Aye, I love old fashioned British humour, moder British humour isnt as good, and I have to admit, Scrubs is one of the funniest comedies I have ever seen, and its American

They dont! I know that for a fact, from having lived there. They are totally oblivious to whats going on in the state next to them, let alone the rest of the world.
Thats just the way it is.
But imo, they produce, some of the best TV shows in the world. But Americans definitely over produce, due to all the diferent TV networks. I personally think most british TV shows are craap, so do people I know, from Africa, France, Canada, even India. BUt to each their own, I have no problem with that. I watch some TV shows here, but hardly any.

Of course not. Thats because you are examining the upper echelons of society. I think most people in this thread are thinking of the typical ''gawd bless America'' American of conservative suburbia. And there politics are rotten to the very core man.

Always preferred English & Irish music and literature, but that's just opinion of course.

These days, Britain produces the boring, generic rock bands. America produces the whingey, whinney, shitlicking ones [see : Paramore].

I'll just say this: To the American-bashing Irish here, I'll bring it back to my earlier point: America has produced some of the world's greatest leaders in politics, civil rights, entertainment, and math/science. America and its culture pervades nearly every aspect of your life everyday in a major way, not only on a humor level. Ireland's claim to fame is Bono and the potato famine.

Just like the great quote says, "When America sneezes the whole world catches a cold."

What on earth has that got to do with culture? Your talking about political and social awareness. Not culture. Of course Americans have culture. It is the most dominant culture in the world!

I'm not getting involved in this argument but did you actually say what I think you said with regard to Ireland?

OK, I think I got it crossed because I translated a frenc expression (Culture generale), which basically means, your knowledge of the world's culture. So I guess its not the right thing to say in English. I thought it was.

You DO know most of us don't actually WANT to catch what America spreads and actively resent it?

And you DO you know anything about your own country? The Irish have a huge political and social dynasty in all aspects of American life. A large percentage of Americans claim either German or Irish ancestry. We built quiet a lot of the east coast.

Come to think of it, you Americans are incredibly young. Your all just comprised of transplants from other countries. What is an American? You are US! And you just proved what everybody has been saying in this thread about the sheer ignorance of your country :

The Irish only gave the world Bono & The Potato Famine? I bashed the underbelly of America when acknowledging and respecting it's great achievements and dominant culture. You claim Ireland just gave the world Bono and a Famine.

Read some ****ing Joyce and get back to me.

Each country has its own possibility for criticism in a certain sect.

America has 304,059,724 people.
The UK has 60,943,912 people.
Ireland has 4,156,119 people.

Since America has more than 75x the amount of people in Ireland, there are more chances for criticism. The entire world has radically religious groups too, except it's magnified because of the magnitude of people in America and the world-focus on American affairs.

By the way, if you're trying to make out that Americans are unsophisticated, please learn the difference between "their" and "there" before you ridicule us.

Its a joke!!!! See, they dont get your humor, you dont get theirs! :rolleyes:

Again, it was a joke. THe irony, of how the Americans dont get British humor.

Yes I did. I was being as ignorant as the Irish are to the Americans in this thread. But they didn't seem to mind.

[QUOTE=Wildcat!;2622383]DUmbass! YOu assume that I am from London? ANd you call people stupid. For your info, I am from Africa. And I have spent 5 years in France, french is my native language, and we are a french colony, so basically close culture. And I have lived 10 years in the US.
Because someone lives in London, you think they are from here? Idiot!!
[QUOTE]

Oh what you expect me to know every ****ing country you`ve been to?

It says on your Location Status, your in London!
If you dont want people assuming your from their then you might aswell write all 5 Countries you`ve been to!

Never did try to make that out. And never claimed to be a spelling bee. Your really bad at this, aren't you?

And this is from the country that changes English words and there accepted spelling for entirely no reason?

[QUOTE=Patrick;2622447][QUOTE=Wildcat!;2622383]DUmbass! YOu assume that I am from London? ANd you call people stupid. For your info, I am from Africa. And I have spent 5 years in France, french is my native language, and we are a french colony, so basically close culture. And I have lived 10 years in the US.
Because someone lives in London, you think they are from here? Idiot!!

Idiot!!!

Stereotype LOL

But i completely understand where your coming from.

Maybe you don't understand the meaning of the quote, when America suffers the world does as well. And yes I do know the history of my country, but to be honest, the Irish took just as much part in building America than any other country. I'm not saying that Ireland did nothing, I'm just saying it doesn't deserve recognition over other countries for "building a large part of the east coast". If we're talking in that sense, the English did.

America is a melting pot, but what's funny is that you're basically bashing a culture that your people created. And glad you picked up on the ignorance of my comment, but you were magnifying the "Gawd Bless America" perspective to represent the entire country. I hardly call what you've been saying "acknowledging and respecting its great achievements and dominant culture", but either: a) I'm getting the anti-Americans mixed up in this thread or b) it's "humor" that my silly American mind doesn't understand.

Another thing that irritates me, that the british people say, it was dumbed down for the american audience. WHo the Fcuk says that?
The fact is, they dont find most british shows, or program, because they find it boring. I find most of them boring. YOu guys dont because you are used to it. Go talk to some British who have grown up in the US, and see what they think. GO ask people what their favorite TV shows are, and see what they say, even here in the UK.

I am not American, I have been exposed to their culture, and I have been exposed to the British culture as well. But I call it, how I see, it. At least, over there, I didnt have to deal with snobbery.

:laugh: :laugh:

The whole of America is a ****ing joke!

Thats a joke Everyone in the world will get seeing as Americans seem to have pissed a country of one way or another!

And to the person who said Irelands 'Claim to fame is Bono and U2'

That just proves how you think every country Wants to be 'Famous' in the way America is,

Countries like Ireland and England arent as self centered and In your face, as America is!

