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arista 10-02-2009 04:11 PM

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Originally posted by :)tom:)
I am and nearly all the religious people in my year are in my form group and they all were in shock or laughed at me when i told them i didnt belive in god!!!
Even the really stupid people were talking to me as if i had learning difficulty and couldnt understand how i didnt believe in god!




They need to read

'The God Delusion'

by Richard Dawkins.


This a is Free Nation some need to be told that , sometimes.

Mark 10-02-2009 04:16 PM

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Originally posted by 08marsh

Yes, i for one would look down on you, thinking;
'Awwww, how sad is this person's life that even though they don't believe in God or any religion they would bother to watse their time in a church'
If you're not religious why do you have to bother the people who are?

btw, is it not more narrow minded to have no beliefs.
Religious people have faith in things that aren't blatantly obvious in the world. Whereas, atheists don't tend to believe in anything they can't see or touch.
The situation was purely hypothetical about walking into a church, I was just trying to prove my point to AMA about this thread, in that wherever there is the majority of people, that's where more people will look down on the others.

"If you're not religious why do you have to bother the people who are?" I could ask the same about all religious people 'bothering' young children who's minds aren't formed enough to figure out what they want to believe in, but the church loves to get them on their side when they are young. I'm was raised as a christian, was baptised/confirmed and all that rubbish, but when I was a young teenager I didn't know any better. All the doctrine that was pumped into me I believed, because I wasn't taugh an alternative.

:angel:

Tom 10-02-2009 04:20 PM

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Originally posted by Mark
Quote:

Originally posted by 08marsh

Yes, i for one would look down on you, thinking;
'Awwww, how sad is this person's life that even though they don't believe in God or any religion they would bother to watse their time in a church'
If you're not religious why do you have to bother the people who are?

btw, is it not more narrow minded to have no beliefs.
Religious people have faith in things that aren't blatantly obvious in the world. Whereas, atheists don't tend to believe in anything they can't see or touch.
The situation was purely hypothetical about walking into a church, I was just trying to prove my point to AMA about this thread, in that wherever there is the majority of people, that's where more people will look down on the others.

"If you're not religious why do you have to bother the people who are?" I could ask the same about all religious people 'bothering' young children who's minds aren't formed enough to figure out what they want to believe in, but the church loves to get them on their side when they are young. I'm was raised as a christian, was baptised/confirmed and all that rubbish, but when I was a young teenager I didn't know any better. All the doctrine that was pumped into me I believed, because I wasn't taugh an alternative.

:angel:
But just because it happened to you doesn't mean it happens to everyone ...

A lot of religious people don't bother teaching or trying to convert other people and just get on with their own lives. Obviously there is the odd moron who'll stand in the middle of a busy street with a megaphone shouting "Jesus loves you" but really thats just the religious equivalent of the bus adverts in London saying there is nothing ...

xDramatick 10-02-2009 04:46 PM

Me!
I'm an athiest.

Don't even get me started on people who preach in the streets. One guy told me he pitied me for being gay and started calling me+my mates a heathen.
'twas rather funny though. Just laughed at him x]

Saph 10-02-2009 07:50 PM

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Originally posted by :)tom:)
I am and nearly all the religious people in my year are in my form group and they all were in shock or laughed at me when i told them i didnt belive in god!!!
Even the really stupid people were talking to me as if i had learning difficulty and couldnt understand how i didnt believe in god!
thats what happens to me :whistle:

Tom 10-02-2009 09:10 PM

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Originally posted by Darenn
Me!
I'm an athiest.

Don't even get me started on people who preach in the streets. One guy told me he pitied me for being gay and started calling me+my mates a heathen.
'twas rather funny though. Just laughed at him x]
I count myself as religious but thats just stupid when religious people do that ... if they ever tell you its a sin or whatever, just say "whatever happened to 'Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself'"- basically thats supposed to be greater than any commandment, so basically overrides any prejudice in the Bible :joker:

Marsh. 11-02-2009 11:12 PM

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Originally posted by Mark
Quote:

Originally posted by 08marsh

Yes, i for one would look down on you, thinking;
'Awwww, how sad is this person's life that even though they don't believe in God or any religion they would bother to watse their time in a church'
If you're not religious why do you have to bother the people who are?

btw, is it not more narrow minded to have no beliefs.
Religious people have faith in things that aren't blatantly obvious in the world. Whereas, atheists don't tend to believe in anything they can't see or touch.
The situation was purely hypothetical about walking into a church, I was just trying to prove my point to AMA about this thread, in that wherever there is the majority of people, that's where more people will look down on the others.

"If you're not religious why do you have to bother the people who are?" I could ask the same about all religious people 'bothering' young children who's minds aren't formed enough to figure out what they want to believe in, but the church loves to get them on their side when they are young. I'm was raised as a christian, was baptised/confirmed and all that rubbish, but when I was a young teenager I didn't know any better. All the doctrine that was pumped into me I believed, because I wasn't taugh an alternative.

