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headaball 12-06-2008 12:10 AM

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How were the girls degrading themselves though? So they wore something skimpy, big deal. A load of the guys, including Marios best bud Mikey wore a bunny outfit and I didn't hear Mario saying it was degrading then.
There seems to be different rules for men and women.

I could walk around that place in speedos 24/7 without any criticism, maybe a few "wows!" though. When a woman shows any flesh she must be a slag or she's degrading herself. Sad really, It's men that have the problem. I would have loved to have seen Jennifer shake her wee bum like them cheeky girls. I wouldn't have thought any worse of her.
It's pathetic that Mario thinks this way. I didn't think they were degrading themselves.

All Mario proved was that he clearly holds a grudge over something trivial and gets nasty about it with no consideration for the girls feelings.
I actually like Mario, during that wedding task i thought he was very game, ever since it was revealed about him and Lisa he's became a bit of a hemroid himself. I'd much rather he stayed than Steph though.

steveflashman 12-06-2008 12:10 AM

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Its getting tiresome really that Mario is playing the typical stereotype of a macho man.

He has said himself that he wants Lisa boobs bigger. I find him vile and vulgar and I hope that its him that goes on Friday. Maybe Lisa will be able to find herself and not be attached to his side
I'm totally agreeing with this and BUBBLES other posts...

I think LISA might find herself in the house without MARIO about.... Since anyone who hadn't forgotten who they used to be would have told him to stop being nasty to a 19 year-old kid who's just trying to be on the telly... And couldn't help it if she's not a good enough actress to pretend she fancies MARIO... Be honest, HELEN MIRREN isn't a good enough actress to convince us she fancies MARIO... And she's his age and really, really good!!!!!!!:whistle:

And HELEN MIRREN is really Italian as well.... NOT!!!!:devil:

Kore 12-06-2008 12:13 AM

Mario only said that because Jen said that he was degrading himself the other night!!!

Matt10k 12-06-2008 12:17 AM

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Mario only said that because Jen said that he was degrading himself the other night!!!
Maybe, as the older guy, he should have had a level of maturity and rose above it?

All this tit for tat crap he's getting involved in with Jen and Steph, he's 43 ffs! Would it have been so hard for him to just let it drop?

It won't do him any favours, it'll just make him more likely to get booted on friday...

LovelyL 12-06-2008 12:22 AM

He just doesnt like steph, its obvious. He also made chicken noises when she walked out the bedroom

Kore 12-06-2008 12:24 AM

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Mario only said that because Jen said that he was degrading himself the other night!!!
Maybe, as the older guy, he should have had a level of maturity and rose above it?

All this tit for tat c**p he's getting involved in with Jen and Steph, he's 43 ffs! Would it have been so hard for him to just let it drop?

It won't do him any favours, it'll just make him more likely to get booted on friday...
Why should he let others walk all over him. Theyre all adults...

its not as if jenn is a child. She's old enough to have a kid, shes old enough to take what she gives out IMO.

Matt10k 12-06-2008 12:30 AM

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Mario only said that because Jen said that he was degrading himself the other night!!!
Maybe, as the older guy, he should have had a level of maturity and rose above it?

All this tit for tat c**p he's getting involved in with Jen and Steph, he's 43 ffs! Would it have been so hard for him to just let it drop?

It won't do him any favours, it'll just make him more likely to get booted on friday...
Why should he let others walk all over him. Theyre all adults...

its not as if jenn is a child. She's old enough to have a kid, shes old enough to take what she gives out IMO.
She is hardly walking all over him. He'd look far better if he rose above it.

And him and Jen had obviously been ok since the stag do so for him to bring it up after that amount of time is pretty nasty.

I also agree he just dislikes steph and will go out of his way to try and argue with her. It's pretty funny that at 19, she still comes across as the more mature one in arguments when he resorts to his childish insults.

I've noticed steph will shout abuse back at him but only after he's started it, usually over something really petty.

Shaun 12-06-2008 12:32 AM

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And what on earth does that have to do with Mario?
Apart from her being his girlfriend, nothing, but then I never said it did.
If you'd "never said it did", you wouldn't have mentioned her. :]

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I fail to see how, other than bodybuilding, she's manly.
You answer your own question.
Oh hi there. Heard of equality? She also wears makeup, girly clothes, is emotional and compassionate; all feminine qualities. More girly than manly if you ask me.

Kore 12-06-2008 12:38 AM

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Why should he let others walk all over him. Theyre all adults...

its not as if jenn is a child. She's old enough to have a kid, shes old enough to take what she gives out IMO.
She is hardly walking all over him. He'd look far better if he rose above it.

And him and Jen had obviously been ok since the stag do so for him to bring it up after that amount of time is pretty nasty.

I also agree he just dislikes steph and will go out of his way to try and argue with her. It's pretty funny that at 19, she still comes across as the more mature one in arguments when he resorts to his childish insults.