Thats why Ireland dosent need to have Hundreds of Superstars and Cheesy Movies to be a good country!

Just look at that thread posted yesterday about Ireland being the best Country to live in, Is America even on the Top 10?

Nope,

Like some other American said in this thread..

"As the Good Old saying goes, When America Sneezes the Whole World gets a cold"

:joker: Its not a GOOD OLD Saying, but I find it funny how Americans take that as a compliment, that proves how America think there the only country in the world just because they have alot of people!

I think it's a cultural thing really. America is a relatively new country and with that comes a certain youthful naivety in how they live their lives and express themselves. They don't have the trials of history that weigh heavily on European's minds and so they refuse to look at the more grey areas of life, and instead ride out in pursuit of their dreams and ideals.

I'm actually rather fond of this trait that can be found in many Americans but it sometimes makes them very rigid in how they approach life, incapable or unwilling to accept or understand other ways of life. They don't like to dwell on the darkness... on the chaos that's lurking within us all, which means that some of our humour and idiosyncrasies are lost on them - bewildering to them even. They're an insular kind of nation really.

Bless, he is trying to communicate.




I say :

''I think most people in this thread are thinking of the typical ''gawd bless America'' American of conservative suburbia. And there politics are rotten to the very core man.''




You say :

''You were magnifying the "Gawd Bless America" perspective to represent the entire country.''




Compare and contrast. I was clearly never blanketing the whole of America. It's your problem that you think I was. And it's your problem that you fought this with reverse ignorance. And it's your problem if you think today's American culture is something the Irish created.

A total of 36,495,800 Americans (more than 12% of total population) reported Irish ancestry in the 2006 American Community Survey.

Bono and the potato famine. Christ, I really do get the American style of humor now.

So your trying to say America arent snobs?

:joker:
Their the most big headed, people in the world who think no one else matters but them!

And I have seen alot of Americans on Forums like this who love UK shows that they watch on Youtube,

And have complained how they dont get to watch it in USA,

Yet were forced to have their bullshit shoved in our faces,
Its not just TV Shows,

Its everything even on little Advertisments Its like..

"10 Thousand Americans die of Aids a year (Aids is just an example btw) You can help donate..."


Why the **** does the UK need to know how many Americans die a year?

When we have our own problems

Ireland has in absolute hole to live in right now. Where have you been?

I completely disagree with this. IN fact, I find that americans, are a lot more flexible, when it comes to accepting other ways of life. I felt a lot more comfortable, and accepted over there for my origins, and culture, than I ever did over here. YOu have to comform a lot more in Britain than you do in the US. Granted, when they first meet you in the US, generally, they are pretty ignorant of other people's culture, usually die to lack of exposure. BUt they are very willing to learn, and are a lot more accepting. The fact that its a country of immigrant facilitates that.

The definition of an ignorant member right here.

"That just proves how you think every country Wants to be 'Famous' in the way America is" - That's quite a stretch there. You're analyzing my words too much; "fame" doesn't mean simply in the entertainment industry, it means notoriety. Hitler's famous, but I'd hardly call him an entertainer.

"Countries like Ireland and England arent as self centered and In your face, as America is!" - The members in this thread (including yourself) prove you wrong.

"Thats why Ireland dosent need to have Hundreds of Superstars and Cheesy Movies to be a good country!" - But if they could, they'd jump on it like hell.

"Just look at that thread posted yesterday about Ireland being the best Country to live in, Is America even on the Top 10?" - Irish are the farthest thing from self-centered, eh?

"

:joker: Its not a GOOD OLD Saying, but I find it funny how Americans take that as a compliment, that proves how America think there the only country in the world just because they have alot of people!" - No, we don't think that because we have "alot of people" (grammar mistake there, but I suppose since Ireland's such a great country to live in grammar doesn't matter!), it's because America is the economic center of the world apart from China. I'm not saying our social customs are the greatest, I dislike the Bible Belt as much as anyone else here and I live in it - but economically and politically we are one of the most powerful countries in the world.

This Thread should be Locked.

lol

Depends what part I suppose,

Its great, and this survery about the Most Easiest Country to live in, was done 4 years ago when Ireland was still sort of bad...

Now though 4 years later I think if that Survey was to be done again, Ireland would still win because its still a great place and getting better

Sorry, getting you and your fellow Irishman mixed up in some quotes.

Surely people of Irish ancestry (as well as every other ancestry in the world) are pioneering today's culture, so no need to flash the fact that 12% of Americans claim Irish ancestry.

I agree, its getting out of hand

of course you have seen a lot of Americans on youtube complaining about it. Its only natural. Who goes on Youtube to watch UK shows? The people who are interested in the British shows of course. NAturally they will be complaining. But thats a minority of people. There are always exception to the rule. The average audience, doesnt go on Youtube to look for UK shows.

ANd guess what, you have the U TV shows shoved down your throat, because people want to watch them. If people didnt, it wouldnt be on your screen. Same reason why the UK shows arent on TV asede from some specialised networks, because people dont want to watch them.

No, its accually Alright
Nothing else to do for the next hour im waiting for somthing to come on TV

I'm generalising here of course but I would disagree with you on this to a certain extent. There's still huge class divisions in America and they're far more draconian in how they hand out punishments, especially towards the lower classes. You were a foreigner to them and so they were obviously more welcoming.

But anyway my main point is in attitudes we're hugely different... in how we live our lives. America is the be all and end all to most Americans. That's very true.

This is exactly what I mean!! This type of attitude is what I find deplorable.

I'll close this thread, since I am a moderator. It was nice to get into somewhat of a debate with ProbeEight, and it was nice to read the humorous comments of Patrick.

Different strokes for different folks, but remember don't be bigots when it comes to other cultures or stereotype people based on their country.