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MrGaryy 03-07-2008 11:12 PM

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Originally posted by AlexBigBrother
Im really confused with homosexuality, ive never understood it!
what age are u wen u realise you dont find women attractive?? surely just in your brain it is set to find the opposite sex attractive?
It's not very difficult to understand, lol. But just to help:

I began to realise when I was twelve. I had been called gay by the majority of my classmates by that time anyway. The reasons for this were 1. I didn't play soccer (Vile sport, I'd sooner kill myself) and 2.The majority of my friends were girls.

Also because I was about ten times more intelligent then them. (I'm not being snooty, we took an IQ test).

xDramatick 03-07-2008 11:12 PM

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Originally posted by DoubleTrouble
My teacher is gay. She's openly lesbian and i she knows Im BI. I tell her, she has huge Assembly's about . It does nothing. It goes on there record and stuff but yeah they just conitinue. I ignore them. I will continue too. What's a guy to do. Our head is a Lesbian to.
Good on you too.
Keep your head high and thing's will get better.
It is hard in school, but it does get easier.

Wow @ lesbian teachers.
We had three openly gay ones.

Tom 03-07-2008 11:12 PM

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Originally posted by Darenn
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Originally posted by AlexBigBrother
Im really confused with homosexuality, ive never understood it!
what age are u wen u realise you dont find women attractive?? surely just in your brain it is set to find the opposite sex attractive?
I believe I'm born gay.
I realized it properly at 12, but looking back, I was probably as young as 4/5.

There.. isn't really much to not understand.
I'm not entirely convinced about the nature argument. I did sexuality to death in psychology and there was some very overwhelming evidence in favour that suggests its nurture (upbringing) not nature.

Rex=Legend 03-07-2008 11:13 PM

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Originally posted by Gazbo
It's the homophobes that should be shot!

I hate the term gay as an adjective like, "ugh, those shoes are gay". I decked a guy before when I heard him say thats our maths book was gay. (I was having a bad day).

There are plenty of other words you can use. Sh*t, rubbish, vile, repulsive, horrific, mingin, disgusting, rank, rancid. Using the word gay only show that you have an extremly limited vocabulary.
Some would say cursing itself demonstrates a limited vocabulary , so I dont think you have a point :thumbs:.

'Gay' as a descriptive word for inanimate objects is just a meme that has set itself in the minds of the people so that they automaticaly believe in it without questioning it [See : Religion].

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Originally posted by AlexBigBrother
Im really confused with homosexuality, ive never understood it!
what age are u wen u realise you dont find women attractive?? surely just in your brain it is set to find the opposite sex attractive?
Who knows. Some people are born gay. Some people become gay. Get a straight person in a room a la Clockwork Orange and expose them to men and who knows , maybe they could turn gay.

Its pointless trying to figure out how the mind works. :thumbs:

AlexBigBrother 03-07-2008 11:15 PM

i get on better with girls than boys, that doesnt mean im gay!?!?

xDramatick 03-07-2008 11:16 PM

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Originally posted by Tom
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Originally posted by Darenn
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Originally posted by AlexBigBrother
Im really confused with homosexuality, ive never understood it!
what age are u wen u realise you dont find women attractive?? surely just in your brain it is set to find the opposite sex attractive?
I believe I'm born gay.
I realized it properly at 12, but looking back, I was probably as young as 4/5.

There.. isn't really much to not understand.
I'm not entirely convinced about the nature argument. I did sexuality to death in psychology and there was some very overwhelming evidence in favour that suggests its nurture (upbringing) not nature.
I agree that environment plays an important role in sexuality.

John Barrowman's[<3] doing a documentary on whether you're born gay or not, which should make interesting viewing.

Conzors 03-07-2008 11:16 PM

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Originally posted by Darenn
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Originally posted by DoubleTrouble
My teacher is gay. She's openly lesbian and i she knows Im BI. I tell her, she has huge Assembly's about . It does nothing. It goes on there record and stuff but yeah they just conitinue. I ignore them. I will continue too. What's a guy to do. Our head is a Lesbian to.
Good on you too.
Keep your head high and thing's will get better.
It is hard in school, but it does get easier.

