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Leon Jackson has nothing on Leona, she is by far a million times better then him, I wish him all the luck in the world, but he will never be as sucessful and sell millions of singles and Albums like Leona has.
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I agree with Morpheus {like always =|}
I think she has an incredible voice. I'm not gonna say the best, but she can defo sing. However, a lot of her songs are really dull and like Morpheus said, uninspired+cliche. I also think a lot of people are going against her because she doesn't write her own songs, which I'm sure she's perfectly capable of, and if she had, her album may not be so.. dry [IMO of course, no-one will agree with me but evs.] |
Agreed with Darenn and Morpheus really.
But she's still far more talented than these Reverend people. |
I think he’s right for the most part. She has a good voice but her songs are bland in my opinion. Still, there’s enough people who love her so I’m sure she’s not too bothered.
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I'd rather listen to Reverend and the Makers all day every day, than listen to Leona's CD a couple of times. |
Incidentally, record sales are rarely related to talent these days. There's loads of people having hit records who haven't got an ounce of talent, and there's so many genuinely talented acts around, who just can't get a break. Also, The Brit Awards are not a reflection of talent either.
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I feel like im falling into a parallel universe of argument paradoxes here :joker:. |
Hmm... but you did say the majority decides what talent is. The majority like acts like leona so by your own definition she should be the most talented singer in the country!
...I define talent as my own opinion and the opinion of other people with similar musical tastes. For example, as you already stated you don't believe record sales are a good indication of talent which probably means you like less commercial music. So your opinion regarding who is talented and who is not would probably be more valid to me than a leona fans idea of talent. |
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In closing - I would like to see Leonas shelf life. One thing can be said about talent and sales , but will we remember acts like Leona and the like in the same guise as we remember acts like The Beatles , Zeppelin and The Stones today? I doubt it. Its a very different kind of music. Pop like Leona has a shelf life these days and once its gone, its never to be remembered. |
I'll just say that the only person that ultimately decides who is talented and who isn't when I'm buying something is me and you won't catch me getting anything by leona!
But everyone has a different view of what talent is, it just so happens more agree that those brit awards winners are where the talent is than don't. And yes, my head hurts too... |
how can anyone say Leonas not talented?currently she has best voice in the charts.not to mention her songwriting and beauty.Bleeding Love is an amazing song song the sales are there to prove it.
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I could be wrong since I don't own the album, but everywhere I've looked doesn't credit her for many of the written, only like.. 2 or 3 tracks =| edit;; just checked online, she co-wrote two. |
Interesting discussion. I don't think talent is necessarily governed by what you do or don't like though. I mean, I admit that Leona has a fantastic voice, and I would class her as a talented singer, but I don't like her music.
And yes, I agree, people are allowed their own opinion. I love the Foo Fighters and Reverend and the Makers (for example), but a lot of people don't - it would be very boring if we all were the same. |
I agree with Ruth there.
I prefer Reverend And The Makers song 'He Said He Loved Me' to 'Bleeding Love', but I'm not denying her of her talent. |
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Good debate.
Talent is something that you know it when you see it. It cannot be easily defined and even though it is ultimately down to opinions, if someone was to say that Zinedine Zidane was NOT a talented footballer then just about everybody would agree that person didn't know what they were talking about. Sometimes it's clear for everybody to see. Leona is very talented. Her vocal range is probably upward of four or five octaves. Thats talent. That cannot be coached. She is blessed with that level of ability. I'd agree that her songs are not what could be described as pushing back the frontiers of music, but she will definitely find her own place in the market. Also, with Clive Davis as part of her management team she may well become a global superstar. |
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And just having a good voice isn’t good enough for me. She may be able to sing but I don’t like her style of singing at all or the songs themselves. So basically, I can understand why other people would like her, but it's just not my thing. |
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I dont like her music either but I have to concede she is able to do things with her voice that others will never be able to do. Thats talent. |
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