Some people can't?
I certainly can't.

A week or so ago, I wrote a list of albums I want, and there's about 63 I want. No exaggeration.
I like a WIDE range of music, all styles, some chart, most not.
There's NO way I can afford to buy them all.
I/My parents probably can't afford to even get half of them before Xmas.
Bearing in mind also, some of the albums are JPop, and a lot are American, so that'd be an extra cost for paying for the shipping/order.
A lot of the bands/artists I like I never see in HMV, or most music stores.

I can't get an itunes account because my parents refuse to put their details anywhere on the net, and they wouldn't buy me vouchers either to get round this.

What am I meant to do?
If I can afford the CD, and it's one that I'd put priority, then I'd more than likely get it, but I don't get CDs that often because I need other things more.
I do prefer to have the CD as I like having the case+stuff.
But then again, it clutters up my rather small bedroom.

Therefore the only alternative I have is to download online, free.
I always delete the tracks from my computer after they've been put on my ipod, but that's mainly because of memory issues on my computer.
Limewire's always a last resort. I hate the thing.
I'll do a google blog search for the song/album first, then check SIN [A music download forum], ask my mates, and if I then can't find a torrent for it, I'll go for Limewire.
If I'm honest, most of my music has come from mediafire/zshare/blogs, which is obviously not anymore legal but I do try to avoid Limewire, even for torrents.

I even swap music with my mates. You should see the size of some of my sharing folders. It's practically a music library. That's our way of obtaining music without having to pay full prices. We'll buy CDs then trade them on MSN.
I'll continue to use blogs, hosts, SIN, friends, and the occasional torrent until I'm sent a warning letter.

&that is what's wrong with paying.

lol Darenn

In Canada, you can't rip CD's into your iPod. The iTunes store is very limited, no movies and most of the songs I like aren't there. I always download. I think theres too many people doing it to get everyone. In my country, uploaders are the main target.

Oh yeah, Limewire is loaded with viruses. :yuk:

I never get viruses with Limewire.

I have Limewire PRO.

You guys, it's not just a case of "If we get caught, stop, if not keep going." Would you murder someone if you knew you wouldn't get caught? What about rape? I know these are far more serious crimes but the fact of the matter is that stealing is unethical, whether there's a "three strikes" rule or not.

I am proud to say that I have never stolen a single song.

Downloading and watching videos on youtube are pretty much the same.

I downloaded Limewire pro of Limewire lol

But I never bother with it much any more. Its easier and quicker to rip the music of Youtube.

So then, you walk into a music store, and you notice something - no security cameras, no security guards, no sensors, and the cashier is reading a magazine! You go behind one shelf and no one can see you. You have total privacy. You see a CD that should be $15 but at $30 it's way overpriced. So, that justifies stealing it, right?

This is essentially what you are saying when you say it's okay to steal music because "there's no way they'd be able to catch you" or "it costs too much anyway."

I will never stop, I will continue to do so until I get a warning.
I can't afford the amount of music I downloaded at all. Therefore I have to use Torrents, Limewire etc..
I do have a itunes account and if there are songs which I can't find anywhere to downloaded and are on itunes I will use Itunes to but the song, but thats only rarely.

The only time I download a movie is if I've seen it in the cinema - so therefore I feel as if I've payed for that movie. I would never download a newly released film that I haven't watched/feel as if I've payed for.

I download music too but not on Limewire. And I download TV episodes because I'm not waiting 6 months for the UK to get a grip and start airing new episodes of shows I could have easily have accessed all those months ago. If they have a problem with people downloading TV shows - then maybe they should listen in and start airing shows sooner rather than later. I've noticed BBC2 is doing it now with Heroes.

Erm, if you CAN'T AFFORD something, DON'T BUY IT. If you couldn't afford the clothes at Neiman Marcus, that wouldn't justify going in and stealing them.

If you can't afford the amount of music you download, you shouldn't be downloading that much music.

How can you compare rape and murder to using Limewire?

I rarely download music, not cos I'm against it, I just preder and get the CD, I'm not often strapped for cash anyway so I'm lucky in that respect. I do download TV shows because I hate having to wait months for the UK to get it. Although if I can, I just use STC instead.

I mainly use iTunes but if there is a song, I want before it's released or I have bought loads of songs recently then I will download it.

i download music all time using Torrentz... but when I'm satisfied with the album i'll buy the CD of it...
but yeah i also download Tv shows coz i don't want to wait till they got showed here in UK.
but in the case of movies I always watch them on cinemas or buy dvds.

There two totally different scenarios. The only similarity is both times music has been stolen. Nothing more.

Right. Both times music has been stolen. That's exactly my point.

You can't compare it to murder.
People illegally download, get over it. They aren't hurting anyone, just the record companies and stores who make lots of money anyway aren't getting as much.

I have always downloaded music, and will never stop, i don't see it as wrong, if theres an album with only one song on that you like, why buy it ? if there's no single for it, i say **** it, i download music and movies, and just for the record, you get letters if you are sharing music through limewire. Well, that's what happened to my friend, i only download songs i really like or want to try, i usually listen to them through youtube, i don't care that it's illegal, i don't see it as wrong, and i definitley wouldn't compare it to murder or rape, i download movie's too, if i've watched them online first and like them. Simple as, i'm not going to stop any time soon, i've done it for years.

For those who say they cant afford cd have you checked out amazon you can get some good cds for bargin prices (espicilly cd from the 90s)the even have some cd single for like 1 dollar (not including) shiping

No single for it? Ever heard of iTunes?

why should i ? that then benefits the very wealthy artist, when i have the option of downloading for free.

Get off him, not everyone is an angel.

Wait so you support the artist but refuse to give them money? How cheeky is that? If it wasnt for these "Wealthy artists" you would have no music so stop complaining.
I do download it for free atm. But I know as soon as I have a job I will buy music. I prefer physical copies for one and for two, you cannot get as good quality as an Itunes download or as a CD. Its nice to be able to download music.
As a student the last thing I want to have to buy is music when I can get it free. When I have spare money lying about I will do.

Some people can't get an itunes account.
I can't.
My parents refuse to use their credit card details anywhere on the internet.
&they won't buy me vouchers because that's too much money.

I'm not complaining, i download music because i am a 15 year old at school :puzzled: where do i get the money to buy music and such. I'll download music until i can't anymore, so there you go. No one's perfect :tongue: