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Zippy 01-07-2010 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985 (Post 3430544)
:sleep::sleep::sleep::sleep:

I'll join you..:sleep::sleep::sleep::sleep:

Nemo123 01-07-2010 08:41 PM

For art's sake I deplore censorship. But C4 is a public broadcasting service with a duty of care to its audience. In context, I say anything goes, but Big Brother is not the kind of programme that I would call art. True, it has thread new ground and broken taboos, and if there are any more taboos it can find to thread on then it should. But watching people pissed up all the time isn't one of them.

daniel-lewis-1985 01-07-2010 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Nemo123 (Post 3430572)
For art's sake I deplore censorship. But C4 is a public broadcasting service with a duty of care to its audience. In context, I say anything goes, but Big Brother is not the kind of programme that I would call art. True, it has thread new ground and broken taboos, and if there are any more taboos it can find to thread on then it should. But watching people pissed up all the time isn't one of them.


Someone just farted on tv, so i farted

Zippy 01-07-2010 08:47 PM

Giving them alcohol once a week or so is hardly making them drunk all the time. In fact, depriving them of alcohol at all makes the show very unrealistic and hardly a reflection of real society.

Fake and controlled more like.

BB_Eye 01-07-2010 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Nemo123 (Post 3430572)
For art's sake I deplore censorship. But C4 is a public broadcasting service with a duty of care to its audience. In context, I say anything goes, but Big Brother is not the kind of programme that I would call art. True, it has thread new ground and broken taboos, and if there are any more taboos it can find to thread on then it should. But watching people pissed up all the time isn't one of them.

BB don't withhold alchohol from the housemates in the interests of the show. It's because they have a draconian regulator breathing down their necks. Other than that, I think most could agree the show would be much more fun with some booze... and don't tell me you didn't enjoy Fight Night. :tongue:

Nemo123 01-07-2010 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985 (Post 3430582)
Someone just farted on tv, so i farted

I wrote something half sensible, and you just farted.

Nemo123 01-07-2010 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BB_Eye (Post 3430608)
BB don't withhold alchohol from the housemates in the interests of the show. It's because they have a draconian regulator breathing down their necks. Other than that, I think most could agree the show would be much more fun with some booze... and don't tell me you didn't enjoy Fight Night. :tongue:

It was all good. BB5 was great. But it's been done. It's done and dusted. Past. As the series go by each one looks more and more like a pale imitation of a previous one.

daniel-lewis-1985 01-07-2010 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Nemo123 (Post 3430624)
I wrote something half sensible, and you just farted.

No. You wrote something that made my eyes want to close. Your post was so boring that people probably died reading it.

Nemo123 01-07-2010 09:12 PM

There's too many benders on it this year. That's where it's gone wrong. There comes a point where orthodoxy and unorthodoxy cross over and the majority feel marginalied; or is this just a show for pooftas?

daniel-lewis-1985 01-07-2010 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Nemo123 (Post 3430724)
There's too many benders on it this year. That's where it's gone wrong. There comes a point where orthodoxy and unorthodoxy cross over and the majority feel marginalied; or is this just a show for pooftas?


Stop trying to anger people by hiding your political corectness its patheic

Nemo123 01-07-2010 09:35 PM

Usually people wrap up hatred in political correctness. It just seems to be all gay this year; can't take it any more.

Mac Hiavellian 01-07-2010 10:11 PM

Good post Daniel.

I think Kinga and the bottle's to blame for the nudity/sexual content, CBB5 for offensive jokes and arguments, and not really sure about alcohol. Maybe Ch4 got scared Ofcom would eventually complain about that too

You're right about Endemol showing all sorts in foreign BBs. If BB does come back in a few years or on another channel I hope it gets the classic BB treatment!

daniel-lewis-1985 01-07-2010 10:14 PM

Tonights episode just proved how pussy-like BB has become.

Reprimanding JJ over that play fight was absurd.

BB are walking on eggshells and it's sad to see

AndyJK 01-07-2010 10:21 PM

We all know why BB has changed because of Jade effing Goody. Well not only has it changed it's ending because of what she did and to the show's reputation.

The fun has gone out of it in ways but there's still some good ideas like the tree.

Mac Hiavellian 01-07-2010 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985 (Post 3431118)
Tonights episode just proved how pussy-like BB has become.

