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brandstifter 30-08-2008 11:07 PM

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Originally posted by BigOz
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1. She doesn’t know how many days there are in a year.
2. She doesn’t know if a potato’s a vegetable…
3. …and thinks a tomato is one.
4. She thinks London’s a village.
5. She’s never head of Boris Johnson.
6. She doesn’t know what a walrus is.
7. She thinks Belgium is a city.
8. She doesn’t know what condiments are.
9. She doesn't know what the word 'peril' means.
10. She's never heard the phrase "toilet humour".
11. She thinks Mexico is a Caribbean island.
I never knew tomato was a fruit.
I never heard of Boris Johnson.
I don't know what condiments are
I didn't know what peril was.. I forgot what it was though
I didn't know what toilet humour meant.

Not everyone is the same.
You ever considered a career in rocket science? :whistle:

brandstifter 30-08-2008 11:09 PM

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“I never heard of Boris Johnson.”

Would that be the Boris Johnson who's the Mayor of London, occasional TV presenter, Tory MP, shadow Education Minister, former editor of the Spectator, frequent topic of controversial headline news and all-round media celebrity? Nope, sorry, never heard of him!



http://www.boris-johnson.com

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Johnson

:pat:

~Beachbum~ 30-08-2008 11:11 PM

to be fair i don't know 8 and 10..
and im supposed to be a grammar student!

brandstifter 30-08-2008 11:13 PM

"I don't know what condiments are."

It means salt and pepper!

:whistle:

serensilver 30-08-2008 11:21 PM

she was a teacher at my brothers school! :spin2:

sk8tersmum 30-08-2008 11:22 PM

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Originally posted by David_Purdy
I've supported her all the way through but the last couple of weeks I've noticed a load of things about her... she is fake!
I have been saying that she is fake for weeks now glad someone else is seeing how Fake she is getr her out PLEASE

:mad::mad:

brandstifter 30-08-2008 11:35 PM

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Originally posted by David_Purdy
I've supported her all the way through but the last couple of weeks I've noticed a load of things about her... she is fake!
I have been saying that she is fake for weeks now glad someone else is seeing how Fake she is getr her out PLEASE

:mad::mad:
Incredibly modest, though. Check her out on imdb or youtube. She's been in quite a few movies, TV dramas and - ugh - adverts, yet you don't hear her boasting about them, unlike Rex and his bloody restaurants or Lisa with her zillion so-called claims to fame.

:angel:

supernoodles! 30-08-2008 11:39 PM

yes but her being modest is all part of the plan

brandstifter 30-08-2008 11:43 PM

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Originally posted by supernoodles!
yes but her being modest is all part of the plan
To be honest, I don't think she is fake but it's academic anyway - there's been far too much negative hype about "gameplayers" this series. But it's an, er, game! I wonder if Ronaldo gets criticised for gameplaying during matches or called fake when he tricks defenders into going the wrong way!

:rolleyes:

supernoodles! 30-08-2008 11:46 PM

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Originally posted by supernoodles!
The things Rachel has been questioning such as is a potato a vegetable,whos boris johnson are all common sense!she KNOWS these things she just being fake and putting on a great bit act!
Other housemates have been cripplingly stupid over the series though.
Rex thought being proud of curves was 'sexual' and has made countless mistakes
Dale made a million and two mistakes about everything
Bex thought Luke was a 'politic' and that Hilary Duff was running for President as well as countless other much more mindless things than the dubious list on Rachel up there
Why is Rachel fake and they aren't?
Well imo Bex was just extremely daft and liked to make herself look daft to amuse the others,Dale,well he was just a bit of a numb skull from time to time and as for Rex i think hes right sometimes being proud of curves CAN come across as sexual.The thing is though Rachel is not stupid,she says these things becuase its all part of her plan bex did it in a way that it was obvious she was playing up the dumb act from time time.I wish i could get my point across better but i hope some of you at least can understand what im trying to get across.I just wish people would see through Rachel,i was nver a fan of her but didn`t particularly dislike her up until about a fortnight ago when i eventually relaised what a great big game shes playing.I went off Rex because of the way he treated Rachel but now im actually glad he spoke to her the way he did becuase it made me notice that Rachel is fake,any normal person would have eventually stood up for themselves or at least made some sort of comment!

bananarama 30-08-2008 11:47 PM

No sara is not a fake. She is like several on this thread a victim of a terrible educational system which qualifies people who should not be qualified.....

Basic knowledge as described by the OP is imperitive and no one should be in further education until they have it........Sorry to say it once more. State of the nation....

I have noticed on other BB series complete dim wits who can't even boil an egg talking about being at university.......When in fact they should not be allowed withing a thousand miles of a university.....

Shep 31-08-2008 12:35 AM

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Originally posted by brandstifter
Don't get me wrong - I love Rachel. She's so friendly and so positive and I hope she wins (especially as it'll annoy Luke, Bex, Nicole, Rex and Darnell so much). But come on – I don’t know whether to laugh or cry when I hear a trainee teacher reveal that:

1. She doesn’t know how many days there are in a year.
2. She doesn’t know if a potato’s a vegetable…
3. …and thinks a tomato is one.
4. She thinks London’s a village.
5. She’s never head of Boris Johnson.
6. She doesn’t know what a walrus is.
7. She thinks Belgium is a city.
8. She doesn’t know what condiments are.
9. She doesn't know what the word 'peril' means.
10. She's never heard the phrase "toilet humour".
11. She thinks Mexico is a Caribbean island.

Rachel, you’re a great gal but come on – get it sorted! Our children’s futures are in your hands, lol! :whistle:
1) She actually does, she said there were 356 but got the numbers mixed up instea dof 365 and corrected herself afterwards

2) Neither did I, actually (I'm 21 lol)

3) Tomatoe CAN be classified as a vegtable (Source: http://www.askoxford.com/asktheexper...utother/tomato)

4) Never heard her say that

5) Neither have I, untill I looked it up (Mayor of London woop woop!) I live in a rural village called Petherton and Rachel lives in a rural area called Torfean in wales. I think alot of people wouldn't know who he is IF you didn't live in London - can't really laugh at her for that

6) Darnell did an impression of a seal when she asked, so I'm not really going to comment on this one :wink:

7) Never heard her say that one

8) Of course, but one could easily not know what they are if they are told the object in questions alternate name. For example, if people always said Salt/Pepper which is the common word to use instead of condiments, then that's not really a big deal

9) That's actually not true, she said she didn't know what they meant by "At your peril", meaning she didn't know what they meant by the WAY they said it; the context it was used in; what they were going to do if she continues to washup. She was questioning the exact meaning not the actual word, etc

10) Neither did I really, like Rachel I gathered it was some form of dirty humour but again it's really not a big deal

11) No, she said she thought Mexico was in the Carribbean - and in actual fact some parts of Mexico's coast do overlap in the Caribbean sea :tongue:


She has led quite a sheltered life up in the valleys, and when she was acting at the age of 11 she said she didn't really study that much because she was always working.

Most of these gaffes are either misconstrued, misinterperated or exaggerated to make her seem more ditzy than she is.

I would expect alot of people's focus to wade slightly living in that house for 3 months with little to no sense of mental stimulation and boredom for days and days, not to mention the late nights/early rises for people to watch them - the brain is bound to be strained and a little out of touch.

gavinh2008 31-08-2008 12:44 AM

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Originally posted by Shep
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Originally posted by brandstifter
Don't get me wrong - I love Rachel. She's so friendly and so positive and I hope she wins (especially as it'll annoy Luke, Bex, Nicole, Rex and Darnell so much). But come on – I don’t know whether to laugh or cry when I hear a trainee teacher reveal that:

1. She doesn’t know how many days there are in a year.
2. She doesn’t know if a potato’s a vegetable…
3. …and thinks a tomato is one.
4. She thinks London’s a village.
5. She’s never head of Boris Johnson.
6. She doesn’t know what a walrus is.
7. She thinks Belgium is a city.
8. She doesn’t know what condiments are.
9. She doesn't know what the word 'peril' means.
10. She's never heard the phrase "toilet humour".
11. She thinks Mexico is a Caribbean island.