Wow @ lesbian teachers.
We had three openly gay ones.
WOAH OMG.
Sorry TOTALLY OF SUBJECT - BUT DID THE LESBIANS GET IT ON?.

And DAREN OMG, GAY TEACHERS - GANG BANG?

Sorry, back on subject.

I dont get it as much as i used to.
And im not out.

MrGaryy 03-07-2008 11:17 PM

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Originally posted by Rex=Legend
Quote:

Originally posted by Gazbo
It's the homophobes that should be shot!

I hate the term gay as an adjective like, "ugh, those shoes are gay". I decked a guy before when I heard him say thats our maths book was gay. (I was having a bad day).

There are plenty of other words you can use. Sh*t, rubbish, vile, repulsive, horrific, mingin, disgusting, rank, rancid. Using the word gay only show that you have an extremly limited vocabulary.
Some would say cursing itself demonstrates a limited vocabulary , so I dont think you have a point :thumbs:.

'Gay' as a descriptive word for inanimate objects is just a meme that has set itself in the minds of the people so that they automaticaly believe in it without questioning it [See : Religion].

Quote:

Originally posted by AlexBigBrother
Im really confused with homosexuality, ive never understood it!
what age are u wen u realise you dont find women attractive?? surely just in your brain it is set to find the opposite sex attractive?
Who knows. Some people are born gay. Some people become gay. Get a straight person in a room a la Clockwork Orange and expose them to men and who knows , maybe they could turn gay.

Its pointless trying to figure out how the mind works. :thumbs:
Bear in mind I was listing words that someone who is likely is resort to using gay would perhaps be more open to.

xDramatick 03-07-2008 11:17 PM

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Originally posted by AlexBigBrother
i get on better with girls than boys, that doesnt mean Im gay!?!?
Nobody said it did.
It's just often presumed that guys that have a lot of female friends are gay.
Obviously that's one of many stereotypical characteristics.

My boyfriend's VERY straight acting.
If you met him, you'd think he's straight.

Rex=Legend 03-07-2008 11:18 PM

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Originally posted by Tom
Controversial opinion here but I support homophobia in a way. Some people find it to be immoral because of the religion and the bible, and some religious people can't change their views. I'm semi religious and believe in certain things, but some people are sort of contradictory (myself included) who say that its immoral to be gay, yet they're the ones having sex before marriage and arguing with people etc. But the most hated family in America just take it to extremes. Theres beliefs (and whether agreed with by the majority or not people are entitled to them) but then theres just sickening and an embarrassment to an entire religion.

However, I can see both sides and I don't see the point in it. It doesn't affect me in any way so who am I to judge who other people want to jump into bed with? Men can sleep with other men, and I won't be sleeping with other men but still why do I have the right to condemn someone else for it, because its clearly not going to affect me?

Anyway my opinions split on it, do I go from the Christian point of view but then contradict myself for other aspects of my own life or do I view it from the "I couldn't give two sh*ts what other people get up to" perspective yet go against God? Its OK for complete atheists to say "God isn't real, follow your heart" etc but its just not that simple when you're in a religious frame of mind.
Religion complicates itself. Your bound to contradict yourself and end up as a sinner even for being homophobic , the way everything in religion overlaps itself.

Why bother with teachings? Jesus was a man who absoloutely existed , and its safe to say he was down with ALL the peeps in the hood. In fact , he was hundreds of years ahead of his time with all the turn the other cheek stuff. Just keep it simple.

Screw the old testament. If your going to be homophobic due in part to Christianity , your going to have to be mysoginist and racist too [its all in 'the good book'].

xDramatick 03-07-2008 11:18 PM

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Originally posted by Conzors
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Originally posted by Darenn
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Originally posted by DoubleTrouble
My teacher is gay. She's openly lesbian and i she knows Im BI. I tell her, she has huge Assembly's about . It does nothing. It goes on there record and stuff but yeah they just conitinue. I ignore them. I will continue too. What's a guy to do. Our head is a Lesbian to.
Good on you too.
Keep your head high and thing's will get better.
It is hard in school, but it does get easier.