:angel:
Do atheists raise their children with a balanced view on religion so that the children can make up their own mind? Not from what i know of. They bring their children up to not believe in God.
The majority of my family are Roman Catholic and my small cousins (between 4 and 10) don't have God drummed into them. They are told about God and learn about it at school but they aren't forced or bullied into anything.
The idea of something being pumped into you growing up could be used to back anyone's opinion because we are all influenced by our surroundings and social network. That's not religious or any other group of people 'getting them on their side', that's nature.

Marsh. 11-02-2009 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Darenn
Me!
I'm an athiest.

Don't even get me started on people who preach in the streets. One guy told me he pitied me for being gay and started calling me+my mates a heathen.
'twas rather funny though. Just laughed at him x]
I'm Catholic and i don't believe that people should be shouting and screaming about their beliefs of what is right and wrong. People should keep their faith private

Z 11-02-2009 11:20 PM

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Originally posted by 08marsh
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Originally posted by Mark
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Originally posted by 08marsh

Yes, i for one would look down on you, thinking;
'Awwww, how sad is this person's life that even though they don't believe in God or any religion they would bother to watse their time in a church'
If you're not religious why do you have to bother the people who are?

btw, is it not more narrow minded to have no beliefs.
Religious people have faith in things that aren't blatantly obvious in the world. Whereas, atheists don't tend to believe in anything they can't see or touch.
The situation was purely hypothetical about walking into a church, I was just trying to prove my point to AMA about this thread, in that wherever there is the majority of people, that's where more people will look down on the others.

"If you're not religious why do you have to bother the people who are?" I could ask the same about all religious people 'bothering' young children who's minds aren't formed enough to figure out what they want to believe in, but the church loves to get them on their side when they are young. I'm was raised as a christian, was baptised/confirmed and all that rubbish, but when I was a young teenager I didn't know any better. All the doctrine that was pumped into me I believed, because I wasn't taugh an alternative.

:angel:
Do atheists raise their children with a balanced view on religion so that the children can make up their own mind? Not from what i know of. They bring their children up to not believe in God.
The majority of my family are Roman Catholic and my small cousins (between 4 and 10) don't have God drummed into them. They are told about God and learn about it at school but they aren't forced or bullied into anything.
The idea of something being pumped into you growing up could be used to back anyone's opinion because we are all influenced by our surroundings and social network. That's not religious or any other group of people 'getting them on their side', that's nature.

I am an atheist. My parents did not ever once say to me "God isn't real, this is what you must believe in." They did not baptise me, I only ever went to church with school for holiday services, I found it a chore and generally found myself thinking it was a load of rubbish when I was there. Nobody told me to think that, I gathered that myself when I was about 9 years old.


I don't ever get looked down on being an atheist, but that's maybe because I don't go around telling people I'm an atheist, or speaking about religion at all. I find people who spout their beliefs (or lack of) to anyone who will listen really irritating in general (as in, on any issue) so I just don't speak about my beliefs openly.

Fom 12-02-2009 09:17 AM

I like this quote and I am going to throw it in here:

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You're quite religious. Is that ever a conflict for you?

No, I am a Christian but I think that the bible is a guideline. I don't think it is set in stone. There's certain things that are set in stone, like I don't think you should kill anyone, but I think that it's a book and people will interpret it the way you will. Everybody gets something different from it. Who am I to judge? I make mistakes, regardless of what they are or how big they are in people's eyes. I find it irritating how certain people paint Christians as bad and they say that we're judgemental and we're not.
I suppose I am stereotypical when talking about religion, I don't like the people who follow it like a law, God DID this, God WANTS this. Follow the book for its morals by all means, I mean even I do that I suppose, and I am not religious.

Wildcat! 12-02-2009 09:25 AM

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Originally posted by Fom
I like this quote and I am going to throw it in here:

Quote:

You're quite religious. Is that ever a conflict for you?

No, I am a Christian but I think that the bible is a guideline. I don't think it is set in stone. There's certain things that are set in stone, like I don't think you should kill anyone, but I think that it's a book and people will interpret it the way you will. Everybody gets something different from it. Who am I to judge? I make mistakes, regardless of what they are or how big they are in people's eyes. I find it irritating how certain people paint Christians as bad and they say that we're judgemental and we're not.
I suppose I am stereotypical when talking about religion, I don't like the people who follow it like a law, God DID this, God WANTS this. Follow the book for its morals by all means, I mean even I do that I suppose, and I am not religious.
Youre not religious. I like to think that I am religious. But from what youve posted, youre not judgemental, and I dont think you look down on religious people. Just the ones that dont seem to tolerate you. Thats fair enough!
I dont look dowm on anyone either, but I always want people to believe in what I do.