Rachel, you’re a great gal but come on – get it sorted! Our children’s futures are in your hands, lol! :whistle:
1) She actually does, she said there were 356 but got the numbers mixed up instea dof 365 and corrected herself afterwards

2) Neither did I, actually (I'm 21 lol)

3) Tomatoe CAN be classified as a vegtable (Source: http://www.askoxford.com/asktheexper...utother/tomato)

4) Never heard her say that

5) Neither have I, untill I looked it up (Mayor of London woop woop!) I live in a rural village called Petherton and Rachel lives in a rural area called Torfean in wales. I think alot of people wouldn't know who he is IF you didn't live in London - can't really laugh at her for that

6) Darnell did an impression of a seal when she asked, so I'm not really going to comment on this one :wink:

7) Never heard her say that one

8) Of course, but one could easily not know what they are if they are told the object in questions alternate name. For example, if people always said Salt/Pepper which is the common word to use instead of condiments, then that's not really a big deal

9) That's actually not true, she said she didn't know what they meant by "At your peril", meaning she didn't know what they meant by the WAY they said it; the context it was used in; what they were going to do if she continues to washup. She was questioning the exact meaning not the actual word, etc

10) Neither did I really, like Rachel I gathered it was some form of dirty humour but again it's really not a big deal

11) No, she said she thought Mexico was in the Carribbean - and in actual fact some parts of Mexico's coast do overlap in the Caribbean sea :tongue:


She has led quite a sheltered life up in the valleys, and when she was acting at the age of 11 she said she didn't really study that much because she was always working.

Most of these gaffes are either misconstrued, misinterperated or exaggerated to make her seem more ditzy than she is.

I would expect alot of people's focus to wade slightly living in that house for 3 months with little to no sense of mental stimulation and boredom for days and days, not to mention the late nights/early rises for people to watch them - the brain is bound to be strained and a little out of touch.
You. Are. Amazing

You are just like the best Rachel fan I have ever seen, I could not have put it any better myself. You are completely right about all of them, I guess people are just looking for a reason to dislike Rachel and not actually see the real facts behind them. You sure put em in there place.

High five :hugesmile:

Shep 31-08-2008 01:08 AM

I'm a digital spy member, what do you expect. :dance2:

brandstifter 31-08-2008 08:32 AM

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I don’t agree with everything you said, Shep, but my compliments on such an extensive answer! However…

1) I think you should re-watch it. She mentions a number of different numbers and gets very confused! She doesn’t mention 365 until someone hands it to her on a plate!

2) With all due respect – and you aren’t the first on here to imply this – but why is whether or not you know something a good mark of how well known something is? You assume that if you don’t know it, it must be really obscure. But this may not be the case.

3) What it actually says is:

“…Scientifically speaking, a tomato is definitely a fruit…As far as cooking is concerned, some things which are strictly fruits may be called 'vegetables' because they are used in savoury rather than sweet cooking. The tomato, though technically a fruit, is often used as a vegetable…”

In other words, it’s a fruit but can be eaten like a vegetable and put in a salad, etc. This is not a new idea. After all, this is where the confusion comes from in the first place. Other fruits include cucumbers, aubergines, beans and corn on the cob!

“tomato: noun (pl. tomatoes) a glossy red or yellow edible fruit..." ~ Compact Oxford English Dictionary

4) I have compacted it but that was pretty much the gist. It was hilarious because she didn’t get how the Londoners in the house could walk around the West End and never bump into each other!

5) I vehemently dispute this. I know who George Bush is but I don’t live in America. I know who Mugabe is but I don’t live in Zimbabwe. How do I know? Because I watch the news (Boris Johnson has been barely out of it this year and was already a household name before that). Why do I need to know (after all, I don’t live in London either)? Because people being out of touch with what’s going on in the World is dangerous. That makes it easy for people like the tabloids or the BNP to dupe you into believing whatever they want you to. They pray on our ignorance. It's why, for example, so many Americans think we only invaded Northern Ireland in the last few years (it was over 800 years ago) and end up financing the IRA.

7) It was during the ad-hoc capital cities quiz the housemates did.

8) The word “condiments” is widely used in homes, cafés, restaurants and pubs. It’s an everyday word. Sorry, but it is!

9) She did later ask what the word meant, though.

10) See 2

11) Yeah, it was more the fact that she thought it was an island that tickled me rather than its location. It is mostly by the Gulf of Mexico but just touches the Caribbean in the South-East.

She has indeed led a sheltered life. My contention isn’t that she is ignorant on such a broad-ranging subjects but that she’s ignorant on such a broad-ranging subjects and training to be a primary school teacher. Some people on here have made the point that you don’t have to have much knowledge to be one but that is patently untrue. It always has been but it’s even more so now in these days of NC levels, standardised testing and Ofsted inspections.

