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joeysteele 03-08-2010 02:30 PM

Actually housemate you are spot on, he said from the start he felt he was on a mission, all the early weeks in the diary room and all over the house, he carried out his preaching,all this full of the love of the lord drunk on the lord, drunk of the holy spirit, preaching on certan activities such as gay marriage and giving a sermon really. He was always on about it and although there is a slight abatement he still goes on and on and regularly stated in the early weeks it was his duty to promote the power and love of the lord.
His statement that he only says 2% of all he thinks,well,all I can say is, THANK the lord for that, thank goodness he does only say 2%.
I can go on a lot making my points on things, but if he gave us all the other 98% we would be brainwashed because there would be no more time to hear what any other housemate said.

flamingGalah! 03-08-2010 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ElProximo (Post 3602096)
It is true that we can find some cultures in history who (for a time at least) had some kind of acceptance of homosexual couples or even some kind of 'marriage' for them.
These are called 'exceptions to the rule'. Sometimes they didn't last long. Other times were even considered 'strange' in those exceptions,
but,
The actual 'complaint' being made here was that there are a number of people who believe this ought to be acceptable (wait for it) but who also carry on discussions 'as if' everyone else ought know and accept it too,
and,
what is worse is that they not only presume their 'truth' is superior and everyone should agree but that anyone who disagrees must be 'strange' and even punished for their non-compliance.

I'm not sure what planet or even what year you are living in, but this is 2010 on Earth & now the majority of people are very accepting of homosexuals, quite rightly so too...

It IS acceptable, not to you maybe, but who cares? :sleep:

You seem to be under the wrong impression that people who think homosexuals are "acceptable" are wrong, when infact it is you who are very very wrong... And why isn't it "acceptable"???? :conf: :sleep:

The only person dictating their views on this subject has been YOU. YOU are the one who presumes their "truth" is "superior" & have tried to turn it round that anyone that disagrees with YOU must be "strange"... :sleep:

We get it, you are a Christian & you don't agree with homosexuals... NO ONE CARES... :xyxwave:

WOMBAI 03-08-2010 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by pixee (Post 3600790)
He only says 2% of what he thinks he claims.

Must be why he was so selective with his view on homosexuality, least we can now rule him out as a genuine person cause he is keeping 98% back.

Do the math...s

How ridiculous - talk about twist his words! He was simply saying that you have to be tactful about what you say to people - you can't just say everything you think - if it may offend! And 2% was just an off-the-cuff figure! Sigh!

pixee 03-08-2010 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by WOMBAI (Post 3603687)
How ridiculous - talk about twist his words! He was simply saying that you have to be tactful about what you say to people - you can't just say everything you think - if it may offend! And 2% was just an off-the-cuff figure! Sigh!

Well maybe he should think about what he says before he says it like he was trying to explain to sam..

this wasn't an entirely serious thread but a fair one in the context of him trying to tell someone else to think before they speak surely.

joeysteele 03-08-2010 02:44 PM

The real big turn off for people as to Christianity, (and I am a Christian, I have family who are Priests), are many people who call themselves Christians,watch them and you see no bigger example of hypocrisy from being a Church singing sweetly and looking all pious,then leaving church and tearing away to get home, speaking to few poeple and moaning the service or sermon was too long, then they go and forget about helping people in the main until next week for an hour or so in church.
DAVE would drive me away from his church not win me over to it in any way.
Talk is easy and Dave does a hell of a lot of that.

WOMBAI 03-08-2010 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by pixee (Post 3600850)
Especially when your views might be homophobic "init".

I'd rather know peoples beliefs and opinions in that enviroment when 100k is up for grabs.

Sam won't win because he says what he is thinking and admitted tonight himself he should have rephrased what he said but at least you can all vote him out cause you know what he thinks.

Oh - I'm sure you share every private thought about people with them! You don't like a colleague at work very much - so you just blurt it out! Life doesn't work like that - people often keep their opinions to themself - there would be chaos if we all went round telling everyone what we really think of them! Realities of life!