I've noticed steph will shout abuse back at him but only after he's started it, usually over something really petty.
I totally disagree.. Jen started all this thing off a few days ago. Mario voiced his opinion when asked. (which he is entitled to do) and Steph turned round and had a go at him... Even though he was answering a question Jen asked..

He wasnt even talking to Steph but Steph butted in. Mario had the right to have a little go, because she was having a go at him first.

I like Mario because he says what he likes, not scared to voice his opinions. He doesnt let bitchy people walk all over him. This is where he is different to Alex. Alex just belittles people and never lets people talk in an argument while she talks absolute rubbish.

bringbackscience 12-06-2008 12:38 AM

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Oh hi there. Heard of equality? She also wears makeup, girly clothes, is emotional and compassionate; all feminine qualities. More girly than manly if you ask me.
She looks manly. It's no lie. It doesn't deminish her right to equality. It doesn't mean she isn't emotional or compassionate. It doesn't mean she doesn't where girly clothes or makeup. It means she's manly. She is manly.

Is there a PC in the house? Mario's real name is Shaun, right .....

Matt10k 12-06-2008 12:45 AM

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I totally disagree.. Jen started all this thing off a few days ago. Mario voiced his opinion when asked. (which he is entitled to do) and Steph turned round and had a go at him... Even though he was answering a question Jen asked..

He wasnt even talking to Steph but Steph butted in. Mario had the right to have a little go, because she was having a go at him first.

I like Mario because he says what he likes, not scared to voice his opinions. He doesnt let bitchy people walk all over him. This is where he is different to Alex. Alex just belittles people and never lets people talk in an argument while she talks absolute rubbish.
Of course, he is entitled to say anything he wants to Jen and Steph but he is making himself look like an arsehole who holds a grudge.

If only he was mature enough to put it behind him, regardless of ‘who started it’. Someone has to rise above it, otherwise when will it ever end? Now Jen will be annoyed with Mario and some argument will flair up again.

Matt10k 12-06-2008 12:51 AM

And what makes it even worse is Mario likes to think he’s some sort of big bad boss in the house, who holds meetings and tells everyone to play nice and remember ‘Mikey has a disability’- yet he’s allowed to say whatever he thinks about people he doesn’t like. The guy’s a hypocrite…

Kore 12-06-2008 01:04 AM

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Of course, he is entitled to say anything he wants to Jen and Steph but he is making himself look like an arsehole who holds a grudge.

If only he was mature enough to put it behind him, regardless of ‘who started it’. Someone has to rise above it, otherwise when will it ever end? Now Jen will be annoyed with Mario and some argument will flair up again.

And what makes it even worse is Mario likes to think he’s some sort of big bad boss in the house, who holds meetings and tells everyone to play nice and remember ‘Mikey has a disability’- yet he’s allowed to say whatever he thinks about people he doesn’t like. The guy’s a hypocrite…
Standing up for himself makes him look like an a**ehole? So Darnell Standing up for himself against Jen makes himself look like an a**ehole? and Steph standing up for herself against Alex makes herself look like an a**ehole? I dont think so.

At the end of the day if Mario left it there Jen and whoever would keep on having a go at him for no reason. Jen said that out of nowhere the other night. So technically its all her fault...

Big Bad boss? What after gathering the housemates and having a decent discussion unlike Alex who Shouts at everyone who tries to debate with her. At least mario gives people a chance to speak unlike Alex and some others.

I dont get it...... you say that anyone whos being nice to Mikey (like Mario is being) is a Bad person? a hypocrite?
I disagree once again.

Matt10k 12-06-2008 01:10 AM

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Of course, he is entitled to say anything he wants to Jen and Steph but he is making himself look like an arsehole who holds a grudge.

If only he was mature enough to put it behind him, regardless of ‘who started it’. Someone has to rise above it, otherwise when will it ever end? Now Jen will be annoyed with Mario and some argument will flair up again.

And what makes it even worse is Mario likes to think he’s some sort of big bad boss in the house, who holds meetings and tells everyone to play nice and remember ‘Mikey has a disability’- yet he’s allowed to say whatever he thinks about people he doesn’t like. The guy’s a hypocrite…
Standing up for himself makes him look like an a**ehole? So Darnell Standing up for himself against Jen makes himself look like an a**ehole? and Steph standing up for herself against Alex makes herself look like an a**ehole? I dont think so.

At the end of the day if Mario left it there Jen and whoever would keep on having a go at him for no reason. Jen said that out of nowhere the other night. So technically its all her fault...

Big Bad boss? What after gathering the housemates and having a decent discussion unlike Alex who Shouts at everyone who tries to debate with her. At least mario gives people a chance to speak unlike Alex and some others.

I dont get it...... you say that anyone whos being nice to Mikey (like Mario is being) is a Bad person? a hypocrite?
I disagree once again.
He wasn’t standing up for himself then though, she asked him how she looked and because he can’t let anything die, he was purposely rude. He knew it would cause an argument. So much for his ‘meeting’ about keeping the peace.

