what a load of bs

tbf

pain is felt by everyone who trains not just by disabled people

And anyway Sports personality of the year shouldnt be exclusive to able bodied athletes

Clearly not to the same extent as running on nerve endings.

phil neville

neither have a chance

How many own goals has he scored? :joker:

Anybody?!? I bet nobody who has posted on this thread could come anywhere near that standard. To be in the Olympics you need both natural talent and great determination.

Ask yourself how many Paralympians would get into the Olympics if they were able-bodied? Only a small handful. In fact, some scientists say technology with false feet etc is now some advanced that some disabled athletes are at no disadvantage at all compared to able-bodied athletes in certain sports. That explains why some Paralympians have competed in the Olympics.

It's not. You say it like there's some ban on them. If they do well enough they will appear, Tanny Grey THompson did a few years ago.

So what are you saying? disabled people have no natural talent or great determination. Who says disabled people are at no disadvantage? thats bs

The fact is, paralympians exert the same effort, determination and talent that olympians do. Something natural shouldn't take it away from that.

How many trophies did Gerrard win?

so theres no reason why a paralympic athlete shouldnt win

You know that's not what I'm saying. Because you're talking nonsense you have to start twisting my words. Nice one.:thumbs:

There's no reason why our 8 time world tiddlywink champion shouldn't win either, that's better than winning 5 medals.

Furthermore; if an able-bodied person/athlete was in an accident and became disabled, could THEY then go on to compete? I'd say no. Just like you said no vice versa.

Taking Natalie Du Toit as an example; she won a lot at the Paralympics and decided to compete in that 5000m swim at the normal (hate to say that word because it implies...abnormality) Olympics [which GB got silver & bronze IIRC].

This goes to show the standard of the Olympics really, if (probably) the best Paralympian only managed 16th in an Olympic event.

And I find the claim that "any able-bodied athlete" can train to Olympic standard to be silly, really.

Although I applaud Kenny for his successes, and the other Paralympians, I think that it'd reek of PC if he won Sports Personality of the Year.

I didn't say that.:rolleyes:

Plenty.

Well thats obviously because Natalie has a natural HUGE disadvantage compared to the Olympians. She still puts in as much determination and effort - which is what sports personality of the year is about.

The very fact someone disabled made it 16th in the Olympics is a huge effort.

Name them then.

I misunderstood you. That's a totally different situation as a lot of the disabled athletes have been disabled all their life but yes, I think a lot of them could compete after training for a year or 2.

This is sports personality of the YEAR, i.e. 2008. You're not actually being serious though, are you?

Grr, you make a good argument :tongue:

I don't know the full extent of her disability, but basically she has a prosthetic leg, yes? It doesn't seem to have affected her too much =\