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SoFarSoGood282 06-07-2009 10:59 PM

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Originally posted by Gavin
Do you think Marcus will get evicted due to his racist comments towards Sree?

When he mimicked Sree's accent, is was disgusting.

I felt so strongly against it, that I complained to Ofcom regarding the situation.

I think it was a travesty that he was not ejected from the house and given just a warning.

He even threatened Sree outside of the house, which Alex got ejected for last year.

Will this affect his chances and get him evicted?
Ofcom must recieve an unbelievable amount of letters off you!! You seem to complain about everything!

PaulyJ 06-07-2009 10:59 PM

This is why i love BB where else would the British Public be able to discuss this kind of thing.

Ultimitly Racism is about intention not action, and although Marcus's action could of been used by someone intending Racism, i dont think his intention was to be Racist

First they argued, then came anger from Marcus, along with the mimicking of Sree's accent. Sree's accent is very strong and very unusual, i often find myself mimicking his voice whilst i'm sat watching, in a funny way, not a nasty way. Unfortunatly mimicking a foreign accent in a angry fashion reminds people of Racism. It was Not Racism in a million years.

Gavin 06-07-2009 11:00 PM

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Originally posted by SoFarSoGood282
Quote:

Originally posted by Gavin
Do you think Marcus will get evicted due to his racist comments towards Sree?

When he mimicked Sree's accent, is was disgusting.

I felt so strongly against it, that I complained to Ofcom regarding the situation.

I think it was a travesty that he was not ejected from the house and given just a warning.

He even threatened Sree outside of the house, which Alex got ejected for last year.

Will this affect his chances and get him evicted?
Ofcom must recieve an unbelievable amount of letters off you!! You seem to complain about everything!
I've complained more than a dozen times already.

Here is my letter to Ofcom about Marcus:

To Ofcom,

I am writing to you regarding Big Brother and the behaviour of the 35 year old housemate Marcus Atkin.

On Friday’s edition of Big Brother, he threatened physical violence against the other housemate Sree Dasari. Sree was shaken by the insult, even telling Marcus that he will “call the police” if such an incident does happen.

I am shocked that Big Brother did not remove Marcus from the house for his comments, because it was clearly in breach of the Big Brother rules. Furthermore, last year Alexandra DeGale was removed from the house for a similar situation, therefore suggesting the same action should have been taken on Marcus.

Secondly, Marcus was racially aggravating Sree by mimicking his accent. In our society today, this sort of treatment is completely unacceptable, and it seems Big Brother has not learned from its mistakes from the 2007 race row.

I am disgusted that Big Brother did not take action against Marcus for his racist comments, and I feel his actions were in breach of broadcasting regulations.

I would like a reply regarding this hurtful matter, which has deeply affected my concern for the wellbeing of the housemates in there.

I hope the investigation carried out results in Marcus being thrown out of the house and for Channel 4/Endemol to be fined for their lack of authority.

Gavin

andyman 06-07-2009 11:03 PM

Gavin is taking the pi*s..

If not then he needs to go out and get laid.

Sad man.

Gavin 06-07-2009 11:05 PM

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Originally posted by andyman
Gavin is taking the pi*s..

If not then he needs to go out and get laid.

Sad man.
I've been laid many times. :thumbs:

SoFarSoGood282 06-07-2009 11:05 PM

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Originally posted by Gavin
Quote:

Originally posted by SoFarSoGood282
Quote:

Originally posted by Gavin
Do you think Marcus will get evicted due to his racist comments towards Sree?

When he mimicked Sree's accent, is was disgusting.

I felt so strongly against it, that I complained to Ofcom regarding the situation.

I think it was a travesty that he was not ejected from the house and given just a warning.

He even threatened Sree outside of the house, which Alex got ejected for last year.

Will this affect his chances and get him evicted?
Ofcom must recieve an unbelievable amount of letters off you!! You seem to complain about everything!
I've complained more than a dozen times already.

Here is my letter to Ofcom about Marcus:

To Ofcom,

I am writing to you regarding Big Brother and the behaviour of the 35 year old housemate Marcus Atkin.

On Friday’s edition of Big Brother, he threatened physical violence against the other housemate Sree Dasari. Sree was shaken by the insult, even telling Marcus that he will “call the police” if such an incident does happen.

I am shocked that Big Brother did not remove Marcus from the house for his comments, because it was clearly in breach of the Big Brother rules. Furthermore, last year Alexandra DeGale was removed from the house for a similar situation, therefore suggesting the same action should have been taken on Marcus.

Secondly, Marcus was racially aggravating Sree by mimicking his accent. In our society today, this sort of treatment is completely unacceptable, and it seems Big Brother has not learned from its mistakes from the 2007 race row.

I am disgusted that Big Brother did not take action against Marcus for his racist comments, and I feel his actions were in breach of broadcasting regulations.

I would like a reply regarding this hurtful matter, which has deeply affected my concern for the wellbeing of the housemates in there.

I hope the investigation carried out results in Marcus being thrown out of the house and for Channel 4/Endemol to be fined for their lack of authority.

Gavin
This guy has to be messing.....
Its a wind up!

vesavius 06-07-2009 11:06 PM

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Originally posted by PaulyJ

Ultimitly Racism is about intention not action

Wise words.

No word or action is in itself racist, homephobic, or whatever... Only the intent behind them can be.

I wish more people got this.

vesavius 06-07-2009 11:06 PM

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Originally posted by Gavin
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Originally posted by andyman
Gavin is taking the pi*s..

If not then he needs to go out and get laid.

Sad man.
I've been laid many times. :thumbs:
partners that you have to make wear wellies on their back feet dont count...

dennissabre 06-07-2009 11:08 PM

Why are people feeding this idiot?


As i said in my earlier post....switch it off if it offends you so much

I'm switching you off now as your Ofcom threads are boring the crap out of me. :sleep:

Gavin 06-07-2009 11:08 PM

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Originally posted by vesavius
Quote:

Originally posted by Gavin
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Originally posted by andyman
Gavin is taking the pi*s..

If not then he needs to go out and get laid.

Sad man.
I've been laid many times. :thumbs:
partners that you have to make wear wellies on their back feet dont count...
Lol. I've been married 32 years and have 3 kids.

power2thepeople 06-07-2009 11:09 PM

I find it really offensive when people pick and choose what is deemed offensive in society at the expense of other groups and cultures. Ever heard of the Disability Culture? Regardless of whether Halfwit made a complaint or not, I personally found it damn despicable that Sree mocked his dyslexia. Sree thrived on patronising quips, mocking other housemates intelligence with his pathetic mathmatical conundrums thrown into every argument he had. That, coupled with his blatant and shameful mockery of a 'dyslexic student' highlighted just how he feels about disabilities.
You can excuse halfwit's lack of complaint all you want, but mockery of a middle class accent was also a standard in there. Middle class values can be construed as a 'culture'. Where are you drawing your lines here. Or are we only pin-pointing positive race relations as a bone of contention. Despite his foul mouthed tirade at BB, Marcus made very valid points in his reply to BB and the fact they made it very clear his warning was regarding the 'outside' threat, tells me that BB themselves know damn well they are protecting some and excusing the bullying and mockery of others in there. According to your warped logic, Halfwit and his middle-class accent and his dyslexia are fair game to be mocked, purely because he hasn't played his 'culture' cards and screamed victim. I could't disagree more with you

Alf 06-07-2009 11:10 PM

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Originally posted by Gavin
Quote:

Originally posted by SoFarSoGood282
Quote:

Originally posted by Gavin
Do you think Marcus will get evicted due to his racist comments towards Sree?

When he mimicked Sree's accent, is was disgusting.

I felt so strongly against it, that I complained to Ofcom regarding the situation.

I think it was a travesty that he was not ejected from the house and given just a warning.

He even threatened Sree outside of the house, which Alex got ejected for last year.

Will this affect his chances and get him evicted?
Ofcom must recieve an unbelievable amount of letters off you!! You seem to complain about everything!
I've complained more than a dozen times already.

