no he's doign it cause the way shes treated Ben and how her attitude stinks

Geez. You don't have to be a fan to defend someone.

What is this BS that keeps being spouted??

I think she's a dry HM. I like HM's with a bit more about them.

Sorry folk we are going to have to disagree on this one. :D I did quite like him, but now he is on my list with Sunshine!

but you are ignoring her bitchy side

yes JJ has it too so does a few others in that house

But saying poor rachael is a bit unfair
you make her sound like she was completely innocent
he told her he didn't like her does that make him bad guy

Welll, it really isn't because he's good looking I think he's right. Having said that I didn't see the LF coverage just him saying it Guvan and I agreed with him then. Purely because I really do think that he's spot on about Rachael. You see how she looks down her nose at people who aren't as pretty or popular as her like she was in school

A few home truths? He doesn't even know the girl! Judgemental prick thinks he knows her life story.

And whether he's right or wrong there was still no need for the way he was attacking her the other night. Just OTT. Even Josie and Govan were shocked at his outburst. He was just being nasty for no good reason.

lets fight abouut it:joker:

both of them bitch but saying one is worse then the other is crazy

what i saw of rachael yesterday put a sour note on her for me

Not at all.

I just think she's being given a harder time than bigger bitches in the house.

I don't like him he has viciously attacked the girl and has kept on going abt it all he has said in the past 24 hours is bitch abt her and people are going to side with him coz they dnt like rachel which is not fair he said he would give her a second chance but went straight back into bitching abt her

govan shouldn't be shocked by anybodys behaviour but his own
he's around everywhere there's a fight

He told her he didn't like her and it didn't seem bad to me

No one is going to agree all of the time, that would be dull as ditch water!

no govan and shabby are far bigger bitches
and seen that litle twerp get invovled is sickening

true

it depends on her gets the best edit tongiht on H/l's

lol exactly! It was perfectly fine for Guvan to say he didn't like Sunshine but then she isn't a pretty, popular girl like Rachael :joker:

I think JJ is intimidated by strong feisty women like Rachael. Like Govan he's a bit stuttery Ive noticed. Issues issues.

And Rachael gets on well with most of the HMs so I don't know where all this looking down her nose at people comes from.

OH MY GOD! lol, I hope you aren;t suggesting that I don;t like sunshine cause she isn't pretty! :devil: :hugesmile:

nope...well maybe:joker:

i think most of the people complaining cause they ahven't seen the LF

lol No, I meant Guvan!!! that he thinks it's ok for him to say he didn't like Sunshine but it's not ok for JJ to say the same about pretty Rachael!!:hugesmile:

It's all in the facial expression Zippy:joker:

I haven't seen it either tbh

I know!

If more people were saying this i could get on board but it's just JJ.

Yes and I have a horrible feeling they will be making Rachael look bad. They want Sunshine kept in as a sympathy case and Shabby is good for nighttime live feed. So I think the producers will edit Rachael badly like they have done already.

LOL, well I did watch it! I just think that JJ and Rachel both need glasses and its all that squinting at each other thats causing the problems! :D

well she didn't help herself with her Vt to be honest
i think she was put in there to be the bitch
we will disagree on things but i think she will slot in perfectly

he got very upset with Ben saying he shouldn't waste his time with her cause she's using him

He viciously attacked her? :shocked: i must've missed that :bored:

His opinion tho and Ben is a big boy, he can make his own decisions.

JJ has about 5 facial expressions per second. Ok admittedly most are some variation on baffled but he often looks like he's giving dirty looks.

But, silly me, you fancy him so he could he could stomp a puppy to death and you'd forgive him.

I bet youre one of those women who write to good looking serial killers! :joker:

lol yes yes I do, all the time, you've caught me out there.............:joker:

I won't stoop to insulting you for having a differing opinion to me :hugesmile:

Is it that hard to believe that I just think he's right? Kris was a goodlooking boy last year but I thought he was a wanker, how does this fit in with your analysis of me?

Espicially after his rant about 'I dont care for sex', my ass! Just wanted to come across as innocent to the girls, LOL.

And hes good friends with Ben and Dave and has been bitching about them and possible gameplans with Govan. :rolleyes:

Yep!

I'd say at the moment he's the biggest bitch in the house.

bigger then govan :shocked:

Ok, the second biggest. :hugesmile:

Although, saying that.. Has Govan bitched about his friends?

Friends? seriously? they know eahother a week:joker:

That's what they call each other. Infact they've even said 'close friends'

Firstly, JJ was never friends with Rachael;, secondly, yes - when JJ was saying what he hates about Rachael, Govan said she's arrogant.

silly talk

they will vote each out when they have a chance to win:joker:

Has John James said, he's "close Friends" with anyone? I've heard Caoimhe and that crew saying it but not him. I find it hard to believe you could be friends with anyone really after a few days, close or otherwise