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Lauren 10-03-2009 05:42 PM

Arista - why do you believe this man is a "nutjob" ? He is echoing the same beliefs as moderate Christians.

Tom 10-03-2009 06:03 PM

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Originally posted by james_h
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Originally posted by Tom
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Originally posted by ange7
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Originally posted by Tom
So baptised is just a posh word for brainwashed?
aww ... your trying too hard.
Am I? How? :puzzled:

I was just going off the point that baptise is the Greek word for immerse, so people are immersed in religion not necessarily at their own will, so are brainwashed.

I wouldn't exactly say that was trying too hard ... but as ever you're just picking at small points in order to try and score points and get a reaction. I pity you
No, they are immersed in water hence meant to wash away original sin which we are all meant to be born with. And Baptism is like a preliminary thing. There's confirmation at like 13 when you confirm your beliefs like Baptism but you make the decision yourself. LOL Btw I have a very religious gran and I go to a Catholic School just in case your wondering LOL
Ha, how wrong I was :blush2::blush2::blush2:

But I do think that its not a decision you make yourself most of the time, if certain beliefs are said to you time and time again you're going to believe them especially when you're at an impressionable age

arista 10-03-2009 06:29 PM

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Originally posted by Lauren
Arista - why do you believe this man is a "nutjob" ? He is echoing the same beliefs as moderate Christians.


He was removed from the UK
because he could not speak without starting a War.

Dom:D 10-03-2009 07:05 PM

:rolleyes:

MarkWaldorf 10-03-2009 09:11 PM

I, Jade, and other Christians will believe what we want to believe. He believes there's a hell waiting for us, I believe there's a heaven. I hope Jade sticks a fat "****" on this one.

Wildcat! 10-03-2009 09:28 PM

Muslims dont even believe that. The only people they believe would go to hell, are the non believers, as in non believers of the 3 books. The tora, the bible and the Coran. All three are ancestors of Islam. There is a reason why a muslim is allowed to marry christian or jewish people.

ange7 11-03-2009 04:07 AM

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Originally posted by arista
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Originally posted by ange7
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Originally posted by arista
Do you understand Every Viewpoint
on Jade gets posted.

If he did not a Admin would have.


So get of your Utter High Horse
down there.


Life In The City.
lol...don't get upset.
you contradicted yourself....so pointed it out to you.

re "Every Viewpoint on Jade gets posted"
Rubbish. Admin don't go around looking for EVERY bb related article to post. ffs hehe
People post stuff for a reason. Sticks has posted stuff about Islam before many times before.




My fav prince song is...
Sign of the Times



I am not Upset.


Leave Sticks Alone
its good to have many views
likle I love watching the Iranian Owned Press TV News ch.
on Sky.
George Galloway can say what ever he wants on his shows on it,
no Stuck Up Bloated BBC rules on there.


Ange
is this thread of mine to hard for you
or have you not seen it yet
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...php?tid=109285
Sticks can take care of himself. I'm not silencing Sticks...
"it is good to have many views" you pointlessly say. Obviously that's true but that doesn't mean I ought to agree with all of them hehe lol.

re "is this thread of mine to hard for you" ... yes

ange7 11-03-2009 04:20 AM

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Originally posted by Tom
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Originally posted by james_h
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Originally posted by Tom
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Originally posted by ange7
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Originally posted by Tom
So baptised is just a posh word for brainwashed?
aww ... your trying too hard.
Am I? How? :puzzled:

I was just going off the point that baptise is the Greek word for immerse, so people are immersed in religion not necessarily at their own will, so are brainwashed.

