I think I've mentioned numerous times why Jen is partly to blame. Yes, it's true that Dale & Stuart barged in aggressively when it was completely uncalled for - after all, they went in at a point when everything had more or less calmed down. However, if Jen had actually advocated that point rather than crying even more and - almost putting on a show - I would have respected her far more. To add to that, she didn't even acknowledge the fact that Rex had apologised over his 'silly mistake' (his own words) several times. It got to the point where she was just repeating herself for the sake of it. I do think that the situation got to its extent because of underlying problems, and not solely for its trigger - i.e. the painting. But I do honestly think that the fact that this situation revolved around Jen means it got to its magnitude - if it had been the other way round, however, I doubt most of the house would have batted an eyelid. She certainly doesn't deserve the hate and nasty comments, I agree - especially because they're nothing to do with anything. But I thought I'd explain fully why her actions might be perceived the way they are.

On top of that, she seemed to be condoning Dennis' actions, as I think I've mentioned in another thread. Her 'justice will be served' comments post Dennis' ejection was completely unnecessary. If she were a nicer person, she'd have just comforted Sylvia and realised how awful the act itself was. Instead, her natural reaction was to become aggressive (something she accuses others of being, which is ironic considering all Dale & Stu were being was aggressive. She has real double standards). Also, later on in a conversation with Darnell she said that the only reason Mo was crying was because he was up for eviction. I wonder if she'd have sat there and thanked whoever spat on her for doing so?! Nobody deserves to have something like that done to them, especially not over something so trivial. Mo could have resorted to violence, thereby getting ejected too.

After having time to reflect on the situation, I think Jen realised that what Dennis did was truly wrong. I don't hate her so much for being a bitch - because there have been plenty of housemates like that, but it's just the entire way she chooses to deal with situations. I think the damage is done for most of the public, and it is too late to turn back - either fortunately or unfortunately - whichever way you choose to look at it.

I agree with most people in here. The biggest factor form me is the fact that Rex DID apologise ye she seemd to want more.

I stated in another thread that through out the history of BB arguments that involve the whole house never end well. This was no expception and the fact the whole house was involved was totally Jennifers fault. Rex was arrogant throughout the whole affair but he did apologise upfront. Jennifer didn't seem too concerned with actually resolving the issue she then procedded to tell the story over and over again until the whole house knew and were involved. It was attention seeking of the highest order and she should rightly pay in the eyes of the public. The reaction to her is probably justified.

The day after she was still acting up and kicking off while making little attempt to resolve the issue. She even had a go at Darnell in the b-block bedroom but Darnell handed her her hat twice in qucik sucsession. The clip they showed on Saturday was poorly edited this is a more succincnt of that at conversation

Darnell against Luke, Bex,Jen and Dale

This week nominations are going to be fascinating. Jen, Dale, and Stuart will almost certainly nominate Mo and Rex. Bex and Luke will probably nominate them too but with Sylvia and Dennis gone, her clique are potentially two votes down in terms of nominations, so the votes for Mario, Lisa, Mikey, Darnell, Kat and Rachel become very important. From what I've seen the Jen clique seem to be alienating Kat and rachel too. I can see the Team Bitch clique being busted wide open in the next few weeks if they keep on bitching and talking about people behind their backs. They will have only themselves to blame.

I think its wrong the hate towards jennifer yes she did go OTT on fight night but she did just sit there and cry she didnt attack anyone or tell anyone else to attack anyone the people who did kick off did so on their own not from jen's say-so

also about jen sayin "hope justice is served" to mo that was wrong of her to do that and jennifer did apologise to mohammad for saying it and he accepted

personally i think people HAVE to hate someone in the big bro house 1st alex then went onto sylvia now its jen and basically just for crying

Rex apologised, whilst he was laughing, obviously shes not gonna accept it.

And she hasn't condoned Dennis' actions Once. She said the day after, and the night it happened that Dennis shouldn't have spat.

How can you say that? I criticise her for bitching, and generally trying to stir things up in the house - not to mention abandoning her court case and her child so she could make a fool of herself on national TV. I would hardly paint myself with the same brush just because I dislike her.

