Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11603852)

How do you mean? Like make people who aren't paedophiles into paedophiles? No, I would seriously doubt that

Originally Posted by Beso (Post 11603896)

Just look at these people involved in this case though.

Are we to believe all these people had paedophille thoughts before they all realised they were the same..or did some only realise once surrounded by the others involved.

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11603897)

Birds of a feather I guess, these kinds of people tend to gravitate towards each other

Originally Posted by Beso (Post 11603900)

But it's not really a discussion you would have though is it..

Hey. Hi. Are you a paedo? Yes, yes I am.

Ok do you mind if I hang out with you?


I mean, how on earth would you start that conversation.

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11603901)

I would imagine it starts out more subtlety than that

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11603901)

I would imagine it starts out more subtlety than that

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy (Post 11603810)

Not to bring things back to Tommy Robbo land, but it is worth pointing out that this gang will have been much larger than these individuals, there will be many of these gangs in Glasgow, and many more all across the UK. The issue, disgustingly, is RIFE - and while yes there is an issue in some towns specifically with Pakistani grooming gangs, focussing too heavily on that part of it has the side-effect of people mistakenly believing that it's "just those immigrant blokes from other cultures" who are the problem and the focus becomes only that ... ... distracting from the fact that most of these gangs are, at the very least, made up of all sorts of people. All races, all social classes. The profile of the gang will more likely align with the population of the area more than anything else - clear example here. It's Glasgow, and the gang members are (let's just be frank here) white junkies.

Always been part of my point really - I'd never argue that asian grooming gangs aren't a problem or shouldn't have been tackled sooner, it's just that it's the tip of a massive iceberg that has nothing to do with race issues. These gangs are everywhere. There is no clear "profile". That is the scandal... the scale of it is huge.

Originally Posted by Beso (Post 11603850)

Do you think it could be argued that the constant mentioning of paedophillia on the news in modern times and the avenues, such as gaming etc that offer an adult contact with a child may actually draw people towards it, who wouldn't have given it a 2nd thought without these prompts?

Originally Posted by Beso (Post 11603900)

But it's not really a discussion you would have though is it..

Hey. Hi. Are you a paedo? Yes, yes I am.

Ok do you mind if I hang out with you?


I mean, how on earth would you start that conversation.

Originally Posted by Beso (Post 11603900)

But it's not really a discussion you would have though is it..

Hey. Hi. Are you a paedo? Yes, yes I am.

Ok do you mind if I hang out with you?


I mean, how on earth would you start that conversation.

Originally Posted by bots (Post 11604087)

it's like how huw edwards, pete townsend and Gary glitter did it. Townsend got caught on the dark net "doing research" on child porn sites and so it goes on.

If you have an obsession with something, you find a way of satisfying that. That will lead you to groups of similarly thinking people, because they all have the same obsession

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11604059)

I do wonder how many Paedophiles are really out there in the world?

Because it feels like there's an awful lot that get caught by law enforcement, and normally the number is significantly higher for any criminal offense when you factor in the people that get away with it.

I know that I'm being hyperbolic when I say this, but it does feel like Paedophiles are everywhere in society.

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11603719)

Is there a woman in that picture?:shocked:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11604607)

Going back to your surprise there were women involved; they probably played a similar role to Ghillin Maxwell to Epstein, Amanda Palmer to Neil Gaiman, and god knows how many cases in Hollywood.


* allegedly, allegedly, wait for court outcomes, etc etc.

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11604681)

That would make sense tbf.

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11604607)

Going back to your surprise there were women involved; they probably played a similar role to Ghillin Maxwell to Epstein, Amanda Palmer to Neil Gaiman, and god knows how many cases in Hollywood.


* allegedly, allegedly, wait for court outcomes, etc etc.