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Jords 02-01-2010 03:29 PM

I guess the things were taught in school is just made up **** too :rolleyes:

Stu 02-01-2010 03:32 PM

A lot of it is, really. Or exagerrated. Or only shown from one side. You can't honestly tell me that the whole anti drugs thing is looking out for your health when alcohol and tobacco are the legal ones.

Captain.Remy 02-01-2010 03:32 PM

Stu belongs to the Cannabis debate as much as I belong to the Smoking one.

We already had that debate about a thousand times already. I'm tired to explain this one again but I basically agree with what Stu has been saying on the matter. I had my "weed" moments because I was 16, it was new and fresh. Now, it's time to time, when I feel it, it's not bad.

Shaun 02-01-2010 03:33 PM

Have smoked it before, don't really have the wherewithal to smoke it on a regular basis...but I have no problem with it. I prefer getting stoned to drunk, I don't get sick, I don't turn into an obnoxious twat and I don't have to stand in a club playing T-Pain's 'Low'.

Stu 02-01-2010 03:33 PM

Instead you sit down and everyone talks about Prince's early material when eating ice cream.

Shaun 02-01-2010 03:34 PM

Exactly, it's win-win.

Jords 02-01-2010 03:36 PM

I see good points of legalising it and I see bad points. And imo the bad points way over shine the good ones so it should be kept illegal.

If you smoke cannabis, make sure you stick with cannabis and not move onto worse things people :thumbs:

Stu 02-01-2010 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jords (Post 2819081)
I see good points of legalising it and I see bad points. And imo the bad points way over shine the good ones so it should be kept illegal.

If you smoke cannabis, make sure you stick with cannabis and not move onto worse things people :thumbs:

You only listed one bad point and that was not even fact based. There are dozens of good points on the other hand. Less criminal profit, proper age restrictions, safer product, tax money, freeing up jail space, freeing up Police time, and so on and so on and so on.

WOMBAI 02-01-2010 03:44 PM

Made an interesting read - if anyone is interested:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/1146752.stm

Jack_ 02-01-2010 03:46 PM

This debate has happened so many times now, and I'm completely for it. I've never smoked it, nor do I intend to right now, but that's not to say I won't in the future. I don't know. However, based on the points Stu has made in previous discussions about this, and in this thread too, I'm for it. I see no reason whatsoever why it shouldn't be legalised. None whatsoever.

Stu 02-01-2010 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WOMBAI (Post 2819123)
Made an interesting read - if anyone is interested:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/1146752.stm

Look at the groups these studies are targetting. Young people and people who smoke 15 joints a day. Obviously these people are asking for mental illness. But most smokers don't smoke 15 joints a day.

Plus the biggest thing causing the mental illness is poorly grown skunk by criminal gangs - a result of prohibition - which has high levels of THC but low levels of CBD - the other important compound in Cannabis, and a natural andti-psychotic, anti-anxiety agent.

Legalised Cannabis with age restrictions and proper grown weed would have a beneficial effect on the so called psychosis link which is not yet a fact accepted by all scientists.

Plus Cannabis has far more medicinal uses that outweigh this one psycosis thing.

arista 02-01-2010 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 2819079)
Exactly, it's win-win.


Only for a Time.


A Natural High is best on Sex.

xDramatick 02-01-2010 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chels (Post 2818709)
idk i wouldn't try it, i won't even try smoking.
so against it really.

this.

Stu 02-01-2010 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 2819236)
Only for a Time.


A Natural High is best on Sex.

But sex when your stoned is even better than sex :wink:.

arista 02-01-2010 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu (Post 2819242)
But sex when your stoned is even better than sex :wink:.


No it is Not.


You are Hooked.

WOMBAI 02-01-2010 04:15 PM

If there is enough evidence to support its use in certain medical conditions - that should be allowed - but that doesn't mean it should be legalised for recreational purposes - they are two totally different things.

Enid 02-01-2010 04:17 PM

With.

I smoke when I can get my hands on it. I don't have a regular dealer up here and my landlord would kick us out if he knew we were smoking an "illegal drug". :rolleyes:

Stu 02-01-2010 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WOMBAI (Post 2819284)
If there is enough evidence to support its use in certain medicinal conditions - that should be allowed - but that doesn't mean it should be legalised for recreational purposes - they are two totally different things.

Prohibition only makes things worse. It didn't work with alcohol, it's not going to work with weed.

Enid 02-01-2010 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 2819260)
No it is Not.


You are Hooked.

Sorry you cannot be hooked to cannabis. You can love it and want it all the time, but it is not an addictive substance.

30stone 02-01-2010 04:19 PM

http://i622.photobucket.com/albums/t.../mr_mackey.jpg

Listen to Mr. Mackey.

InOne 02-01-2010 04:22 PM

http://unrealitymag.com/wp-content/u.../12/jaybob.bmp

Enid 02-01-2010 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 30stone (Post 2819307)

Drugs are bad at work, definitely. :laugh:

At my last job, a group of us went out to smoke weed during our lunch break. We were out of sight of our colleagues, but my ex who was still bitter about our breakup decided to be a snitch and told our supervisor.

Lemo 02-01-2010 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WOMBAI (Post 2819123)
Made an interesting read - if anyone is interested:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/1146752.stm

you obviously dont listen to the news alot


the ex uk's chief drugs adviser said that cannabis is less harmful than alchole and nicotine also 3 more drug advisers step down because he is right. and the goverment are wrong.

Stu 02-01-2010 04:26 PM

Professor Nutt was also lambasted for publishing a report detailing how equasy is more damaging than Ecstacy even though he was 100% right.

WOMBAI 02-01-2010 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lemo (Post 2819334)
you obviously dont listen to the news alot


the ex uk's chief drugs adviser said that cannabis is less harmful than alchole and nicotine also 3 more drug advisers step down because he is right. and the goverment are wrong.

Well as I don't smoke - and only occasionally have a drink - your point is what exactly!

Personally I don't believe that if people do any of those things to excess - the NHS should foot the bill for resulting illnesses or conditions. It is bogged down as it is - there simply isn't enough money. They should take out insurance to cover any medical costs in the future.

Stu 02-01-2010 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WOMBAI (Post 2819392)
Well as I don't smoke - and only occasionally have a drink - your point is what exactly!

Personally I don't believe that if people do any of those things to excess - the NHS should foot the bill for resulting illnesses or conditions.
It is bogged down as it is - there simply isn't enough money. They should take out insurance to cover any medical costs in the future.

And thats where the tax money made from legal Cannabis is brought in...

30stone 02-01-2010 04:50 PM

Dont see why anyone would like to smoke in general.
Just wait for a cold day, and you can see your breath its just as good.

LOL

Lemo 02-01-2010 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WOMBAI (Post 2819392)
Well as I don't smoke - and only occasionally have a drink - your point is what exactly!

.

who said you have to smoke weed to listen to the news :S

WOMBAI 02-01-2010 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lemo (Post 2819479)
who said you have to smoke weed to listen to the news :S

2 wrongs don't make a right! Even IF smoking and drinking pose more damage to health than smoking Cannabis - doesn't mean that the risks of smoking Cannibis - are therefore acceptable!

Jords 02-01-2010 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WOMBAI (Post 2819527)
2 wrongs don't make a right! Even IF smoking and drinking pose more damage to health than smoking Cannabis - doesn't mean that the risks of smoking Cannibis - are therefore acceptable!

Couldnt agree more!

Stu 02-01-2010 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WOMBAI (Post 2819527)
2 wrongs don't make a right! Even IF smoking and drinking pose more damage to health than smoking Cannabis - doesn't mean that the risks of smoking Cannibis - are therefore acceptable!

Yes but the risks go down considerably with legalisation.

Lemo 02-01-2010 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WOMBAI (Post 2819527)
2 wrongs don't make a right! Even IF smoking and drinking pose more damage to health than smoking Cannabis - doesn't mean that the risks of smoking Cannibis - are therefore acceptable!


who da fuk sed i was being "right" sorry im more aggressive and arguementive when im drunk but sorry me and stu are winning this "debate"

WOMBAI 02-01-2010 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lemo (Post 2821016)
who da fuk sed i was being "right" sorry im more aggressive and arguementive when im drunk but sorry me and stu are winning this "debate"

I beg to differ! :hugesmile:

Jords 02-01-2010 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WOMBAI (Post 2821329)
I beg to differ! :hugesmile:

Me and Wombai ftw! :laugh:

WOMBAI 03-01-2010 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jords (Post 2821350)
Me and Wombai ftw! :laugh:

:thumbs:

Lemo 03-01-2010 12:16 AM

me nd stu ftw.

oioi stu u wana spliff frm surrey 1 tyme?

Stu 05-01-2010 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WOMBAI (Post 2821329)
I beg to differ! :hugesmile:

Shame we havn't heard much of a retort back, then. If your going to big yourself up as 'winning' a debate at least have something to fall back on.

WOMBAI 05-01-2010 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu (Post 2831703)
Shame we havn't heard much of a retort back, then. If your going to big yourself up as 'winning' a debate at least have something to fall back on.

What, one argument at a time not enough for you! :joker:

Your really do like to see yourself as some sort of master debater - one of the few in possession of all the knowledge and facts. Personally, lost interest in this particular debate. You will always think you know better on this one - it could go on to the wee small hours - and haven't got time today!

Stu 05-01-2010 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WOMBAI (Post 2831754)
What, one argument at a time not enough for you! :joker:

Your really do like to see yourself as some sort of master debater - one of the few in possession of all the knowledge and facts. Personally, lost interest in this particular debate. You will always think you know better on this one - it could go on to the wee small hours - and haven't got time today!

No it's just I made my last point that you did not argue back on yet you still felt compelled to big yourself up which I found strange. Remember, I'm not the master debater who said I was winning anything ...

WOMBAI 05-01-2010 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu (Post 2831789)
No it's just I made my last point that you did not argue back on yet you still felt compelled to big yourself up which I found strange. Remember, I'm not the master debater who said I was winning anything ...

Your 'ally' did! I simply responded that I didn't agree! And besides - your responses to other posts usually imply that you think you have 'won' the argument by comments such as "oh dear, it's all falling apart for you".


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