I wouldn't exactly say that was trying too hard ... but as ever you're just picking at small points in order to try and score points and get a reaction. I pity you
No, they are immersed in water hence meant to wash away original sin which we are all meant to be born with. And Baptism is like a preliminary thing. There's confirmation at like 13 when you confirm your beliefs like Baptism but you make the decision yourself. LOL Btw I have a very religious gran and I go to a Catholic School just in case your wondering LOL
Ha, how wrong I was :blush2::blush2::blush2:

But I do think that its not a decision you make yourself most of the time, if certain beliefs are said to you time and time again you're going to believe them especially when you're at an impressionable age
hehe but you "pity" me? In your eagarness to look clever with your smug summing up you dropped the ball. Please Tom ...don't make me list all your Tom-isms in my signature. My fav is "I don't have to understand what I write!!"

Lauren 11-03-2009 06:56 AM

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Originally posted by Markus
I, Jade, and other Christians will believe what we want to believe. He believes there's a hell waiting for us, I believe there's a heaven. I hope Jade sticks a fat "****" on this one.
Well you believe there's a hell waiting for me, as you are a Christian and I am not.
Fair?

andyman 11-03-2009 07:38 AM

Lauren you will go to hell if you dont talk to god about your sins n stuff... Erm.. Yep.. Ok...

It was on this program lastnight about these christians and on of them (13yr old girl) was upset knowing that we are all going to hell if we dont tell the lord our sins and follow his word n stuff... Yep!

And they told kids to think about their sins at night or when they die they will go straight to hell! Muhahaha!!! Dear lord and spank me silly but that aint right!

arista 11-03-2009 07:43 AM

Lauren can not go to Hell
as there is Not any Hell.

andyman 11-03-2009 07:46 AM

There is a hell... Birmingham!!

arista 11-03-2009 07:50 AM

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Originally posted by andyman
There is a hell... Birmingham!!
Sure a Living Hell.

MarkWaldorf 11-03-2009 12:46 PM

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Originally posted by Lauren
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Originally posted by Markus
I, Jade, and other Christians will believe what we want to believe. He believes there's a hell waiting for us, I believe there's a heaven. I hope Jade sticks a fat "****" on this one.
Well you believe there's a hell waiting for me, as you are a Christian and I am not.
Fair?
I didn't mean hell was waiting for anyone at all...lol

Sticks 11-03-2009 12:50 PM

This image

http://www.wisebread.com/files/fruga...ezing_over.jpg

comes to mind

We are getting off topic here which was about how a group of extremists have been attacking Jade Goody, who was my first client when I opperated as a Cyber Devil's advocate.

andyman 11-03-2009 01:11 PM

^Will the Cyber Devil Advocate come out of retirement?

arista 11-03-2009 01:14 PM

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Originally posted by Sticks
This image

http://www.wisebread.com/files/fruga...ezing_over.jpg

comes to mind

We are getting off topic here which was about how a group of extremists have been attacking Jade Goody, who was my first client when I opperated as a Cyber Devil's advocate.


Sticks there is No God, anyway.


Sign Of The Times.

Tom 11-03-2009 03:58 PM

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Originally posted by ange7

hehe but you "pity" me? In your eagarness to look clever with your smug summing up you dropped the ball. Please Tom ...don't make me list all your Tom-isms in my signature. My fav is "I don't have to understand what I write!!"
I don't mind that I'm wrong, if I'm wrong I'll hold up my hands and admit it

You on the other hand latch on to other comments of other people and constantly bring other people down just to get a reaction, and this is why I pity you because you come across as though you're actually clueless but say things anyway

And leave my Tom-isms alone, I don't think before I speak/type, I just type and don't care :joker: If thats actually the worst you can come up with then perhaps you don't stalk my posts as much as I think you do

Don't remember saying "I don't have to understand what I write" though but of course maybe it was something where you could imply that

ange7 12-03-2009 03:11 AM

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Originally posted by Tom
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Originally posted by ange7

hehe but you "pity" me? In your eagarness to look clever with your smug summing up you dropped the ball. Please Tom ...don't make me list all your Tom-isms in my signature. My fav is "I don't have to understand what I write!!"
I don't mind that I'm wrong, if I'm wrong I'll hold up my hands and admit it