Wow @ lesbian teachers.
We had three openly gay ones.
WOAH OMG.
Sorry TOTALLY OF SUBJECT - BUT DID THE LESBIANS GET IT ON?.

And DAREN OMG, GAY TEACHERS - GANG BANG?
Just because there's multiple gay people in one environment, it doesn't mean they're gonna get it on ;D

Shaun 03-07-2008 11:19 PM

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Originally posted by Tom
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Originally posted by Darenn
Quote:

Originally posted by AlexBigBrother
Im really confused with homosexuality, ive never understood it!
what age are u wen u realise you dont find women attractive?? surely just in your brain it is set to find the opposite sex attractive?
I believe I'm born gay.
I realized it properly at 12, but looking back, I was probably as young as 4/5.

There.. isn't really much to not understand.
I'm not entirely convinced about the nature argument. I did sexuality to death in psychology and there was some very overwhelming evidence in favour that suggests its nurture (upbringing) not nature.
Either way, there's no conscious choice or decision to "be gay".

MrGaryy 03-07-2008 11:19 PM

I think it's not a case that I get on with girls it's more that I don't get on with boys.

From experience, boys immediatly hate me. I don't know why but they do. That's fine, I've come to terms with that.

Rex=Legend 03-07-2008 11:21 PM

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Originally posted by Darenn
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Originally posted by Conzors
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Originally posted by Darenn
Quote:

Originally posted by DoubleTrouble
My teacher is gay. She's openly lesbian and i she knows Im BI. I tell her, she has huge Assembly's about . It does nothing. It goes on there record and stuff but yeah they just conitinue. I ignore them. I will continue too. What's a guy to do. Our head is a Lesbian to.
Good on you too.
Keep your head high and thing's will get better.
It is hard in school, but it does get easier.

Wow @ lesbian teachers.
We had three openly gay ones.
WOAH OMG.
Sorry TOTALLY OF SUBJECT - BUT DID THE LESBIANS GET IT ON?.

And DAREN OMG, GAY TEACHERS - GANG BANG?
Just because there's multiple gay people in one environment, it doesn't mean they're going to get it on ;D
Oh come on , you know we are wilder than most. :joker:


Come to think of it , I have straight friends who love to go to the gay clubs with me , simply cause the party is better [and the free amyl nitrate helps I suppose].

AlexBigBrother 03-07-2008 11:21 PM

see this is my religious argument

i consider myself a christian and in the old testament it talks about the importance of procreation, yet throughout the bible the message is clear about loving everyone around you and treating everyone as equals, thats why i dont fell offended by homosexuality, even if i dont quite get it

Loukas 03-07-2008 11:21 PM

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Originally posted by Darenn
Quote:

Originally posted by DoubleTrouble
My teacher is gay. She's openly lesbian and i she knows Im BI. I tell her, she has huge Assembly's about . It does nothing. It goes on there record and stuff but yeah they just conitinue. I ignore them. I will continue too. What's a guy to do. Our head is a Lesbian to.
Good on you too.
Keep your head high and thing's will get better.
It is hard in school, but it does get easier.

Wow @ lesbian teachers.
We had three openly gay ones.
We also have 3 BI teachers and 1 Gay teacher. I love school tho, i'm quite known, girls tell me i get picked on because i get hugs and kisses from them and the boys get jellous. On the plus side if people calls me gay, the girls will kill them! :). Thanks everyone for there replys.

What really p***** me off is boys come up to me and go "Loukas, how you get all the girls man?!" If you show them some b***** respect they might give some back!! FFS boys can be so dumb. XD

Tom 03-07-2008 11:22 PM

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Originally posted by Rex=Legend
Quote:

Originally posted by Tom
Controversial opinion here but I support homophobia in a way. Some people find it to be immoral because of the religion and the bible, and some religious people can't change their views. I'm semi religious and believe in certain things, but some people are sort of contradictory (myself included) who say that its immoral to be gay, yet they're the ones having sex before marriage and arguing with people etc. But the most hated family in America just take it to extremes. Theres beliefs (and whether agreed with by the majority or not people are entitled to them) but then theres just sickening and an embarrassment to an entire religion.

However, I can see both sides and I don't see the point in it. It doesn't affect me in any way so who am I to judge who other people want to jump into bed with? Men can sleep with other men, and I won't be sleeping with other men but still why do I have the right to condemn someone else for it, because its clearly not going to affect me?

Anyway my opinions split on it, do I go from the Christian point of view but then contradict myself for other aspects of my own life or do I view it from the "I couldn't give two sh*ts what other people get up to" perspective yet go against God? Its OK for complete atheists to say "God isn't real, follow your heart" etc but its just not that simple when you're in a religious frame of mind.
Religion complicates itself. Your bound to contradict yourself and end up as a sinner even for being homophobic , the way everything in religion overlaps itself.

Why bother with teachings? Jesus was a man who absoloutely existed , and its safe to say he was down with ALL the peeps in the hood. In fact , he was hundreds of years ahead of his time with all the turn the other cheek stuff.

Screw the old testament. If your going to be homophobic due in part to Christianity , your going to have to be mysoginist and racist too [its all in 'the good book'].
Thats exactly why I'm split. Its full of contradictions and the way in which the 21st century life is lead leads to more contradiction and double standards, and the mentality that its fine to follow one rule but not another. Those who are homophobic and put it down to religion should read through the entire Bible and ensure they're following every rule and have never sinned before condemning other people.

Rex=Legend 03-07-2008 11:23 PM

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Originally posted by AlexBigBrother
the importance of procreation,
And yet Catholic priests cant have sex :rolleyes:.

See how religion just pointlessly contradicts itself over and over?

Just keep it simple. Love everyone. Peace. If theirs a god , thats what he wants. Thats my religion , summed up in a few short words , and its the best damn religion their is :thumbs:.

xDramatick 03-07-2008 11:23 PM

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Originally posted by Rex=Legend
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Originally posted by Darenn
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Originally posted by Conzors
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Originally posted by Darenn
Quote:

Originally posted by DoubleTrouble
My teacher is gay. She's openly lesbian and i she knows Im BI. I tell her, she has huge Assembly's about . It does nothing. It goes on there record and stuff but yeah they just conitinue. I ignore them. I will continue too. What's a guy to do. Our head is a Lesbian to.
Good on you too.
Keep your head high and thing's will get better.
It is hard in school, but it does get easier.

Wow @ lesbian teachers.
We had three openly gay ones.
WOAH OMG.
Sorry TOTALLY OF SUBJECT - BUT DID THE LESBIANS GET IT ON?.

And DAREN OMG, GAY TEACHERS - GANG BANG?
Just because there's multiple gay people in one environment, it doesn't mean they're going to get it on ;D
Oh come on , you know we are wilder than most. :joker:


Come to think of it , I have straight friends who love to go to the gay clubs with me , simply cause the party is better [and the free amyl nitrate helps I suppose].
LMFAO.
yeah, I've got straight friends whom I've kissed and stuff.
Hell, I've got three coming Pride with me Saturday.
&they're dressing up.

On the other hand; I couldn't deal with being in a relationship with a confused male.
I've been there, done that.
&It sounds cruel but as much as I tried to help him out, I regret it.
He led me on and my emotions were taken on a complete rollercoaster.
So I tend to stay away from confused/indenial people.

Rex=Legend 03-07-2008 11:24 PM

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Originally posted by Tom
Quote:

Originally posted by Rex=Legend
Quote:

Originally posted by Tom
Controversial opinion here but I support homophobia in a way. Some people find it to be immoral because of the religion and the bible, and some religious people can't change their views. I'm semi religious and believe in certain things, but some people are sort of contradictory (myself included) who say that its immoral to be gay, yet they're the ones having sex before marriage and arguing with people etc. But the most hated family in America just take it to extremes. Theres beliefs (and whether agreed with by the majority or not people are entitled to them) but then theres just sickening and an embarrassment to an entire religion.

