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dupin 21-02-2008 05:35 PM

Unfortunately, my opinion that fox hunting should be banned is rather unpopular in the Tory county that is Wiltshire, though there is a fair number of people who share my veiws as well.

As it appears, nationwide, most people want a ban, so there should be one.

Magic 21-02-2008 05:35 PM

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Originally posted by dupin
But does it make what you're doing anymore right because McDonalds kill animals too?
Of course not, but it stop's them dieing from disease, and controls the population. As I have seen fox's suffering from disease first hand, I think it's must better for the population to be controlled, and try to stop the spread of disease.

Magic 21-02-2008 05:36 PM

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Originally posted by dupin
Unfortunately, my opinion that fox hunting should be banned is rather unpopular in the Tory county that is Wiltshire, though there is a fair number of people who share my veiws as well.

As it appears, nationwide, most people want a ban, so there should be one.
I dont think their should be a ban it total, I think the law should no remain as it is.
I'm from somerset, so we are both close.

Jake! 21-02-2008 05:37 PM

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Originally posted by dupin
Unfortunately, my opinion that fox hunting should be banned is rather unpopular in the Tory county that is Wiltshire, though there is a fair number of people who share my veiws as well.

As it appears, nationwide, most people want a ban, so there should be one.
I just wanna ask you, want makes you feel that an animals right to life should be taken away for no reason?

dupin 21-02-2008 05:37 PM

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Originally posted by Magic
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Originally posted by dupin
But does it make what you're doing anymore right because McDonalds kill animals too?
Of course not, but it stop's them dieing from disease, and controls the population. As I have seen fox's suffering from disease first hand, I think it's must better for the population to be controlled, and try to stop the spread of disease.
Stop saying that. That's not why people fox hunt, it's naive to think you can tell people that and they'll all just believe that you're trying to do good.

Matt08 21-02-2008 05:37 PM

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Originally posted by Magic
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Originally posted by dupin
But does it make what you're doing anymore right because McDonalds kill animals too?
Of course not, but it stop's them dieing from disease, and controls the population. As I have seen fox's suffering from disease first hand, I think it's must better for the population to be controlled, and try to stop the spread of disease.
It's called NATURE and in my opinion it shouldn't be distrurbed. I would hate to be a fox and face being wripped apart by dogs because of a sport.

Matt10k 21-02-2008 05:38 PM

Why are you so concerned of foxes dying of disease? There are other animals that die of disease. Face it, people hunt foxes for sport and because it's traditional. Don't pretend you are providing some survice.

Jake! 21-02-2008 05:40 PM

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Why are you so concerned of foxes dying of disease? There are other animals that die of disease. Face it, people hunt foxes for sport and because it's traditional. Don't pretend you are providing some survice.
Tradition or not, it's wrong and mother nature will get her own back one of these days...

Magic 21-02-2008 05:40 PM

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Sure, farmers have to shoot the occasional fox that's sniffing around their chicken pens but lets be honest here... the upper class men on horses do it for the thrill of the hunt and because it's tradition and they believe it's their 'right'.
You are partly right, but since the ban came in to place its mainly farmers that do the hunting. I have had 10 of my chickens killed, and only one taken away to be eaten a few years back. I think its thing's like that, that encourage the majority of hunters since the ban.

Stu 21-02-2008 05:41 PM

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Originally posted by Magic
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Originally posted by dupin
But does it make what you're doing anymore right because McDonalds kill animals too?
Of course not, but it stop's them dieing from disease, and controls the population. As I have seen fox's suffering from disease first hand, I think it's must better for the population to be controlled, and try to stop the spread of disease.
What insane arguments. Do you think these rich toffs on horseback are hunting foxes for their love of community service or euthanasia? No! Its pleasure! Nothing more! A silly little sport for people with skin deep lives to play out back at the social club!

Controls the population? Your speaking of it as it were an epidemic of foxes threatening to overrun our countrysides. Stops them from dying of diseases? How? By having a beagle rip its face off?

Matt08 21-02-2008 05:41 PM

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Originally posted by Matt10k

Sure, farmers have to shoot the occasional fox that's sniffing around their chicken pens but lets be honest here... the upper class men on horses do it for the thrill of the hunt and because it's tradition and they believe it's their 'right'.
You are partly right, but since the ban came in to place its mainly farmers that do the hunting. I have had 10 of my chickens killed, and only one taken away to be eaten a few years back. I think its thing's like that, that encourage the majority of hunters since the ban.
You're partly to blame because if you keep chickens then you should make sure that the area that they're in is secure and fox-proof.

