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Jords 29-07-2010 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 3574052)
All true though, let's be honest.
No, no it is not, hes far more in the game than anybody else in there!

Lets see this side come out to play again, just when hes up for eviction - unless it doesnt get shown. :sleep:

Jack_ 29-07-2010 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by WOMBAI (Post 3574257)
So why do you like him Jack - nothing to do with his looks and the fact you fancy him - no, it couldn't possibly be that simple could it! :joker:
Oh that pathetic assumption again. To be quite honest, I don't even find him that attractive. And if you honestly think I base my favourite housemates on how attractive I find them then are you seriously suggesting I found people like Marcus and Rex attractive? What a joke.

I never have and never will base my favourite Big Brother housemates on appearance. I base it on who is the most important/influential/entertaining...something which everyone should do...but don't.

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Originally Posted by kazanne (Post 3574503)
so is what ben says but he gets slated for it,lets be honest
I don't particularly have a problem with Ben myself.

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Originally Posted by Julie10 (Post 3574699)
Oh get out of town. Obsessed he flew all the way from Austrailia, has watched BB and knows every trick in the book, tears, romance, breaking out of the house. Hes entitled to his opinions but that doesn't stop him being a hypocritical two face buffoon. Hes the biggest obsessive in there.
...true, but he's still more influential and important to the show than the rest of them.

Beastie 29-07-2010 11:40 AM
Jack.. you are like a bitter troll on here!! lol

Kazanne 29-07-2010 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by ibook4113 (Post 3574565)
See it the way you want to see it but Ben is a selfish, two faced, child. At least JJ is honest, he would happily confirm what he said to any of those people, they might not like it, but it is true.
HONEST,pmsl,he goes in the DR and tells a nation he looks on Josie as a sister figure and is not attracted to her,then hops into bed with her and tells his big sister he loves her,:joker::joker::joker::joker:you are welcome to tthe hypocritical loser.

Jack_ 29-07-2010 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Jords (Post 3574938)
No, no it is not, hes far more in the game than anybody else in there!

Lets see this side come out to play again, just when hes up for eviction - unless it doesnt get shown. :sleep:
I don't believe that for a second, but even if it was true, why should it matter? It's a gameshow afterall, right?

Only in pathetic moral Britian would someone be criticised for having a gameplan in a gameshow :sleep:

The bottom line is - he has been one of the most influential housemates this series, and without him half of it would've fallen flat on its face. No conflict, no storylines. Nothing. It'd have just been a bunch of pointless, dull non-entities making small talk getting along like a house on fire.

Jords 29-07-2010 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 3574965)
I don't believe that for a second, but even if it was true, why should it matter? It's a gameshow afterall, right?

Only in pathetic moral Britian would someone be criticised for having a gameplan in a gameshow :sleep:

The bottom line is - he has been one of the most influential housemates this series, and without him half of it would've fallen flat on its face. No conflict, no storylines. Nothing. It'd have just been a bunch of pointless, dull non-entities making small talk getting along like a house on fire.
Then he shouldnt be hypocritical and accuse others of being 'too into the game'!

If you find some showmance interesting, real or fake, fair do's, I for one and many others are bored sh!tless with it. We have seen so many of them, enough is enough, they steal all the HLs and its boring. And as for his arguing, its always so petty, get somebody who causes real drama in, not some idiot that bitches like a high school girl, boring stuff. Earlier on in the series he was essential, but now its the complete reverse and I think hes the cause of the show being dull.

LemonJam 29-07-2010 11:50 AM
I love it when Ben supporters of all people moan at John James for bitching. Beautiful really.

Jords 29-07-2010 11:58 AM
Ben does his fair share of bitching too, but nobody is biggin' him up as some Victor/Science type of character, people think John James is one of them but hes nothing like it (not that I usually like them characters, theyre good for the house though :laugh:).

I love Ben because I find him hilarious and is a decent person, lazy yes, but trustworthy and respectable and he always remains cool in situations. John James really mocks who he is bitching about, Ben is much more suttle and does it to get stress of his chest imo.

Jack_ 29-07-2010 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Jords (Post 3575002)
Then he shouldnt be hypocritical and accuse others of being 'too into the game'!
That would be part of his 'game' though...it's like a diversion technique. Accuse the others and then it people are less likely to accuse him.

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Originally Posted by Jords (Post 3575002)
If you find some showmance interesting, real or fake, fair do's, I for one and many others are bored sh!tless with it. We have seen so many of them, enough is enough, they steal all the HLs and its boring. And as for his arguing, its always so petty, get somebody who causes real drama in, not some idiot that bitches like a high school girl, boring stuff. Earlier on in the series he was essential, but now its the complete reverse and I think hes the cause of the show being dull.
I'm indifferent towards the 'showmance'. It's a bit too late to bring a firecracker in, and even if they did try to, with the choice of housemates this year, they've got absolutely no chance. We've just got to put up with who we've got. And also, chances are, ratings would begin to drop if he left anyway, because let's be honest, the majority of young girls outside of this forum are probably watching because of the 'showmance'. So in theory, by wanting to evict him, you are wanting to kill the last ever series of your [supposedly] favourite TV show.

I wouldn't have a problem with him going if we had any other big characters that'll cause conflict/storylines and the like, I really wouldn't. But the fact of the matter is, we don't. We have a bunch of dull people that will all get on like a house on fire and make small talk about the dullest of things. It was bad enough once Shabby left...once John goes, well...

