)
Nice bit of careful selecting..

Interesting to note that you didn’t include the ones praising Sue Smith the one really good female pundit , tellingly … just the ones criticising the pitifully poor women ones ..

It doesn't "cancel out" or "go on balance" -- you make your contempt for women clear on a near-daily basis... it's not undone by saying "but these ones are OK I suppose".


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