Jake! 21-02-2008 05:43 PM

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Originally posted by Magic
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Originally posted by dupin
But does it make what you're doing anymore right because McDonalds kill animals too?
Of course not, but it stop's them dieing from disease, and controls the population. As I have seen fox's suffering from disease first hand, I think it's must better for the population to be controlled, and try to stop the spread of disease.
What insane arguments. Do you think these rich toffs on horseback are hunting foxes for their love of community service or euthanasia? No! Its pleasure! Nothing more! A silly little sport for people with skin deep lives to play out back at the social club!

Controls the population? Your speaking of it as it were an epidemic of foxes threatening to overrun our countrysides. Stops them from dying of diseases? How? By having a beagle rip its face off?
Trust me if it was to do with a good thing then we wouldn't behaving this conversation right now!

Princess 21-02-2008 05:43 PM

Totally totally against it. Why should they be hunted? They're just as entitled to life as anyone else.

Magic 21-02-2008 05:43 PM

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Originally posted by Matt08
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Originally posted by Magic
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Originally posted by dupin
But does it make what you're doing anymore right because McDonalds kill animals too?
Of course not, but it stop's them dieing from disease, and controls the population. As I have seen fox's suffering from disease first hand, I think it's must better for the population to be controlled, and try to stop the spread of disease.
It's called NATURE and in my opinion it shouldn't be distrurbed. I would hate to be a fox and face being wripped apart by dogs because of a sport.
Just to update you a few years ago that was banned. Now foxes can only be shot.

Fox hunting has been going on for about 400 years, and the fox population is still strong today.

Ok, so I assume you live in a house. This house was once a field, home to many animals. If you are saying that nature shouldn't be disturbed, then a whole new argument is made.

Do you eat Organic Vegetables? Free range meat and Eggs?

Matt10k 21-02-2008 05:44 PM

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Originally posted by Magic
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Originally posted by Matt10k

Sure, farmers have to shoot the occasional fox that's sniffing around their chicken pens but lets be honest here... the upper class men on horses do it for the thrill of the hunt and because it's tradition and they believe it's their 'right'.
You are partly right, but since the ban came in to place its mainly farmers that do the hunting. I have had 10 of my chickens killed, and only one taken away to be eaten a few years back. I think its thing's like that, that encourage the majority of hunters since the ban.
Well then in that case the ban worked and is a good thing.

Magic 21-02-2008 05:45 PM

[quote]Originally posted by Matt08
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Originally posted by Magic

You're partly to blame because if you keep chickens then you should make sure that the area that they're in is secure and fox-proof.
But thats not nature :tongue:

Matt08 21-02-2008 05:48 PM

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Originally posted by Magic
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Originally posted by Matt08
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Originally posted by Magic
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Originally posted by dupin
But does it make what you're doing anymore right because McDonalds kill animals too?
Of course not, but it stop's them dieing from disease, and controls the population. As I have seen fox's suffering from disease first hand, I think it's must better for the population to be controlled, and try to stop the spread of disease.
It's called NATURE and in my opinion it shouldn't be distrurbed. I would hate to be a fox and face being wripped apart by dogs because of a sport.
Just to update you a few years ago that was banned. Now foxes can only be shot.

Fox hunting has been going on for about 400 years, and the fox population is still strong today.

Ok, so I assume you live in a house. This house was once a field, home to many animals. If you are saying that nature shouldn't be disturbed, then a whole new argument is made.

Do you eat Organic Vegetables? Free range meat and Eggs?
I know that it was banned a few years back, but I highly expect that farmers still fox hunt with the dogs and let the dogs wrip the fox apart.
There's a thing called green belt land in the countryside, so even if a house is built, there's usually plenty of land in the countryside where the poor sods can go and live.
I don't eat organic vegetables, because it's been proven that some organic food isn't actaully organic.
Although I do eat free range eggs, farmer's should ensure that the chickens are fairly safe from fox's without actually having to kill them.

Stu 21-02-2008 05:48 PM

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Originally posted by Princess
Totally totally against it. Why should they be hunted? They're just as entitled to life as anyone else.
Unless your a strict vegetarian , an argument as black and white as that will fall flat on its arse though.

