Sleepwalking into a islamic state... Same thing happend to the romans with the christians. Would it be a bad thing?

Sleep walking into any control freak religious instituion is certainly a bad thing......

The saudi's are pumping alot of money into islamic schools across the world... More so the middle east and western europe, and its their islam which is very controling...
But not all muslims are the same and some areas in the middle east and eastern europe they are against the saudi version islam, and even women can prey with the men but like i said thats only some areas.

Wacky PC councils and government think tanks should hang their heads in shame with idea's they come up with and force upon us... The problem is that they think their doing us good but all it does is cause more problems for muslims and non muslims.

It's not just islamic. All religions with their control freak institutions and man made rules and dogma are a danger to a free society......

Children get groomed into what ever faith there parents may be addicted to......Then when they are adults they spread the same muck on to their children and so the maddness goes on generation after generation.........

Thats true! Very true and christian money is being put into some schools with the blessing of our government. That leads them having more control of young minds. They have a say with the history and science lessons in the schools.... Ask some which is true, science or god... Many will pick god because thats what they know and another factor that many use.... Fear!
Same thing happens in the middle east and more so in gaza, land of the philistines. Anti-jewish lessons.

There was a program on tv recently about christian fundamentalism. The creeps were teaching very young children that the world was made by god in seven days.......The thing is it was not religious teaching it was classified as science.......They should be thrown in jail for grooming children with false rubbish......

Bush/Blair.Both have religious mania now look what we have in iraq as a result of the delusional minds of religious leaders...

I thought iraq was the idea of the neo-cons?
Yeah its true and these kids are being brainwashed non stop... The bible belt springs to mind. Even science in our schools are falling...

Actually I get a seafood pizza rather than fish and chips from him usually. (Some times it is Chicken and Chips)

I think he opens mainly in the evening, if so he is definitely after the Iftar meal.

Anyhue, there people, and those at Chicken Cottage, the Halal version of KFC were not the ones calling for this AFAIK But I will be looking out for Chicken Cottage.

Still not sure if I should make my sandwiches up tomorrow :rolleyes:

Preferably forever:wavey:

The same way you wouldn't eat meat in front of a vegetarian. It's just a sign of respect for the Muslims' religion. To eat in front of a Muslim during fasting would be extremely rude and inconsiderate, in my opinion. Simply waiting a couple hours to eat can make a huge difference. If your religion required fasting you wouldn't want others eating right in your face, so there's no reason why you shouldn't give that same respect to Muslims.

I cannot agree with that in any shape or form...Of course it is not being disrespectfull to eat meat in front of a vegetarian....

My cousin used to be vegiterian and had no objections as to what other people wanted to eat infront of her.

The principle is no one should use there personal belief to make some one else feel guilty enough to pander to a belief one does not have..

The muslim eating habits are there problem and there problem alone and should not spill over into any others beliefs..
Same applies to vegitarians or any group that has a specific belief......

All should accept each others beliefs but under no circumstances should pander to each persons belief that goes against your own......

In other words if food fasting individual chooses to eat with those that are not fasting then they should respect the right of the none fasting individual to behave as per normal for them just as the fasting person is behaving normal for them.....

It's not a question of respect it is a question of living your life and not allowing the social or religious habits of others to intimidate how you live your life.....

Totally agree. And I'm a vegetarian.

That's disgusting because if it was the other way round there would be outrage, God, I hate this country lmao

Just don't get caught cottaging...

I have U2'd Fahad to come over and visit the thread, but so far no sign of him.

Chicken cottage, the Halal version of KFC were trading as normal.

The article in the OP seems to only suggest that it'd be disallowed to eat "during meetings". Surely if you're in a meeting with a muslim following Ramadan traditions, it'd be common courtesy not to eat in front of them.

However, what I do disagree with is that there has to be legislation for this. There's no need for legal interference, even though I do agree with the principle.

I don't mind it either but my dad used to get KFC chicken then eat it going "MMMMMMM!" really loudly and "Oh, this is just great! MMMMMMM!" and exaggerating his chewing and such. I found this to be a bit rude. This isn't just how he eats, he only did it in front of me as a way of shoving in my face "Haha, I don't agree with what you're not doing, and look, I'm doing it and you can't stop me!" So for the same reason I would never eat in front of a Muslim during fasting. "Mmm... this food tastes so good, shame you're fasting because it's really delicious... MMMMMM! YUUUUM! Soooo good...." Come on. Is it REALLY such a huge deal to wait just a couple of hours to eat so as not to do it in front of a Muslim? It's not THAT big of an inconvenience, and I've never heard of buffets at meetings anyway. And let's face it, if your religion called for fasting you wouldn't want others throwing food in your face either.

Then what next? It will be more rules to please muslims, but this is a christian country with christian history, the PC nutjobs would rather we have islamic history!.. One little rule leads to another... and another.

*winter lights* ....... *winter gifts*...

I had one flippant thought

This argument in Tower Hamlets has been a Ramadan ding dong


Oh dear I am showing my age :blush:

I'm not saying it should be a law, but I'm saying you should do it out of respect for Muslims and their culture. If Christians had a fasting period, I would say that Muslims should, during that period, not eat in front of Christians either. They should respect our religion, but in the same way we should respect their religion.

Sounds like another prejudism against muslims. Ramadam basically is a month where finacially abled muslims have to fast and put themselves in the position of those who cannot afford food or dying of starvation in poor countries, once the month is over then muslims have to give 2.5%of their work earning to charity. hope that clears it up.

Yes we know that! But thats not what we are talking about.
Its about far left wacko's forcing rules down non muslims throats in a christian country!! Like i said its sleepwalking into a islamic state.

Thank you for coming in here, and Ramadan Mubarak

We understand that Ramadan is obligitory on muslims, that is not in question

However the initial reports were that the labour leader of the council and his deputy who happen to be muslims, did issue a memo which appeared to be imposing the fast on non-muslims, which was what the fuss seemed to be about.

The person objecting is a Liberal Democrat, and she has two members who are muslims who said the memo was not right.

The concern is that the rules of the Ramadan fast were being imposed on Non-Muslims, and that was what I was wondering about. Is it Islamic to impose Islamic fasts on non-muslems?

Any man that has faith would like to share his faith with others... I said to a muslim what would make your day, he said "for you to become a muslim"

Thanks for Ramadam Mubarak.:spin2:

Regarding muslim imposing Ramadam fast on non-muslim is not something i would agree on, for example someone imposing non halal meat to mulims will be wrong just as muslims imposing something on someone who are not part of the faith.