And it’s not about being nice to Mikey, he repeatedly tells everyone Mikey has a disability, he even uses Mikey in arguments that have nothing to do with him, like when he had a go at Steph because she snapped at him and he brought Mikey into it.

This also isn't about how bad Alex is. Yes Mario is better than her, but that isn't difficult.

Shaun 12-06-2008 01:13 AM

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Oh hi there. Heard of equality? She also wears makeup, girly clothes, is emotional and compassionate; all feminine qualities. More girly than manly if you ask me.
She looks manly. It's no lie. It doesn't deminish her right to equality. It doesn't mean she isn't emotional or compassionate. It doesn't mean she doesn't where girly clothes or makeup. It means she's manly. She is manly.

Is there a PC in the house? Mario's real name is Shaun, right .....
Well we'll have to agree to disagree then.

And yes it is. :shrug:

Kore 12-06-2008 01:32 AM

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He wasn’t standing up for himself then though, she asked him how she looked and because he can’t let anything die, he was purposely rude. He knew it would cause an argument. So much for his ‘meeting’ about keeping the peace.

And it’s not about being nice to Mikey, he repeatedly tells everyone Mikey has a disability, he even uses Mikey in arguments that have nothing to do with him, like when he had a go at Steph because she snapped at him and he brought Mikey into it.

This also isn't about how bad Alex is. Yes Mario is better than her, but that isn't difficult.
Of course he was standing up for himself.
You have your opinion on it and i have mine.

Personally i think he looks out for Mikey. Which shows what a genuine guy he is.

Personally i can see him going out on Friday. I hope its his missus though. You must admit that he's more entertaining than Lisa? surely??

Matt10k 12-06-2008 01:40 AM

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Of course he was standing up for himself.
You have your opinion on it and i have mine.

Personally i think he looks out for Mikey. Which shows what a genuine guy he is.

Personally i can see him going out on Friday. I hope its his missus though. You must admit that he's more entertaining than Lisa? surely??
I still don't think he needed to stand up for himself then, but let's agree to differ. I mean, really it’s as simple as, you like Mario and I don’t. We both have valid reasons, it just boils down to opinion.

I agree, it’ll probably be him going Friday, though it will be close with Steph. I don’t think there’s much chance of Lisa going. Since it seems it’s mainly between Mario and Steph, I’d prefer Mario to go.

realgm 12-06-2008 03:21 AM

these arguments r so entertaining :) macho macho mannn lol

Lauren 12-06-2008 05:45 AM

I'm certainly not Mario's biggest fan - he's very annoying.

However, your point is just searching for faults.

Steph asked him what he thought, and he thought it was degrading. Obviously Jennifer agreed, and he simply told the truth. He was hardly going to lie if she asked him.

Secondly, thats not hypocrisy. He was hardly going to be lying in a... t-shirt whilst his back was oiled up, was he? It was simply logistical that he was in his boxers.
Thirdly, Lisa is hardly manly looking - and if she is, you must be one hell of a feminine man.
Finally, Lisa wasn't even involved in the argument so surely the hypocrisy is on your head by involving her when it wasn't her argument. Needlessly attacking witnesses to the argument is hardly a way of validating your argument.

*mazedsalv** 12-06-2008 06:16 AM

I couldnt stand him in last nights HLs.

jamesh 12-06-2008 06:17 AM

btw what the hell is a hemroid?

Lauren 12-06-2008 06:50 AM

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btw what the hell is a hemroid?
Hemorrhoids are inflammation and swelling of veins in the rectum of the anus.

Niiiice.

Smeggypants 12-06-2008 07:01 AM

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Mario only said that because Jen said that he was degrading himself the other night!!!
Maybe, as the older guy, he should have had a level of maturity and rose above it?

All this tit for tat c**p he's getting involved in with Jen and Steph, he's 43 ffs! Would it have been so hard for him to just let it drop?

It won't do him any favours, it'll just make him more likely to get booted on friday...
Don't be so ageist. Maturity has nothing to do with age it's to do with behaviour.

In any case Mario's beef was with the fact that straight laced Jennifer moaned about wearing the bunny outfit to the wedding yet showed double standards by wearing the skimpy outfit for the 'got talent' pastime.

No one was degrading themselves.

fairymoon 12-06-2008 08:37 AM

so if steph and jen wore a bikini then that would be ok then, they only had on hot pants and a vest top nothing wrong in that, mario thinks he the daddy of the house calling meetings and picking on a 19 year old steph was sticking up for her and jen, and there was no need to call her a chicken

Lauren 12-06-2008 08:38 AM

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so if steph and jen wore a bikini then that would be ok then, they only had on hot pants and a vest top nothing wrong in that, mario thinks he the daddy of the house calling meetings and picking on a 19 year old steph was sticking up for her and jen, and there was no need to call her a chicken
Why did she ask for his opinion if she couldn't take it, though?


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