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Lewis. 01-03-2009 11:31 AM

But, with time, People will start to realise that if they commit a murder then they will be punished. Personally i think Rape should be punished with death, Along with murder and torture. If not punished with Death, then why not show the rapist what it feels like to be raped? Why not put them into a room with an old man and let them feel how it feels to be raped. These crimes cannot carry on and people are not going to learn unless there is a Strict punishment, to scare them from commiting rape

NettoSuperstar! 01-03-2009 11:33 AM

they probably know already what its like to be raped/abused! thats why they do it!

And the US/other places have had the death penalty for years and it hasnt helped one bit

We're beginning to realise (through scientific study) that punishment like hanging etc doesnt work. trying to understand why people did it and rehabilitation works better. Although there are some sex offenders that should be removed from society to protect us until they are no longer a risk....I dont agree they should be treated inhumanely.

Lewis. 01-03-2009 11:38 AM

But they need to be taught that what they are doing is wrong and destroys many peoples Confidence. I think that just locking them up in a room with Xbox 360's and tv, Is not going to make them learn! They need to be cruely punished and hurt, People need to destroy their confidence. An eye for an eye

Lewis. 01-03-2009 11:41 AM

After seeing that you have edited your post: The only way to protect society from the person, is to get rid of them. People are paying money everyday to keep horrible rapists alive in jail and make them nice and comfy. I don't have a ps3. I don't have an Xbox 360. But my Mum is still paying tax thoughout the year to keep these criminals alive and pay for their Xbox 360s and Ps3s. I think that if they are too bad for society then they should be gotten rid of

NettoSuperstar! 01-03-2009 11:44 AM

Removing them from society is enough, some of them have been abused as children, should we really be carrying on the cycle? abusing them more only makes them worse.

Lewis. 01-03-2009 11:46 AM

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Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Removing them from society is enough, some of them have been abused as children, should we really be carrying on the cycle? abusing them more only makes them worse.
Then kill them?

NettoSuperstar! 01-03-2009 11:47 AM

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Originally posted by Lewis:)
After seeing that you have edited your post: The only way to protect society from the person, is to get rid of them. People are paying money everyday to keep horrible rapists alive in jail and make them nice and comfy. I don't have a ps3. I don't have an Xbox 360. But my Mum is still paying tax thoughout the year to keep these criminals alive and pay for their Xbox 360s and Ps3s. I think that if they are too bad for society then they should be gotten rid of
Lewis we are learning and understanding how they came to do these crimes...it has enhanced our understanding of criminal behaviour, which has helped catch offenders and develop our knowledge of risk. Hopefully it will help us prevent these kinds of crimes from happening again. Kill them, that vital knowledge is gone

Fom 01-03-2009 11:48 AM

You don't get the death penalty for rape anyway, that kind of sentence is for multiple murders or murdering children. You have to do a lot to be put on the death penalty, they don't just give it anyone.

NettoSuperstar! 01-03-2009 11:49 AM

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Originally posted by Lewis:)
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Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Removing them from society is enough, some of them have been abused as children, should we really be carrying on the cycle? abusing them more only makes them worse.
Then kill them?
Have you heard of Offender profiling? helps us to catch criminals...if we didnt learn from them we wouldnt have that information.

NettoSuperstar! 01-03-2009 11:51 AM

also...what about people who are wrongly convicted?

Fom 01-03-2009 11:53 AM

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Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
also...what about people who are wrongly convicted?
See... there is no way out of that, but to be fair if they didn't get put too death they would be spending a long time in prison wasting away their innocent life. No easy way out of that, its gonna be bad either way.

NettoSuperstar! 01-03-2009 11:54 AM

Bad unless they are lucky and get released...some do. nothing as bad as death. Theyd be blood on our hands

30stone 01-03-2009 12:21 PM

You tourture someone then when they come out of prison chances are they would be mentaly scarred more so than when they raped some one, and are more likely to commit another crime.

As for death, would you really want to an innocent man to actually die? there are still cases where they get the wrong person.

ange7 04-03-2009 12:28 PM

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Originally posted by Lewis:)
We were discussing this statement in my GCSE Phsycology class the other day and i wanted to know what you think of this statement and whether you agree to it or not?

The majority of my class agreed to the statement but a few people didn't. I totally agree with this statement to be honest, It is absolutley sickening to force someone to have sexual intercourse with you, making them do things that in some cases, they may not understand. I think it should come under torture and that people who do rape, should be killed. Just by locking them up for a few years, does not mean they are not going to do it again. It is the same with any crime, but rape is a crime that should not be repeated. I find it horrible that the average time a person will get in jail if they rape somebody is3-5 Years
:shocked: you scare the ***** out of me...

arista 04-03-2009 01:19 PM

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Originally posted by ange7
Quote:

Originally posted by Lewis:)
We were discussing this statement in my GCSE Phsycology class the other day and i wanted to know what you think of this statement and whether you agree to it or not?

The majority of my class agreed to the statement but a few people didn't. I totally agree with this statement to be honest, It is absolutley sickening to force someone to have sexual intercourse with you, making them do things that in some cases, they may not understand. I think it should come under torture and that people who do rape, should be killed. Just by locking them up for a few years, does not mean they are not going to do it again. It is the same with any crime, but rape is a crime that should not be repeated. I find it horrible that the average time a person will get in jail if they rape somebody is3-5 Years
:shocked: you scare the **** out of me...