However, I can see both sides and I don't see the point in it. It doesn't affect me in any way so who am I to judge who other people want to jump into bed with? Men can sleep with other men, and I won't be sleeping with other men but still why do I have the right to condemn someone else for it, because its clearly not going to affect me?

Anyway my opinions split on it, do I go from the Christian point of view but then contradict myself for other aspects of my own life or do I view it from the "I couldn't give two sh*ts what other people get up to" perspective yet go against God? Its OK for complete atheists to say "God isn't real, follow your heart" etc but its just not that simple when you're in a religious frame of mind.
Religion complicates itself. Your bound to contradict yourself and end up as a sinner even for being homophobic , the way everything in religion overlaps itself.

Why bother with teachings? Jesus was a man who absoloutely existed , and its safe to say he was down with ALL the peeps in the hood. In fact , he was hundreds of years ahead of his time with all the turn the other cheek stuff.

Screw the old testament. If your going to be homophobic due in part to Christianity , your going to have to be mysoginist and racist too [its all in 'the good book'].
Thats exactly why I'm split. Its full of contradictions and the way in which the 21st century life is lead leads to more contradiction and double standards, and the mentality that its fine to follow one rule but not another. Those who are homophobic and put it down to religion should read through the entire Bible and ensure they're following every rule and have never sinned before condemning other people.
You can just never win with Religion :joker: . Read my last post I made immediatly beneath yours.

Rocko 03-07-2008 11:25 PM

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Originally posted by AlexBigBrother
i get on better with girls than boys, that doesnt mean Im gay!?!?
No.

Wanting to sleep with guys instead of girls does.

But again with the labels...:spin2:

Tom 03-07-2008 11:26 PM

Oh but one thing that really annoys me. Imagine the setting in the changing rooms after PE.

Narrow minded person: "Eww, I'm not getting undressed in front of him, he might want to bum me. Watch your backs everyone".

I just feel like saying well youre full of yourself aren't you? Not all straight lads want to jump into bed with every girl they see so either I'm missing something or I'm right in saying gay people are exactly the same, and the generalisation that all gay men fancy all other men is just silly and quite frankly bizarre.

LemonJam 03-07-2008 11:28 PM

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Originally posted by Tom
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Originally posted by Darenn
Quote:

Originally posted by AlexBigBrother
Im really confused with homosexuality, ive never understood it!
what age are u wen u realise you dont find women attractive?? surely just in your brain it is set to find the opposite sex attractive?
I believe I'm born gay.
I realized it properly at 12, but looking back, I was probably as young as 4/5.

There.. isn't really much to not understand.
I'm not entirely convinced about the nature argument. I did sexuality to death in psychology and there was some very overwhelming evidence in favour that suggests its nurture (upbringing) not nature.
I think its nurture, I have a bad relationship with my father and a great one with my mother who's interests include fashion. My sister forced me to play with dolls with her as well (More feminine things) However, I had alot of male friends and had an interest in go-karting and video games (more masculine things) and I turned out bi. So from personal experiance, I think its nurture definatley. :bigsmile:

xDramatick 03-07-2008 11:29 PM

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Originally posted by Tom
Oh but one thing that really annoys me. Imagine the setting in the changing rooms after PE.

Narrow minded person: "Eww, I'm not getting undressed in front of him, he might want to bum me. Watch your backs everyone".

I just feel like saying well youre full of yourself aren't you? Not all straight lads want to jump into bed with every girl they see so either I'm missing something or I'm right in saying gay people are exactly the same, and the generalisation that all gay men fancy all other men is just silly and quite frankly bizarre.
I HATE that generalization.

Trust me, I've heard that from some seriously unattractive guys.
&It's like please. don't flatter yourself. I have standards.

On a more serious note; It is stupid.

Rex=Legend 03-07-2008 11:30 PM

Since everyone else is giving their story , I might as well give mine.

...three or four years ago , I became obsessed with a man named Ville Valo [Google image him].























...err yeah , thats about it. Ive been gay since then. Go figure :joker:.


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