Here is my letter to Ofcom about Marcus:

To Ofcom,

I am writing to you regarding Big Brother and the behaviour of the 35 year old housemate Marcus Atkin.

On Friday’s edition of Big Brother, he threatened physical violence against the other housemate Sree Dasari. Sree was shaken by the insult, even telling Marcus that he will “call the police” if such an incident does happen.

I am shocked that Big Brother did not remove Marcus from the house for his comments, because it was clearly in breach of the Big Brother rules. Furthermore, last year Alexandra DeGale was removed from the house for a similar situation, therefore suggesting the same action should have been taken on Marcus.

Secondly, Marcus was racially aggravating Sree by mimicking his accent. In our society today, this sort of treatment is completely unacceptable, and it seems Big Brother has not learned from its mistakes from the 2007 race row.

I am disgusted that Big Brother did not take action against Marcus for his racist comments, and I feel his actions were in breach of broadcasting regulations.

I would like a reply regarding this hurtful matter, which has deeply affected my concern for the wellbeing of the housemates in there.

I hope the investigation carried out results in Marcus being thrown out of the house and for Channel 4/Endemol to be fined for their lack of authority.

Gavin
people like you are whats wrong with the state of britain today.

google 06-07-2009 11:12 PM

I do think Marcus is a racist ,sexist pig! he should go soon there is no way he will win Big brother! :mad:

Thriller 06-07-2009 11:12 PM

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Originally posted by kisywisy
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Originally posted by Gavin
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Originally posted by 30stone
lol, its not racist!

The threatening yes he could have possibly, but what he said mimiciming him, no.

And they would have by now so nah they wont.
It was clearly racism.

Imagine if you were working and you talked to another employee like that, mimicking their accent, especially a foreginer.

You'd be sacked instantly.

It's totally unacceptable behaviour.
i work with scottish, english, welsh, irish and polish people. we all mimic each other's accent
I guess you are not working in Britain.Maybe you are working in Timbuktu.In Britain if you mimmic other peoples accent at work(British or non-British) there is a high possibility that you might loose your job.

Gavin 06-07-2009 11:13 PM

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Originally posted by google
I do think Marcus is a racist ,sexist pig! he should go soon there is no way he will win Big brother! :mad:
Hear hear.

I am absolutely certain he'll get evicted on Friday.

Too many people would have been (rightly) offended by his racial and agressive remarks.

PaulyJ 06-07-2009 11:14 PM

"racially aggravating"

Well technically i suppose he was, i.e mimicking his race's accent being the "Racially" bit and Marcus's anger torward Sree, being the "Aggravating" bit but if Sree had of been Welsh, then the same label could of been placed on the incident, but would that mean Marcus was being angry at Sree because he was Welsh. I think you have to look further into incidents like this because calling Racist to quickly has the same effect as the boy crying wolf and, incidents that are serious abuses can be overlooked. I hope they do not uphold pt 2 of your complaint, but they may well do

30stone 06-07-2009 11:17 PM

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Originally posted by Gavin
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Originally posted by wannashag
Quote:

Originally posted by Gavin
Do you think Marcus will get evicted due to his racist comments towards Sree?

When he mimicked Sree's accent, is was disgusting.

I felt so strongly against it, that I complained to Ofcom regarding the situation.

I think it was a travesty that he was not ejected from the house and given just a warning.

He even threatened Sree outside of the house, which Alex got ejected for last year.

Will this affect his chances and get him evicted?
do you also think kris should be booted out for mocking halfwits accent or do you think that because halfwit is a white british person that it is totaly acceptable to mock his accent.
But mocking someone else's accent of the same race is not racism.

Needless to say, Halfwit did not complain about the whole "sonny jim" saga.

However, the only Asian housemate in there was targetted by Marcus. Out of any one in the house, he chose the one person who was Asian.

Sree was obviously very hurt by the comments and said instantly "don't talk in my language".

It's clearly inherent racism, and hopefully Marcus will pay the price.
1) Just because he didnt complain didnt make Freddie feel any better, on the inside he could feel very hurt, as it is discrimination.