But it was an apology, He made the gesture. The only reason for not accepting an apology is because she thought she could make him squirm by humiliating him. I'm sure if Jen had got her wish ie to humiliating Rex , then she's have been much more satisfied with the outcome. Fact is, she should have accepted the apology no matter how false it seemed. As far as I see it - if someone doesnt want peace then they must want war. I think that applies here. The section of the argument where Rex aplogised for I think the third time but Stu and Dale claimed it wasn't good enough shows they wanted more than apologies form Rex.

She has played down Dennis' actions on numerous occasions. The next day in the discussion with Darnell she claimed no spit left Denis mouth.

Indeed the hate campaign is well over the top....

Jenny did what any of us would do when sympathy comes pouring in. Yes you sap it up for all your worth...Human nature and not the act of some sort of demon.

For every year that passess more and more irrational behavour comes from the viewers rather than the housemates...

If someone is apologising whilst laughing they are basically laughing at them, and I for one wouldnt accept it.

Shes probably right about Dennis, we dont know if spit left his mouth or not.

geez! you cant changed it now!!!
she out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I dont think that is true at all Are you saying that everybody wants sympathy? I'd strongly disagree with that.

When there is an upset in ones life of course everyone that is upset will lap up sympathy....I have 67 years experience to vouch for that......

Jen is a normal lass. The hate campaigners are far from tolorent human beings. (They are far worse over reactors than Jen) You only have to look at our society of stabbings shooting etc to see where over the top reactions to trivial situations gets us all....

They both left their child while they went in Big Brother.

Yes, I really don't understand where it is all coming from. All she did was cried and over reacted a tad. Didn't Kat overeact abit last night? Is there all this hate for her-I think not.

I think it is very pathetic to the fact that it has got to personal insults because she overeacted to a situation. I am sure we have all done that before.

I have a theory that sympathy does very little good. Has sympathy ever found a genuine solution to a problem? Not in my life and my 31 years of problems. I dont think everybody milks sympathy as you think. You surely must think every has the same personality traits which is definitely not true.

Sympathy is a bit like a problem shared. The upset person does not feel alone. Does it do any good!!! You may be right in some cases it can be negative as in the case of Jen when she sapped up the sympathy and still ranted on at Rex as a result.....All I am saying is what happened is a natural reflex by Jen and not the actions of some monster which people are trying to make out.

Jen has other flaws of which she can be rightly critisised for. She is a manipulator of guys that's a fact and it's that that makes her an interesting housemate.....

I agree with you post.:thumbs:

This bit though. Its her manipulation of men thats going to get her booted out. She can only manipulate men because she has many of the traits valued by the superficial man. She's good looking, slim, she's a bit demure at times, she can be quite intimate and flirty at times but both men and women despise women like that. If she's up this week, I think she's gone by a huge margin and she only has herself to blame.

Most Jen observers seem to be disliking her because of her so called attention seeking from Rex argument. You are right she will or would be kicked out because of her manipulating skills. however she will be kicked out before we have milked the pleasures from watching the scheming unfold...This is not good for a good BB series......Premature ejections are never good...:bigsmile:

she very ott what a baby about that picture there was nothing wrong with it

She's just not very likeable when she is being a complete bitch over nothing and going off with two good looking guys that have no personalities. :nono:

yes she has always been to be honest. and i cant stand the girl, i want her out, shes a bloody hippocrit

I agree, Rex kicked this of when she told him not, then went ahead and did it, Dale after he saw what happened in the kitchel didn't like it, Stuart to me was pissed of with rex because he took the pee out of him by taking the mick about the pic. Jen's only crime was she over dramatisised the event. Dennis spat at Mo because he didn't like Mo anyway.

Imagine if it was the other way and Jennifer did something like that to Rex, even a apology wouldn't of made a difference. I agree rex apologised but it was the others who kept telling him apologise.

I tcould she wants do something like this before the kid grows ups, anyway I dont see Stu getting criticised for this?

I agree Billy. She is getting called all this rubbish - why? because she cried. Yes, she over-reacted but why is that so wrong. She has bitched, but so has every other housemate. She has confronted housemates when she has had problems with them (Rach/Mohamed/Rex) and yet she is made to look like the bad person.

Love her or hate her, she is entertaining to watch. A lot of the focus has been on her, so why is she going tonight? Especially when Rex has said he wants to go.