Some people must turn everything (like Angie's golliwog story) into a racism debate. Nothing can ever be taken lighthearted without being observed to the letter, which I find ridiculous.

Yes, racism is alive and well, but for people (or someone...) to turn a story into a debate about the racist undertones of the doll? Seriously.

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I think you just earned yourself another vote tomorrow Rory.....:whistle:

Please don't, Angie, you're so interesting and a real highlight on this forum :(

:laugh: Thank you, although I was/still am going to give you a nom for standing up in the thread! I don't think that such an innocent story should result in such abuse, seriously. They should just take it for face value, and for what it was meant to be intentionally.

I agree - Angiebabes humorous story was not meant to offend anyone, but England has got so PC it's ridiculous.

Angie. As I guess i am now on your ignore list I am probably wasting my time.

I am very surprised by your reaction. First off I did not turn it into a race argument. I only joined in to counter what others were saying how PC had gone mad. I did not even comment on Golliwogs. I never said I was offended by them as you have suggested. You have just guessed rather than asking. I believe you berated Sticks for doing just that.

At no point have I tried to bring you down. Unless you think disagreeing is bringing people down.

"but the fact it supposedly offended 2 white people does really begger belief."

On a number of occasions you have said that all races can be racist. Not just white. I whole heartedly agree. But you seem to be saying that as I am white I can't have an opinion on race and if I do it is invalid. In that case the white people who agreed with you are making invalid points. Can only black people have a view on race?

If you were walking down the road and you saw someone racially abusing an Asian person are you saying you would not have an opinion? After all, you are black, not Asian.

Chewy. On my avi. It is something I made for an anti Nazi site I was involved with. Take an evil person who is a hero to some and take the piss out of him. look at cartoons from the time of WW2. They did exactly the same thing. Britain has a long and proud tradition of doing this. Angie is well aware of this and did not have a problem in the past when she found out what it was about. it is a shame she has changed her view to fit her argument.

You've thrown out an awful lot of insults aimed at me yet I've never insulted you in any thread. Do you not think the points I've made are not valid? So why put me on ignore?

I thought your reaction to Sticks valid point that a Gollywog could be considered racist was way over the top. I didn't enter the thread for any other reason that to make the point that just because you don't find something offensive it doesn't mean that it isn't. Instead of addressing that you'd rather throw out veiled insults directed at me.

I also resent the implication that I'm having fun discussing the issue of race an issue that is close to my heart. What kind of fun do you think I'm having?

I'm not going to apologise as I have nothing to apologise for. My points were valid and true. If you want to have a discussion about them then I'm up for that but if you simply want to ignore me and throw out insults then that's up to you.