Reprimanding JJ over that play fight was absurd.

BB are walking on eggshells and it's sad to see

Do you think the fact it's the last series on Ch4 makes it worse?

I think the producers have got the show right this year with the house, HMs, tasks etc but it would've been a bigger sereis if Ch4 did show a bit more flesh, booze and let arguments naturally escalate

daniel-lewis-1985 01-07-2010 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mac Hiavellian (Post 3431187)
Do you think the fact it's the last series on Ch4 makes it worse?

I think the producers have got the show right this year with the house, HMs, tasks etc but it would've been a bigger sereis if Ch4 did show a bit more flesh, booze and let arguments naturally escalate


To be honest Channel 4 wanna move on from BB and are trying to re-launch their channel so they probably dont want BB getting a **** load of attention.

I am enjoying the series though and i like the housemates this year i just feel a bit short changed if you know what i mean

bbfan1991 01-07-2010 10:34 PM

The HL show involving Lisa and David's trip last year was fun but I hated the task because it made a mockery of the rules!.

Mac Hiavellian 01-07-2010 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985 (Post 3431246)
To be honest Channel 4 wanna move on from BB and are trying to re-launch their channel so they probably dont want BB getting a **** load of attention.

I am enjoying the series though and i like the housemates this year i just feel a bit short changed if you know what i mean

Yeah, I get what you mean. I'm surprised Ch4 gave this year as much publicity as it got tbh.

If it makes it any easier (or worse lol) a lot of TV shows aren't as bold or controversial as they were. Look at the amount of Ofcom complaints Eastenders gets for a gay kiss and killing a dog (offscreen!)

Kelbeans 01-07-2010 10:48 PM

I have to agree with this censorship rubbish.

I don't understand what has ever been shown on BB which hasn't been shown countless times in films and dramas broadcast at the same time or earlier on all channels? All of these, exactly like BB, are a dramatised depiction of real life!! If you don't like real life you have a bit of a problem don't you?!!

Our country's increased drinking rate/drug rate/teenage pregnancy rate is maybe just a little bit down to the fact that we have to work 50 hours + per week just to tread water financially, we can't say or do anything without the fear of some "PC" PC tightening the handcuffs, and you get free council houses and a life made for your teenage fumblings.

All BB is doing at the moment is reinforcing the idea that positive discrimination is positive - I reinforce the idea that positive discrimination is discrimination!!! I find it sad :(

brian3 01-07-2010 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by AndyJK (Post 3431168)
We all know why BB has changed because of Jade effing Goody. Well not only has it changed it's ending because of what she did and to the show's reputation.

The fun has gone out of it in ways but there's still some good ideas like the tree.

I agree. It's BBs own fault. If they had have jumped in right away with the Jade racism thing. Instead of letting it drag out. It would not have blown up like it did. Then they would not be as carefull as they are now. Had they delt with the Jade thing better. Then Emily would have just got a warning in BB8 and the series would not be walking on eggshells. They brought it on themselves.

daniel-lewis-1985 01-07-2010 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bbfan1991 (Post 3431265)
The HL show involving Lisa and David's trip last year was fun but I hated the task because it made a mockery of the rules!.

Yet again youve posted another comment which as no relevance to the topic lol

Nemo123 01-07-2010 11:15 PM

I think what people forget is that this show is boring for 99% of the time. Always has been. Looking back at previous series is through rose tinted glasses. It's even more boring than usual this year. It's run its course, it's over. It's a dead parrot.

daniel-lewis-1985 01-07-2010 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Nemo123 (Post 3431567)
I think what people forget is that this show is boring for 99% of the time. Always has been. Looking back at previous series is through rose tinted glasses. It's even more boring than usual this year. It's run its course, it's over. It's a dead parrot.

It's not boring im loving it :)

It's not as outrageous as previous series but im addicted to live feed this year and i actually care about the evicted housemates which i havnt done since bb7.

Fetch The Bolt Cutters 01-07-2010 11:24 PM

hey daniel :lovedup:

Mac Hiavellian 01-07-2010 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985 (Post 3431526)
Yet again youve posted another comment which as no relevance to the topic lol

It's not really relating to the censorship but they've got a valid point about the show going back on itself and Ch4 sticking the knife in


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