Ben was the only one in the conversation (after) to say who he had and hadnt nominated

Indeed.

And yeh "Those who deserve to be savaged will be savaged"...sheltered life... niaeve?? I dont bloody think so...this is an intelligent well travelled experienced young man, he knows exactly what hes doing

shh, don't look at the evidence.. you will upset the natives!

I feel this is a waist of time but....

BB could turn the water off at anytime (and have done so historically). It is an insignificant point. In this instance, the fact that everyone knows that it is his fault about the water compounds his punishment much more.

My 4 year old understands this.

This seems to change from series to series and sometimes is inconsistent within a series.

When Roberto and Derek discussed nominations in BB6, they discussed it with a third person (Craig, I think) and all three were punished, but as I recall all Craig did was nod his head a couple of times. Do you guys think that only people who directly talk about nominations should be punished? Personally, I think anybody involved in a conversation about nominations should be punished even if they only make a couple of comments. After 11 series the HM's should know better.

Ben did talk about nominations yes, but only in order to defend himself, i would have done the same, it all started because of Shabby as per usual, she always seems to be involved in everything that happens funnily enough!

What you say is irrelevant though... the water was turned off because of Ben. Thats the point and nothing you say counters that.

I don't get what you are struggling with tbh... It just seems Ben's defenders are just running out of defenses.

Maybe you should get your 4 year old to post next time.

god your so lost my child:joker:

always with the justifications for his intentional fuk ups on his part...

I'm no fan of hers particularly, but the blind Shabby hate/ Ben love on this board is just irrational.

what are you? 16? :joker: