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Braden 10-02-2010 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 2971318)
that doesnt even make sense

I don't think it was intended to make sense, it was said to bother you, which it did :laugh:

Stu 10-02-2010 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 2971318)
that doesnt even make sense

That's because your a fucking moron.

ILoveTRW 10-02-2010 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot (Post 2971324)
That's because your a fucking moron.

why are you so mean :conf:

Smithy 10-02-2010 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot (Post 2971324)
That's because your a fucking moron.

People in glass houses shouldnt throw stones Stu

Patrick 10-02-2010 08:58 PM

OMFG I just found out Stephen Baldwin is Related to that guy from Cat in the Hat.

Of topic, just found it out though and got excited..

Jack_ 10-02-2010 08:59 PM

LOL @ this thread

Captain.Remy 10-02-2010 09:00 PM

Right, I'm going to take this topic on an economic level because it's what I do best (you bitches will be glad when I win the Nobel Prize in Economics :hugesmile:).

So, UK has pretty much been in Europe since the beginning (1973 which is about 20 years after the creation of Europe but still is considered as one of the first countries) so the fact it must belong to the US is out of question.
Furthermore, on an economic aspect, the fact UK doesn't have the same currency isn't a problem in itself as London is the first business place in Europe ahead from Paris, Milan and Frankfurt even though it's the 3rd ranked country in Europe (first is Germany, second is France) so on this aspect, the UK is not depending on the US.
Have you ever heard from the Blue Banana from Liverpool to Milan ? It's the economic heart of Europe, it's where it goes down to. It covers one of the world's highest concentrations of people, money, and industry. It speaks for itself.

I'm talking business and economic facts here. You may not agree but that's not a matter of opinion as it's been proved over and over again that the UK is fully part of Europe, no matter the currency differences. Let's take the Economic crisis as an example: Brown, Sarkozy and Merkel agreed to lead on the same economic policy to get Europe out of its mess so it's a sign UK is Europe.

And this topic is non sense anyway because even on other aspects (social, historic, cultural, ...) it's not the US.

That's it, feel free to comment on that but it's on your behalf, you don't want to challenge my economic skills. :tongue:

arista 10-02-2010 09:04 PM

Wrong
to be in Europe Proper
you must have there money.


And We do not.

http://www.curbside.on.ca/blog/wp-co...08/04/euro.jpg

Patrick 10-02-2010 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 2971376)
Wrong
to be in Europe Proper
you must have there money.


And We do not.

Seriously is stupid how the UK doesnt use the Euro.

REP of Ireland does when I go down there its weird using it, but obviously because im in NI I have to use the stupid Pound.

Tbf it is easier, and I would be confussed if we switched to Euro as I have grown up using the Pound but I would rather the UK just used the Euro like everyone else.

Captain.Remy 10-02-2010 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 2971376)
Wrong
to be in Europe Proper
you must have there money.


And We do not.

Like I said, I'm not talking about cultural differences with other European countries or as to why some European laws cannot be done but on an economic side, it is part of Europe and the fact UK will never change its currency isn't a big deal anymore.
I'm not a pro-Euro either but my opinion doesn't get into the equation this time, the UK will always belong to Europe on every aspect you might like. It is what it is. Fair enough it doesn't have the same currency, but so doesn't Sweden, Denmark, Romania, Poland, Czech Republic, Lithuania, Latvia, Hungary, Estonia or Bulgaria. :thumbs:

Scarlett. 10-02-2010 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Patrick (Post 2971383)
Seriously is stupid how the UK doesnt use the Euro.

REP of Ireland does when I go down there its weird using it, but obviously because im in NI I have to use the stupid Pound.

Tbf it is easier, and I would be confussed if we switched to Euro as I have grown up using the Pound but I would rather the UK just used the Euro like everyone else.

we've used the pound for centuries, why should we change now?

Beastie 10-02-2010 09:23 PM

Keep the pound.

ILoveTRW 10-02-2010 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 2971476)
we've used the pound for centuries, why should we change now?

1971 actually

Patrick 10-02-2010 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 2971476)
we've used the pound for centuries, why should we change now?

I just hate the design lol

I like how it works, its very easy to use and that, The only 2 reasons I think it could change is because I hate the look of it, but thats not the big deal but just because every other country in Europe uses Euro so I was thinking its a little odd we use the Pound you know?

Captain.Remy 10-02-2010 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Patrick (Post 2971502)
I just hate the design lol

I like how it works, its very easy to use and that, The only 2 reasons I think it could change is because I hate the look of it, but thats not the big deal but just because every other country in Europe uses Euro so I was thinking its a little odd we use the Pound you know?

Read my latest post in this thread. :thumbs: UK isn't the only country not using €uro.

arista 10-02-2010 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Patrick (Post 2971383)
Seriously is stupid how the UK doesnt use the Euro.

REP of Ireland does when I go down there its weird using it, but obviously because im in NI I have to use the stupid Pound.

Tbf it is easier, and I would be confussed if we switched to Euro as I have grown up using the Pound but I would rather the UK just used the Euro like everyone else.




Pat
The Pound Ain't Stupid.

Your €uro will have to fund Bankrupt Greece
who are in your Europe.

arista 10-02-2010 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by thebeast (Post 2971483)
Keep the pound.


We are Forever.

ILoveTRW 10-02-2010 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 2971605)
Pat
The Pound Ain't Stupid.

Your €uro will have to fund Bankrupt Greece
who are in your Europe.

exactly, eastern europe pulls the whole of europe down

yes Remy was making a few good points but he was only look at the west

Captain.Remy 10-02-2010 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ILoveDC (Post 2971635)
exactly, eastern europe pulls the whole of europe down

yes Remy was making a few good points but he was only look at the west

Greece is another problem which has been complicated to solve and still is being solved today.
As for Eastern European countries, I'm not especially for them to enter the Europe but what's done is done and it has been the policy of the European Government. Eastern countries don't necessarily take Europe down because they've been helping in a few things such as production and new markets to explore even though it's the rule of "Whoever is richer pays for the poorest" which has taken the lead.
And to be honest, UK has been more of a disaster than Poland and Czech Republic combined which both countries have done quite well. UK and Spain are Europe's biggest disasters due to the Economic crisis.

Scarlett. 10-02-2010 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ILoveDC (Post 2971494)
1971 actually

No, that was when decimilization was brought in

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Anglo-Saxon
Main article: Anglo-Saxon pound

The origins of sterling lie in the reign of King Offa of Mercia, who introduced the silver penny. It copied the denarius of the new currency system of Charlemagne's Frankish Empire. As in the Carolingian system, 240 pennies weighed 1 pound (corresponding to Charlemagne's libra), with the shilling corresponding to Charlemagne's solidus and equal to 12d. At the time of the penny's introduction, it weighed 22.5 troy grains of fine silver (30 tower grains; about 1.5 g, indicating that the Mercian pound weighed 5,400 troy grains (the Mercian pound became the basis of the tower pound, which weighed 5,400 troy grains, equivalent to 7,200 tower grains). At this time, the name sterling had yet to be acquired. The penny swiftly spread throughout the other Anglo-Saxon kingdoms and became the standard coin of what was to become England.
Source

You have been schooled, again, biatch

ILoveTRW 10-02-2010 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 2971720)
No, that was when decimilization was brought in



Source

You have been schooled, again, biatch

nah they still changed it so your original statement is wrong :p

ILoveTRW 10-02-2010 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 2971720)
No, that was when decimilization was brought in



Source

You have been schooled, again, biatch

nah they still changed it so your original statement is wrong :p

Scarlett. 10-02-2010 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ILoveDC (Post 2971777)
nah they still changed it so your original statement is wrong :p

Plenty of currency has changed since its inception, that proves nothing it was called sterling back then, its called sterling now

F
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:3

ILoveTRW 10-02-2010 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 2971797)
Plenty of currency has changed since its inception, that proves nothing it was called sterling back then, its called sterling now

F
A
I
L
:3

you had to just read up about it anyways so you fail

ILoveTRW 10-02-2010 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 2971797)
Plenty of currency has changed since its inception, that proves nothing it was called sterling back then, its called sterling now

F
A
I
L
:3

you had to just read up about it anyways so you fail

ILoveTRW 10-02-2010 10:03 PM

why the **** am i posting two posts at once

Scarlett. 10-02-2010 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ILoveDC (Post 2971811)
you had to just read up about it anyways so you fail

I was right anyway, so I dont see your point, since the debate is about money and not wether or not I research what I say

Captain.Remy 10-02-2010 10:04 PM

Guys, you shouldn't be worried about UK not changing its currency. It's the day they will decide to change it that you must be worried about. :wink:

ILoveTRW 10-02-2010 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain.Remy (Post 2971824)
Guys, you shouldn't be worried about UK not changing its currency. It's the day they will decide to change it that you must be worried about. :wink:

Pounds to Euros is simples

you have to be a ****** for it to give you a mind ****

Captain.Remy 10-02-2010 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ILoveDC (Post 2971852)
Pounds to Euros is simples

you have to be a ****** for it to give you a mind ****

First of all, unless something absolutely awful happens to the UK, the Euro will never be the official currency.
Secondly, bringing Europe wasn't that "simples". Yes it has for Easter European countries as it couldn't get any worse for them but for richer countries, it may not have been so good. Yes, it has increased Europe's strength on the International scene but prices have increased quite badly.

But then, it's out of context as the UK is one special context in itself. Like I said, the day UK will change its currency means it's not good, at all.

Vicky. 10-02-2010 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot (Post 2971173)
I don't think one needs any qualifications to point out what an absoloutely abysmal excuse for a serious debate this is.

:laugh:

Agreed. And moved.

InOne 10-02-2010 10:57 PM

I would like American size portions in McDonalds, our ones are getting to be rip offs

arista 11-02-2010 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by InOne (Post 2972189)
I would like American size portions in McDonalds, our ones are getting to be rip offs


In that case why not change to the Dollar.

Shasown 11-02-2010 08:39 AM

Surely the question should be, "Should we integrate further with Europe or allow Johnny Yank to come snivelling back, like a well whipped bitch and become a county of the UK, or should we treat them as grown ups and let them have the same status as Scotland, a devolved government etc?"

Niamh. 11-02-2010 09:27 AM

This is one the thee most ridiculous threads I've seen here yet!

arsenalforever 11-02-2010 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by InOne (Post 2970866)
Totally different cultures and ways of life. Like imagine if Yorkshire had the death penalty and Lancashire didn't lol

oh what a lovely world that be :)

kill a few hoodies and chavs

Dr.Gonzo 11-02-2010 09:53 AM

They'd never allow it. We don't have guns in every home and we're not anywhere close to being fat enough.

ILoveTRW 11-02-2010 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 2972147)
:laugh:

Agreed. And moved.

how dare you move my thread from the serious debate forum

I am seriously offended

how is this less serious than "Hypatia is dead" and "Should sugar be banned?" and "Pornography is addictive for the male brain"?

Reinstate it now

Vicky. 11-02-2010 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ILoveDC (Post 2973548)
Reinstate it now

Uh...no

ILoveTRW 11-02-2010 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 2973556)
Uh...no

why not?

this is a very serious debate

Stu just came on a ruined it like the **** he is


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