2) Sree tried acting the victim so he would get kicked out.. and he knew that people would find it offensive.

3) Sree was targeted because he was annoying and a twat to marcus, hence why marcus targetted him.

google 06-07-2009 11:18 PM

Quote:

I do think Marcus is a racist ,sexist pig! he should go soon there is no way he will win Big brother! :mad:
Hear hear.

I am absolutely certain he'll get evicted on Friday.

Too many people would have been (rightly) offended by his racial and agressive remarks. [/quote]

If he does not go on Friday he will go soon and trust me he will not win b.b!

Alf 06-07-2009 11:19 PM

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Originally posted by power2thepeople
I find it really offensive when people pick and choose what is deemed offensive in society at the expense of other groups and cultures. Ever heard of the Disability Culture? Regardless of whether Halfwit made a complaint or not, I personally found it damn despicable that Sree mocked his dyslexia. Sree thrived on patronising quips, mocking other housemates intelligence with his pathetic mathmatical conundrums thrown into every argument he had. That, coupled with his blatant and shameful mockery of a 'dyslexic student' highlighted just how he feels about disabilities.
You can excuse halfwit's lack of complaint all you want, but mockery of a middle class accent was also a standard in there. Middle class values can be construed as a 'culture'. Where are you drawing your lines here. Or are we only pin-pointing positive race relations as a bone of contention. Despite his foul mouthed tirade at BB, Marcus made very valid points in his reply to BB and the fact they made it very clear his warning was regarding the 'outside' threat, tells me that BB themselves know damn well they are protecting some and excusing the bullying and mockery of others in there. According to your warped logic, Halfwit and his middle-class accent and his dyslexia are fair game to be mocked, purely because he hasn't played his 'culture' cards and screamed victim. I could't disagree more with you
:thumbs:great post
lets see if gavin the racist replys to you

Gavin 06-07-2009 11:22 PM

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Originally posted by wannashag
Quote:

Originally posted by power2thepeople
I find it really offensive when people pick and choose what is deemed offensive in society at the expense of other groups and cultures. Ever heard of the Disability Culture? Regardless of whether Halfwit made a complaint or not, I personally found it damn despicable that Sree mocked his dyslexia. Sree thrived on patronising quips, mocking other housemates intelligence with his pathetic mathmatical conundrums thrown into every argument he had. That, coupled with his blatant and shameful mockery of a 'dyslexic student' highlighted just how he feels about disabilities.
You can excuse halfwit's lack of complaint all you want, but mockery of a middle class accent was also a standard in there. Middle class values can be construed as a 'culture'. Where are you drawing your lines here. Or are we only pin-pointing positive race relations as a bone of contention. Despite his foul mouthed tirade at BB, Marcus made very valid points in his reply to BB and the fact they made it very clear his warning was regarding the 'outside' threat, tells me that BB themselves know damn well they are protecting some and excusing the bullying and mockery of others in there. According to your warped logic, Halfwit and his middle-class accent and his dyslexia are fair game to be mocked, purely because he hasn't played his 'culture' cards and screamed victim. I could't disagree more with you
:thumbs:great post
lets see if gavin the racist replys to you
I'm completely against racists.

You calling me a racist has no foundation at all. It's a hugely ridiculous thing to aim at me, when I've said nothing of a racial slur at all.

On the other hand, Marcus mimicked an Asian's person's accent and in the real world such a job, he'd be sacked.

Thriller 06-07-2009 11:28 PM

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Originally posted by wannashag
Quote:

Originally posted by power2thepeople
I find it really offensive when people pick and choose what is deemed offensive in society at the expense of other groups and cultures. Ever heard of the Disability Culture? Regardless of whether Halfwit made a complaint or not, I personally found it damn despicable that Sree mocked his dyslexia. Sree thrived on patronising quips, mocking other housemates intelligence with his pathetic mathmatical conundrums thrown into every argument he had. That, coupled with his blatant and shameful mockery of a 'dyslexic student' highlighted just how he feels about disabilities.
You can excuse halfwit's lack of complaint all you want, but mockery of a middle class accent was also a standard in there. Middle class values can be construed as a 'culture'. Where are you drawing your lines here. Or are we only pin-pointing positive race relations as a bone of contention. Despite his foul mouthed tirade at BB, Marcus made very valid points in his reply to BB and the fact they made it very clear his warning was regarding the 'outside' threat, tells me that BB themselves know damn well they are protecting some and excusing the bullying and mockery of others in there. According to your warped logic, Halfwit and his middle-class accent and his dyslexia are fair game to be mocked, purely because he hasn't played his 'culture' cards and screamed victim. I could't disagree more with you
:thumbs:great post
lets see if gavin the racist replys to you
Mimicking anybodys accent is not acceptable behaviour.The person who is doing it should be made to pay a price.This should be taught to our children.Period.

PaulyJ 06-07-2009 11:28 PM

Forget your comparison with work, Businesses have tribunals, and court cases, bad publicity, minority targets to worry about and thus, they are PC at it's worst. You dont have to worry about all that stuff, none of us do. complain about the treatment of Freddie, or Sree's groaping of Noirin, certainly his threat to Sree, but the race card should not be played here.

uvhater 06-07-2009 11:30 PM

I don't think Marcus was being racist, he was just sick of Sree being a ... prat. Still convinced Marcus was jealous of Sree's relationship with Norin. Good sign was that he did stay seated and didn't threaten any violence.

Gavin 06-07-2009 11:30 PM

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Originally posted by PaulyJ
Forget your comparison with work, Businesses have tribunals, and court cases, bad publicity, minority targets to worry about and thus, they are PC at it's worst. You dont have to worry about all that stuff, none of us do. complain about the treatment of Freddie, or Sree's groaping of Noirin, certainly his threat to Sree, but the race card should not be played here.
I have already complained about those things you've mentioned.

I've written more than a dozen letters to Ofcom already.

power2thepeople 06-07-2009 11:32 PM

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Originally posted by Gavin
Quote:

Originally posted by wannashag
Quote:

Originally posted by power2thepeople
I find it really offensive when people pick and choose what is deemed offensive in society at the expense of other groups and cultures. Ever heard of the Disability Culture? Regardless of whether Halfwit made a complaint or not, I personally found it damn despicable that Sree mocked his dyslexia. Sree thrived on patronising quips, mocking other housemates intelligence with his pathetic mathmatical conundrums thrown into every argument he had. That, coupled with his blatant and shameful mockery of a 'dyslexic student' highlighted just how he feels about disabilities.
You can excuse halfwit's lack of complaint all you want, but mockery of a middle class accent was also a standard in there. Middle class values can be construed as a 'culture'. Where are you drawing your lines here. Or are we only pin-pointing positive race relations as a bone of contention. Despite his foul mouthed tirade at BB, Marcus made very valid points in his reply to BB and the fact they made it very clear his warning was regarding the 'outside' threat, tells me that BB themselves know damn well they are protecting some and excusing the bullying and mockery of others in there. According to your warped logic, Halfwit and his middle-class accent and his dyslexia are fair game to be mocked, purely because he hasn't played his 'culture' cards and screamed victim. I could't disagree more with you
:thumbs:great post
lets see if gavin the racist replys to you
I'm completely against racists.

You calling me a racist has no foundation at all. It's a hugely ridiculous thing to aim at me, when I've said nothing of a racial slur at all.

On the other hand, Marcus mimicked an Asian's person's accent and in the real world such a job, he'd be sacked.
As would mocking a person's disabilities or any other part of their 'culture', inclusive of class. Please look up the word 'culture' and you will find that it does not consist purely of 'race'. As BB made quite clear.....the points discussed were any intended mockery of a housemates 'culture'. Therefore by definition of the word 'culture' I would say Sree should be picking up his P45. You have still not answered the question posed to you, nor have you justified Sree's despicable behaviour. Because you can't. It's a tunnel vision 'race' issue for you. Hence why some people are regarding you as a racist, by definition of the fact you seem to be protective of this issue alone. Like I said....define the word 'culture' and it may enlighten you as to why some people are making negative comments about your posts.


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