Jake! 21-02-2008 05:49 PM

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Originally posted by Magic
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Originally posted by Matt08
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Originally posted by Magic
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Originally posted by dupin
But does it make what you're doing anymore right because McDonalds kill animals too?
Of course not, but it stop's them dieing from disease, and controls the population. As I have seen fox's suffering from disease first hand, I think it's must better for the population to be controlled, and try to stop the spread of disease.
It's called NATURE and in my opinion it shouldn't be distrurbed. I would hate to be a fox and face being wripped apart by dogs because of a sport.
Just to update you a few years ago that was banned. Now foxes can only be shot.

Fox hunting has been going on for about 400 years, and the fox population is still strong today.

Ok, so I assume you live in a house. This house was once a field, home to many animals. If you are saying that nature shouldn't be disturbed, then a whole new argument is made.

Do you eat Organic Vegetables? Free range meat and Eggs?
Erm, I'll answer your question. I eat my greens, and only get free-range because everything deserves the quality of life. Yes, where we live is where animals used to live, but back in those days human's didn't have the knowledge and technology we have today. And now we can't go back and change our history. But we can save today's animals...

Magic 21-02-2008 05:51 PM

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Originally posted by Morpheus
. Do you think these rich toffs on horseback are hunting foxes for their love of community service or euthanasia? No! Its pleasure! Nothing more! A silly little sport for people with skin deep lives to play out back at the social club!
That's really just a sterotype.

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Originally posted by Morpheus
Controls the population? Your speaking of it as it were an epidemic of foxes threatening to overrun our countrysides. Stops them from dying of diseases? How? By having a beagle rip its face off?
Controls the Population - Yes.
If the population wasn't controlled, then most would die of starvation in rural areas. That goes back to the food chain.

Stop them dieing of Disease - Yes
Back to the food chain, without the numbers controlled their immune system would be weaker, and they would be more liable to diesease and death.

Having a Beagle rip its face off - No
That was banned.

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As I mentioned earlier, I support this ban on hounds, as I think shooting is a more humane way of controlling the numbers.

Princess 21-02-2008 05:51 PM

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Totally totally against it. Why should they be hunted? They're just as entitled to life as anyone else.
Unless your a strict vegetarian , an argument as black and white as that will fall flat on its **** though.
I am a vegetarian.

dupin 21-02-2008 05:51 PM

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Originally posted by Magic
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Originally posted by Matt08
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Originally posted by Magic
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Originally posted by dupin
But does it make what you're doing anymore right because McDonalds kill animals too?
Of course not, but it stop's them dieing from disease, and controls the population. As I have seen fox's suffering from disease first hand, I think it's must better for the population to be controlled, and try to stop the spread of disease.
It's called NATURE and in my opinion it shouldn't be distrurbed. I would hate to be a fox and face being wripped apart by dogs because of a sport.
Just to update you a few years ago that was banned. Now foxes can only be shot.

Fox hunting has been going on for about 400 years, and the fox population is still strong today.

Ok, so I assume you live in a house. This house was once a field, home to many animals. If you are saying that nature shouldn't be disturbed, then a whole new argument is made.

Do you eat Organic Vegetables? Free range meat and Eggs?
So effectively, you're saying you have as much right to fox hunt as we do to live in our house? Ridiculous...

Matt10k 21-02-2008 05:53 PM

Magic- you seem very concerned about controlling the fox population and stopping them dying from disease. Is this really the only reason you hunt?

Why do you concentrate on foxes? All animals get disease and could be prone to overpopulating (though I haven't heard anything to suggest that foxes need culling for this reason). Do you have any evidence to back up this claim?

Magic 21-02-2008 05:54 PM

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Originally posted by Matt08

I know that it was banned a few years back, but I highly expect that farmers still fox hunt with the dogs and let the dogs wrip the fox apart.
Your right. As with all law's some people do try and get round it.

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Originally posted by Matt08
There's a thing called green belt land in the countryside, so even if a house is built, there's usually plenty of land in the countryside where the poor sods can go and live.
What poor sods?

Matt08 21-02-2008 05:56 PM

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Originally posted by Magic
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Originally posted by Matt08

I know that it was banned a few years back, but I highly expect that farmers still fox hunt with the dogs and let the dogs wrip the fox apart.
Your right. As with all law's some people do try and get round it.

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Originally posted by Matt08
There's a thing called green belt land in the countryside, so even if a house is built, there's usually plenty of land in the countryside where the poor sods can go and live.
What poor sods?
Poor sods= foxes


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