Its OK Ange
unless we get a World War
these Laws will not come in.

lily. 04-03-2009 01:25 PM

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Originally posted by Lewis:)
But, with time, People will start to realise that if they commit a murder then they will be punished. Personally i think Rape should be punished with death, Along with murder and torture. If not punished with Death, then why not show the rapist what it feels like to be raped? Why not put them into a room with an old man and let them feel how it feels to be raped. These crimes cannot carry on and people are not going to learn unless there is a Strict punishment, to scare them from commiting rape

I'm sorry to be the one to bring this up, but at age 13, I find it absolutely shocking that you have an opinion like that.

arista 04-03-2009 02:16 PM

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Originally posted by lili
Quote:

Originally posted by Lewis:)
But, with time, People will start to realise that if they commit a murder then they will be punished. Personally i think Rape should be punished with death, Along with murder and torture. If not punished with Death, then why not show the rapist what it feels like to be raped? Why not put them into a room with an old man and let them feel how it feels to be raped. These crimes cannot carry on and people are not going to learn unless there is a Strict punishment, to scare them from commiting rape

I'm sorry to be the one to bring this up, but at age 13, I find it absolutely shocking that you have an opinion like that.

You will have to see it like a BluRay 1080P Disc Movie
Rated 18.

Deirdre 04-03-2009 02:53 PM

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Originally posted by lili
Quote:

Originally posted by Lewis:)
But, with time, People will start to realise that if they commit a murder then they will be punished. Personally i think Rape should be punished with death, Along with murder and torture. If not punished with Death, then why not show the rapist what it feels like to be raped? Why not put them into a room with an old man and let them feel how it feels to be raped. These crimes cannot carry on and people are not going to learn unless there is a Strict punishment, to scare them from commiting rape

I'm sorry to be the one to bring this up, but at age 13, I find it absolutely shocking that you have an opinion like that.
I agree. I don't see how anyone can see how it's ok to rape someone after they've done it to someone else. Isn't that just telling them it's ok to rape?

As for the death penalty, I don't agree with it. These rapists don't want to spend the rest of their live in jail. I'm sure they'd rather die. And that's exactly what you'd be giving to them. But I think the answer is longer sentences. 3-5 years for raping someone is way too short.

NettoSuperstar! 05-03-2009 09:02 AM

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Originally posted by lili
Quote:

Originally posted by Lewis:)
But, with time, People will start to realise that if they commit a murder then they will be punished. Personally i think Rape should be punished with death, Along with murder and torture. If not punished with Death, then why not show the rapist what it feels like to be raped? Why not put them into a room with an old man and let them feel how it feels to be raped. These crimes cannot carry on and people are not going to learn unless there is a Strict punishment, to scare them from commiting rape

I'm sorry to be the one to bring this up, but at age 13, I find it absolutely shocking that you have an opinion like that.
Im more worried about what theyre teaching him in class!

andyman 05-03-2009 10:25 AM

Lewis! Would you watch them die?

bananarama 05-03-2009 12:58 PM

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Originally posted by *mazedsalv**
For me, I'd say let them go to jail for life and make them stay there until they die and that will be a slow painful death, the same for if you are in jail for killing someone, dont kill them, make them suffer.

Sorry but its the tax payer that suffers and those that die because money is spent on criminals in prison instead of the sick......

NettoSuperstar! 05-03-2009 01:02 PM

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Originally posted by bananarama
Quote:

Originally posted by *mazedsalv**
For me, I'd say let them go to jail for life and make them stay there until they die and that will be a slow painful death, the same for if you are in jail for killing someone, dont kill them, make them suffer.

Sorry but its the tax payer that suffers and those that die because money is spent on criminals in prison instead of the sick......
Money is spent on rehabilitation and learning how to detect and prevent future crimes. Is that a waste? ...and its not "instead" of the sick. And they have to have some system of priveleges to keep order.

bananarama 05-03-2009 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lewis:)
We were discussing this statement in my GCSE Phsycology class the other day and i wanted to know what you think of this statement and whether you agree to it or not?

The majority of my class agreed to the statement but a few people didn't. I totally agree with this statement to be honest, It is absolutley sickening to force someone to have sexual intercourse with you, making them do things that in some cases, they may not understand. I think it should come under torture and that people who do rape, should be killed. Just by locking them up for a few years, does not mean they are not going to do it again. It is the same with any crime, but rape is a crime that should not be repeated. I find it horrible that the average time a person will get in jail if they rape somebody is3-5 Years

Sentencing values in this country are indeed based on insane thinking by the panel that decide on such.

On topic. You cannot put Rape as horrible as it is above murder........You cannot execute rapists but not murderers......

Also Rape is so easily contrived by a bitter woman that it would almost certainly be the case that false accusiations would result in many unjustified executions......

No. To bring in the death penality for rape would be the height of crass stupidity.....But i agree sentencing is far to lenient.......But accused/convicted rapists must be kept alive in case the rapist is a victim of a womans revenge for something...


Forensics can only indicate intamacy it cannot indicate rape unless possible anatomical damge in some cases proves otherwise.

The death sentence should be introduced for cold blooded murderers........Drug peddlers and dealers should also be aotomatically executed regardless of the nature of the drugs

Recreational drug takers and those that brainwash religion into children should be birched until their flesh drops off......

Lewis. 05-03-2009 03:51 PM

New statement to debate :)

arista 05-03-2009 04:05 PM

banarama

'Until there Flesh Drops off' ???


Maybe you should work in the Turkey Prisons.


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