Loukas 12-02-2009 09:28 AM

I really don't know what to believe in. But hey in 15 so i hope the adults don't think my opinion is stupid. What i DO believe in tho is Karma, the act of what goes around comes around. I believe there is a force more powerful looking over us, whether it is god or whatever. I would like to hope we are going somewhere after death.. but nobody can prove if we do and the almost definitely won't in our lifetime.

One of my main phases in life is, Who Knows? Nobody. So live your *******ing life to the full. Life is TOO short.

Tom 12-02-2009 10:06 AM

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Originally posted by Fom
I like this quote and I am going to throw it in here:

Quote:

You're quite religious. Is that ever a conflict for you?

No, I am a Christian but I think that the bible is a guideline. I don't think it is set in stone. There's certain things that are set in stone, like I don't think you should kill anyone, but I think that it's a book and people will interpret it the way you will. Everybody gets something different from it. Who am I to judge? I make mistakes, regardless of what they are or how big they are in people's eyes. I find it irritating how certain people paint Christians as bad and they say that we're judgemental and we're not.
I suppose I am stereotypical when talking about religion, I don't like the people who follow it like a law, God DID this, God WANTS this. Follow the book for its morals by all means, I mean even I do that I suppose, and I am not religious.
The vast majority of biblical laws are now legal laws so of course you follow them.

andyman 12-02-2009 10:14 AM

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Originally posted by DoubleTrouble
I really don't know what to believe in. But hey in 15 so i hope the adults don't think my opinion is stupid. What i DO believe in tho is Karma, the act of what goes around comes around. I believe there is a force more powerful looking over us, whether it is god or whatever. I would like to hope we are going somewhere after death.. but nobody can prove if we do and the almost definitely won't in our lifetime.

One of my main phases in life is, Who Knows? Nobody. So live your *******ing life to the full. Life is TOO short.
I'm thinking of My Name is Earl

:bigsmile:

Loukas 12-02-2009 10:44 AM

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Originally posted by andyman
Quote:

Originally posted by DoubleTrouble
I really don't know what to believe in. But hey in 15 so i hope the adults don't think my opinion is stupid. What i DO believe in tho is Karma, the act of what goes around comes around. I believe there is a force more powerful looking over us, whether it is god or whatever. I would like to hope we are going somewhere after death.. but nobody can prove if we do and the almost definitely won't in our lifetime.

One of my main phases in life is, Who Knows? Nobody. So live your *******ing life to the full. Life is TOO short.
I'm thinking of My Name is Earl

:bigsmile:
OMFG Yeah!! HAHAHAHAHA i sound like Randy! HAHA

andyman 13-02-2009 01:46 AM

I can't say god is not real nor can i say god is real due to none being the truth, but i have my faith in science!

It is a worry when many young people trust the holy book than a science book..

Marsh. 13-02-2009 08:25 PM

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Originally posted by andyman
I can't say god is not real nor can i say god is real due to none being the truth, but i have my faith in science!

It is a worry when many young people trust the holy book than a science book..
God can't be proven to exist or not exist, but saying science is the TRUTH is just the same. They aren't accurate themselves. It was in the paper that scientists found evidence that eggs cause cancer, and now their saying they have no link whatsoever to cancer.

andyman 13-02-2009 08:37 PM

Science is about breaking down the BS and learning what is real! The truth and understanding why that is the truth etc. Science is not set in stone and changes over time as we learn more and understand more due to science...

Marsh. 13-02-2009 08:42 PM

So, how does that make science books more believable than the bible

andyman 13-02-2009 08:50 PM

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Originally posted by 08marsh
So, how does that make science books more believable than the bible
Because science has to be proven to be fact! You might be thinking of scientific theory, but do you trust science??? If you want to know the truth then that is what science is about, thats the whole point of it!

Marsh. 15-02-2009 09:15 AM

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Originally posted by andyman
Quote:

Originally posted by 08marsh
So, how does that make science books more believable than the bible
Because science has to be proven to be fact! You might be thinking of scientific theory, but do you trust science??? If you want to know the truth then that is what science is about, thats the whole point of it!
Trust science? Telling you one thing then saying 'oh hang on a minute we were wrong after all'

NettoSuperstar! 15-02-2009 09:56 AM

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Originally posted by 08marsh
Quote:

Originally posted by andyman
Quote:

Originally posted by 08marsh
So, how does that make science books more believable than the bible
Because science has to be proven to be fact! You might be thinking of scientific theory, but do you trust science??? If you want to know the truth then that is what science is about, thats the whole point of it!
Trust science? Telling you one thing then saying 'oh hang on a minute we were wrong after all'
knowledge is always evolving and science is just about gathering evidence to back up theories. Few scientists state things as fact unless there is overwhelming evidence to suggest it is...like smoking causing cancer for example


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