Jack_ 29-07-2010 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Jords (Post 3575066)
people think John James is one of them but hes nothing like it
I don't, he's not even one of the 'BB legends' yet. None of them this year. Because they're all ****ing awful housemates. John James/Shabby and at some points Ben were the best out of a bad bunch. If he was in another better year, I doubt I'd like him. Because he's not even that great a housemate, I'm not going to dispute that. But he is one of the best this year...and for that reason, he should stay.

JEJ 29-07-2010 12:13 PM
I think the difference between JJ itching and Ben bitching is that Ben always has to cross refer *everything* back to himself, that's what I can''t stomach, the way he always starts with something along the lines of 'You know me...'

Kazanne 29-07-2010 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by LemonJam (Post 3575023)
I love it when Ben supporters of all people moan at John James for bitching. Beautiful really.
Of couse we moan when crabby is lauded for bitching and ben is slated,bitching is bitching no matter who does it and from what i have seen they have ALL done it

Jords 29-07-2010 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 3575067)
That would be part of his 'game' though...it's like a diversion technique. Accuse the others and then it people are less likely to accuse him.



I'm indifferent towards the 'showmance'. It's a bit too late to bring a firecracker in, and even if they did try to, with the choice of housemates this year, they've got absolutely no chance. We've just got to put up with who we've got. And also, chances are, ratings would begin to drop if he left anyway, because let's be honest, the majority of young girls outside of this forum are probably watching because of the 'showmance'. So in theory, by wanting to evict him, you are wanting to kill the last ever series of your [supposedly] favourite TV show.

I wouldn't have a problem with him going if we had any other big characters that'll cause conflict/storylines and the like, I really wouldn't. But the fact of the matter is, we don't. We have a bunch of dull people that will all get on like a house on fire and make small talk about the dullest of things. It was bad enough once Shabby left...once John goes, well...
I think he is well too dumb to know something like that, he admitted yesterday that he can easily make himself cry by just thinking of something sad, which puts all previous occasions where hes cried in question. Hes just being a hypocrite imo.

To be fair, Im not bothered who else watches the show, of course Id like ratings to soar but if not it doesnt really affect my viewing, this is quite possibly the last series so moreso. And also they still have JJ in there they would start to back, and possibly what happens between him and Corin.

We all find different things entertaining. For me its like de ja vu with John James, same thing over and over which for me is tedious. Because the producers have giving him so much air time, people are under the influence that the others do nothing and hes the biggest character, not true, strip him away and we get to see the other housemates blossom for the last 3 weeks, could really save this show.

Jack_ 29-07-2010 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Jords (Post 3575140)
I think he is well too dumb to know something like that
That completely contradicts this assumption that he is playing a game. Sorry, but if he was too dumb, he would be too dumb to have a gameplan.

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Originally Posted by Jords (Post 3575140)
, he admitted yesterday that he can easily make himself cry by just thinking of something sad, which puts all previous occasions where hes cried in question. Hes just being a hypocrite imo.

To be fair, Im not bothered who else watches the show, of course Id like ratings to soar but if not it doesnt really affect my viewing, this is quite possibly the last series so moreso. And also they still have JJ in there they would start to back, and possibly what happens between him and Corin.

We all find different things entertaining. For me its like de ja vu with John James, same thing over and over which for me is tedious. Because the producers have giving him so much air time, people are under the influence that the others do nothing and hes the biggest character, not true, strip him away and we get to see the other housemates blossom for the last 3 weeks, could really save this show.
I've been watching LF a lot the last few days, and they literally do nothing. Sure, John Joe/Corin/Mario have been good at night talking...but it's hardly riveting viewing for a highlights show. And I know the 'showmance' isn't exactly riveting viewing either, but it's the best we've got for now.

Even if the other housemates do come out of their shells, they still don't deserve to win...and thus shouldn't really be given a chance. The only people that should win are the ones that have consistently been influential/important/entertaining. So either John James or Corin, really. The newbies are different because you judge them on their shorter amount of time in there, but most of the originals have done absolutely **** all for half the series and thus, don't deserve to win or even be in the final.

I'm Buzzin! 29-07-2010 12:25 PM
It's about time people see John James for the person he really is. He's a master manipulator who knows exactly how to play the big brother game. So glad Big Brother uploaded his rant onto the channel 4 site. I figured they would "overlook it" like all the other incriminating things John James does.

Jack_ 29-07-2010 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by I'm Buzzin! (Post 3575192)
It's about time people see John James for the person he really is. He's a master manipulator who knows exactly how to play the big brother game.
Why do you want him out then? :rolleyes:

agneth 29-07-2010 12:29 PM
John James is right in what he's saying. He's not the only one who tells it like it is.
Mario is defo the biggest game player in there. Some folks are just better lickers than others. In a way it's a good thing he's got it off his chest. Being stuck in one place would definitely drive me bonkers! There's no hiding from anyone and the lack of privacy must be dreadful.

To remain sane they have to remain positive. Big Brother needs to give them something to do.

The house looks absolutley filthy - they should give them a cleaning task with everyone taking part. It's disgusting in there I'm surprised they haven't all come down with a sickness bug. It must smell too! Yuck! They just throw their towels on that filthy bedroom floor - Kim and Aggy would have a field day with that untidy bunch. :nono:


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