You on the other hand latch on to other comments of other people and constantly bring other people down just to get a reaction, and this is why I pity you because you come across as though you're actually clueless but say things anyway

And leave my Tom-isms alone, I don't think before I speak/type, I just type and don't care :joker: If thats actually the worst you can come up with then perhaps you don't stalk my posts as much as I think you do

Don't remember saying "I don't have to understand what I write" though but of course maybe it was something where you could imply that
my other fav was " I don't need to agree with what I'm saying!!"... classic. ... oh and that explanation of "Time" was a human invention and how we have a set number of days that will one day " run out"... we'll run out of time!!!. Wish I could remember where they are...
The "worst" I came up with was proving you wrong... this is the cherry on the cake :P
ps..."stalking" ??? in your wildest paranoid schizophrenic fantasies champ... mahahaha...If people disagree with you please don't search for other angles for why they do.... its usually the most obvious ie... you spoke some nonsense.

Lauren 12-03-2009 03:32 AM

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Originally posted by MarkSpears
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Originally posted by Lauren
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Originally posted by Markus
I, Jade, and other Christians will believe what we want to believe. He believes there's a hell waiting for us, I believe there's a heaven. I hope Jade sticks a fat "****" on this one.
Well you believe there's a hell waiting for me, as you are a Christian and I am not.
Fair?
I didn't mean hell was waiting for anyone at all...lol
But Christians believe there is a hell waiting for sinners who have not repented, that includes me.

I'm just showing how his argument isn't far-extended from things we have come to accept as "normal" in Christianity.

Tom 12-03-2009 11:12 AM

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Originally posted by ange7

my other fav was " I don't need to agree with what I'm saying!!"... classic. ... oh and that explanation of "Time" was a human invention and how we have a set number of days that will one day " run out"... we'll run out of time!!!. Wish I could remember where they are...
The "worst" I came up with was proving you wrong... this is the cherry on the cake :P
ps..."stalking" ??? in your wildest paranoid schizophrenic fantasies champ... mahahaha...If people disagree with you please don't search for other angles for why they do.... its usually the most obvious ie... you spoke some nonsense.
Time is is a human intervention, it isn't natural that there are so many seconds in a minute, number of minutes in an hour etc, that is all man made. I never said it would run out, I just said one day it will just become so pointless and tedious to write down the year that they might as well go back to the start, like if the world and us are still going and its year 98826542879346289642837647649836498326489372648297 648732649837264983724698372649873264983726498326.

Also you don't have to agree with what you write, its called writing what other peoples perspectives are. If you can't see that then you're the thick one not me.

Also I couldn't give a flying ****** if someone agrees with me or not, I'm just saying with you you seem to follow the same few people around constantly quoting and just posting snide little remarks and I'm not the only person that has noticed that. You also pick on small things and most of the time you have no idea what you're on about but will side with someone else and take what they write as gospel.

NettoSuperstar! 12-03-2009 11:47 AM

lol@"no idea what hes on about"...i think you'll find Ange is a fellow critical thinker, not a bandwagon jumper

Tom 12-03-2009 11:57 AM

... after a lot of selective reading and deciding who to pull apart.

NettoSuperstar! 12-03-2009 12:04 PM

...after weighing up an argument and noticing someones said summat mental!

ange7 12-03-2009 10:14 PM

ta Netto ... oh and thanks Tom for setting me straight ....so one day we will run out of numbers and we'll have to start naming the years all of again. And if anyone doesn't believe that science well Tom has thought of you too "9882654287934628964283764764983649832648937264829 7648732649837264983724698372649873264983726498326" !!!!! proof!! hehe... numbers are big!!!
mahahahaha

dude.. numbers are infinite! ie think of the largest number you can.... now add 1!. ... run out of numbers?

ps our sun will burn for 5 billion years before it turns into a red dwarf star and destroys Earth. eg 5,000,000,000 ..... so sleep well, confident in the knowledge that we have the numbers.

I feel like the fat kid in Willy Wonkas factory hehe


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