:dance2:

brandstifter 31-08-2008 08:41 AM

Gavin:

“You are completely right about all of them.”

See above. Sorry to disappoint you!

“I guess people are just looking for a reason to dislike Rachel.”

Conveniently missed the part in my original post which says “Don't get me wrong - I love Rachel. She's so friendly and so positive and I hope she wins…”, did you, lol?

“…and not actually see the real facts behind them.”

Again, see above!

“You sure put em [sic] in there [sic] place.”

Again, sorry to disappoint you!

:whistle:

ange7 31-08-2008 09:03 AM

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Originally posted by Ross
Children don't learn that stuff at school though.

She did the Alphabetic backwards really quick, that's enough.
lol yeah that would come handy :laugh:...if any of the kids she teaches wind up on bb.
I like her too but her childlike enthusiasm ( ie sitting alone talking to her self as she ate dinner the other night) might be masking something deeper. Atleast I hope it is because if that's all there is then ... :shocked:

ange7 31-08-2008 09:08 AM

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Originally posted by Shep
I'm a digital spy member, what do you expect. :dance2:
your whole argument seemed to be either... "I never saw that" or " yeah so what I'm just as ignorant" .. why did you bother?:pat:

fingers 31-08-2008 10:34 AM

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Originally posted by ange7
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Originally posted by Shep
I'm a digital spy member, what do you expect. :dance2:
your whole argument seemed to be either... "I never saw that" or " yeah so what I'm just as ignorant" .. why did you bother?:pat:
It amazes me how many forum members will rush into print to say, in effect, "i'm just as ill informed as she is, why is that a bad thing?!

It is a bad thing for a "teacher" to never have heard of Lewis Carroll and/or Alice Through the Looking Glass (Alice in Wonderland). Even Walt Disney knew that!!! lol:whistle:

jonsep 31-08-2008 10:36 AM

whos walt disney?:dog:

fingers 31-08-2008 10:45 AM

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Originally posted by jonsep
whos walt disney?:dog:
I rest my case! lol:cheer2:

jonsep 31-08-2008 10:48 AM

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Originally posted by fingers
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Originally posted by jonsep
whos walt disney?:dog:
I rest my case! lol:cheer2:
didnt he make ice :colour:cream

fingers 31-08-2008 10:50 AM

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Originally posted by jonsep
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Originally posted by fingers
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Originally posted by jonsep
whos walt disney?:dog:
I rest my case! lol:cheer2:
didnt he make ice :colour:cream
Yes, they called it Wallt's:whistle:

jonsep 31-08-2008 10:52 AM

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Originally posted by fingers
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Originally posted by jonsep
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Originally posted by fingers
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Originally posted by jonsep
whos walt disney?:dog:
I rest my case! lol:cheer2:
didnt he make ice :colour:cream
Yes, they called it Wallt's:whistle:
walts cream,oh thats another story:cheer2:

gavinh2008 31-08-2008 11:20 AM

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Originally posted by brandstifter
Reply to Shep:

5) I vehemently dispute this. I know who George Bush is but I don’t live in America. I know who Mugabe is but I don’t live in Zimbabwe. How do I know? Because I watch the news (Boris Johnson has been barely out of it this year and was already a household name before that). Why do I need to know (after all, I don’t live in London either)? Because people being out of touch with what’s going on in the World is dangerous. That makes it easy for people like the tabloids or the BNP to dupe you into believing whatever they want you to. They pray on our ignorance. It's why, for example, so many Americans think we only invaded Northern Ireland in the last few years (it was over 800 years ago) and end up financing the IRA.

8) The word “condiments” is widely used in homes, cafés, restaurants and pubs. It’s an everyday word. Sorry, but it is!

:dance2:
I've heard of Tony Blair. I've heard of George Bush. I've never heard of Boris Johnson, if he's done anything that important I'm sure I would know, but I don't.

I never ever use the word condiments, never heard of it before I read the first post, just because you know it, and maybe some other people, doesnt mean everyone else does and uses it everyday, why say condiments when you can just say its name and not confuse people who dont know what it means?

The other points I suppose your right, but I dont think some of them got into the Highlights and I only watch the highlights so I cant exactly defend Rachel if I've never heard her say the other things.


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