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Beso 11-07-2025 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 11667575)
Oh so you don’t know then. Seems a little vague no? I couldn’t imagine voting a government in on terms like that.

Did you vote in Labour's false promises last time?

Mystic Mock 11-07-2025 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 11667565)
Had Sunak and Starmer had the best interests of the British people at heart there would be no need for Reform. Still the boats come, still the illegals come in ever increasing numbers and still we're spending billions on them. It cannot go on. People see that but no one else is addressing people's concerns and this is why Reform will win the next general election.

I get what you're saying Livia.

But Reform filling up with the very people that have caused a lot of the issues in this country isn't going to fix anything.

Livia 12-07-2025 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11667780)
I get what you're saying Livia.

But Reform filling up with the very people that have caused a lot of the issues in this country isn't going to fix anything.

You're imagining all Tories are the same. Some of them have watched their party eat itself from the inside, lying, doing things that were not for the benefit of the British people.They were loyal to the party while they were all but destroyed at the polls. I like to think those people have woken up to the fact that if someone doesn't start listening to the people and addressing their concerns about illegal migrants there will be civil war in this country.

Mystic Mock 12-07-2025 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 11667924)
You're imagining all Tories are the same. Some of them have watched their party eat itself from the inside, lying, doing things that were not for the benefit of the British people.They were loyal to the party while they were all but destroyed at the polls. I like to think those people have woken up to the fact that if someone doesn't start listening to the people and addressing their concerns about illegal migrants there will be civil war in this country.

I personally wouldn't take many current Tory members into my party if I were thinking about it from Reform's perspective.

They're a young party, and they should view the 15 years of Tory leadership as highly dangerous to their own reputation by putting any of them in their own party.

After all this is still the same people that were in charge of this country not so long ago, it would be different if it were years down the line.

Livia 12-07-2025 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11667943)
I personally wouldn't take many current Tory members into my party if I were thinking about it from Reform's perspective.

They're a young party, and they should view the 15 years of Tory leadership as highly dangerous to their own reputation by putting any of them in their own party.

After all this is still the same people that were in charge of this country not so long ago, it would be different if it were years down the line.

I worked for the Tories for years. I know they're not all the same but you want to damn them all as unsuitable? Reform policies are what Tory policies should be and those defecting are experienced politicians, I wouldn't damn them for previously being a Tory anymore than I'd ban a Labour politician who defected.

Liam- 12-07-2025 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11667943)
I personally wouldn't take many current Tory members into my party if I were thinking about it from Reform's perspective.

They're a young party, and they should view the 15 years of Tory leadership as highly dangerous to their own reputation by putting any of them in their own party.

After all this is still the same people that were in charge of this country not so long ago, it would be different if it were years down the line.

They’re not a new party though, it’s just the brexit party with a new name, with the same conman leader

Livia 12-07-2025 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11667948)
They’re not a new party though, it’s just the brexit party with a new name, with the same conman leader

That's more popular with the Great British Public than Labour and the Tories rolled together.


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