And what is this constant obsession with gays! Talk about trying to shove your opinions down other people's throats! Dave clearly has no problem with gay people per se - just can't marry them due to religious restraints. Not that that is anyone else's business anyway! Just trying to stir up more hatred for him! :sleep:

pixee 03-08-2010 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ElProximo (Post 3601962)
Uh no. This has nothing to do with 'Science' although it is true that many scientifically advanced civilizations believed homosexuality was some kind of disease or even a 'genetic mistake' and in the case of highly advanced Germany their were medical scientists who supposed it was an evolutionary mistake.
They supposed you could send them to death camps (eliminate them from the gene pool) and eventually eliminate that problem altogether.

We currently are at a peak of human scientific evolution and homosexuality in europe is accepted.

And wouldn't you agree that those scientists were wrong and perhaps their findings were based on bias or "expected" results?

Not that this has anything to do with the topic that i created lol..

pixee 03-08-2010 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by WOMBAI (Post 3603757)
Oh - I'm sure you share every private thought about people with them! You don't like a colleague at work very much - so you just blurt it out! Life doesn't work like that - people often keep their opinions to themself - there would be chaos if we all went round telling everyone what we really think of them! Realities of life!

And what is this constant obsession with gays! Talk about trying to shove your opinions down other people's throats! Dave clearly has no problem with gay people per se - just can't marry them due to religious restraints. Not that that is anyone else's business anyway! Just trying to stir up more hatred for him! :sleep:

Wish people would stop comparing a reality entertainment show with a competative prize element with "real life" they can say they don't like one another cause they are never going to meet again unless they choose to and people are watching them and like it or not judging them.

flamingGalah! 03-08-2010 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by pixee (Post 3603794)
We currently are at a peak of human scientific evolution and homosexuality in europe is accepted.

And wouldn't you agree that those scientists were wrong and perhaps their findings were based on bias or "expected" results?Not that this has anything to do with the topic that i created lol..

I really don't think he would agree to be honest... :nono:

pixee 03-08-2010 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by flamingGalah! (Post 3603864)
I really don't think he would agree to be honest... :nono:

haha no i don't think he will either.

ElProximo 03-08-2010 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by pixee (Post 3603794)
We currently are at a peak of human scientific evolution..

We are??
Wow!

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...and homosexuality in europe is accepted.
In fact, state-acknowledged homosexual marriage is not happening in most of Europe.

As for homosexuality in general (put aside marriage) it is very obvious to anyone that a large portion of European certainly don't accept this as 'completely normal'.
People 'accept' if you mean 'tolerate' and so we also tolerate alcoholism, football fanatics and latex fetishes.
Quote:

And wouldn't you agree that those scientists were wrong and perhaps their findings were based on bias or "expected" results?
Yes, I do agree that these scientists were wrong and homosexuality was not a 'mistake of evolution' and could not be ended by eliminating gays in camps. Agreed.

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Not that this has anything to do with the topic that i created lol..
Here again is the specific complaint or criticism:
Having a discussion where we 'pretend' that not only is homosexual marriage perfectly acceptable by everyone of us,
but,
in fact the very idea of even questioning it or (in this case) a Christian minister NOT happily marrying gays....
...that people act 'as if' this were UNHEARD OF!.
That we ought to be SURPRISED!
Not only surprised but want to HURT HIM for daring to say something so outrageous and defying!

In reality, even with a 'liberal' party elected into power they knew they could not do 'gay marriage' for the backlash and resistance it would meet (and probably fail).
So they went for 'civil union' instead - something which does not even imply homosexuality after all.

So why are we pretending we are 'surprised' at such a thing?

Patricia4 03-08-2010 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pixee (Post 3600790)
He only says 2% of what he thinks he claims.

Must be why he was so selective with his view on homosexuality, least we can now rule him out as a genuine person cause he is keeping 98% back.

Do the math...s

he only says 2% because he bitches behind their backs the other 98%.


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