John James basically opened up to Josie and basically wanted to cool it, suggesting moving beds and comparing it to the Shabby and Caiomhe situation, which Josie took offence at, sulks and made JJ1 feel like **** for making Josie feel like ****.

As usual with Josie she ends up calling JJ1 "stupid" and laughing at him when they try to resolve things, and then ignores him. JJ1 can't handle that so opted to leave. When he returned Josie again ends up calling him "stupid" and laughing as John James is pretty much in tears at he whole situation.


And then JJ1 has spent four hours or so in bed with Josie apologising for god knows what. Josie brushes off most comments but everytime JJ1 says something she can milk a bit further she gets another apology out of him and blames all her own faults on being on her period, as she did last weekend with Caiomhe.

If John James wants to 'cool' things maybe he should stop sending mixed signals and saying he loves her and 'snuggling' as Josie calls it.

I agree :wavey:

Even is she was (which she isnt) Why is JJ trying to turn John against Josie for, twat.

I dont like JJ2 on elittle bit, dont like watching him on live feed at all. I have no idea why I dislike him but its pretty strong. My instincts have rarely failed me in the past. If I met him RL Id avoid him. He strikes me as a creeparse.

Because JJ2 wants JJ1 all to himself.

More a case of cool it in the house, see what happens outside the house really - but I'm not sure he got the chance to finish that conversation. Indeed the bunny boiler probably saw what was coming and stopped him in his tracks, knowing how he'd react and how ultimately he'd have no choice but to come back to her.

Because any woman who makes you feel like that surely isn't good for you. Seriously, we've seen what a jealous manipulative cow she is in the house - imagine her on the outside world.

hmmm i've just remembered how he was saying 'one day' over and over again in the snug,,, about how he would one day have a big garden with a TV room..he is very ambitious, nothing wrong with that, but i wonder if it's jj2 that has the strongest game plan, he is very focused on jj1, so he has gone straight to the core of the drama in the house...he appears to be a cool operator

I am really happy that JJ1 has a new friend in JJ2 and i think it is quite important that they become better friends to try and cool down the JJ and Josie situation. However i am still not sure about how JJ2's motives, because while it is really nice that he is being such a good friend to JJ1, he may be using JJ1 as a 1st class ticket to last couple of weeks.

I am happy that he is trying to expose Josie though, because i think Josie draws bad things out of John James sometimes. She often makes jokes at him (which JJ1 takes as a joke) but really they are quite insulting i.e, mentioning stinky breath, etc. She actually seems to belittle John James quite alot. She treats him like a puppy, holding him close like a hot water bottle, where his affection makes her feel better. But she doesn't seem to care how it comes across to him.

He is trying to open JJ's eyes as to what a scheming, manipulative bitch Josie is - thing is like attracts like - they have a lot in common!

I wonder why Josie was so reluctant for John to say anything about the situation on the video where he returns too the house. Any insight?

Probably embarrassment cos he kept saying I dont want to lead you on and she just wanting him to stop talking about it.

Past caring.

Wish they'd hold hands and jump off a cliff together at this point.

i think there is something dodgy going on hmm.

they love each other a lot but don`t want anything happen in front of camera.
looks to me like a foreplay:)

Because she doesn't want to face facts. This whole situation arose because she wouldn't let John James say what he needed to say. From the clips we can piece together he basically wants to cool it in the house but see what happens when they leave - but Josie basically only let him say about cooling it in the house before throwing a hissy fit, and then refused to talk about it all afterwards.

I agree with all of this statement! Cheers!

Deep down she doesn't think JJ would ever be interested in her and shes trying to remain in a position where she can just shrug her shoulder and say SO when the inevitable split happens, from what I've saw though JJ really is into her and she just doesn't realise this, maybe if JJ did what they used to do in the olden days though and get stuck into her in bed it might help give her an indication, all that closeness without even a kiss will mess with anyones emotions or thinking

I think Josie is great but needs to keep away from JJ. He is the one thats leading her up the garden path. When JJ2 came in he upped his game and its backfired. Josie fancies JJ rotten and Jj is playing up to it.

As for JJ2 there is something very strange about him, he is like JJ's doplerganger, and I think it is all a tactic, he will get on JJ's side and then whip the mat from under him. He is freaking me out a bit.

I want JJ2 to turn on JJ1 in a sneaky fashion, the show needs to end with a Nasty Nick character

John James has made it subtly clear that he loves Josie in a sisterly way.... He sees her as a great friend... we all need a good friend.Sleeping in her bed was probably a little mis-leading and TBH I dont know how that first came about....prob with the arrival of new HM's.
However Josie can turn really nasty when things dont go her way.... why didnt she just be mature and agree with him or talk it over.
Now she will have it in for him bigtime....unless he gives into her demands.

Sleeping in her bad after she told him she had feeling for him is very misleading, so is telling her he only wants to spend time with her and telling her out of the blue he loves her, then to top it off, intentionally going out his way to put a football top on just because she fancies him in it, the poor girl has finally started to believe he feels the same, no wonder shes pissed off