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MTVN 16-09-2010 05:43 PM

People are getting too worked up here, using taxpayers money to fund visits from those of importance is hardly a new concept. And before people moan about the cost, at least acknowledge the huge amount of money that the visit will generate for the economy, just in Glasgow alone it will give an £8.5 million boost

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Originally Posted by keithafc (Post 3793230)
He should not be in the country. No Surrender.

Stupid bigot.

Lucy. 16-09-2010 05:48 PM

Can someone sum up why everyone hates the Pope for me? I literally have no idea who, why or what he is hated for, I clearly live in a cave.

MTVN 16-09-2010 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucy. (Post 3794170)
Can someone sum up why everyone hates the Pope for me? I literally have no idea who, why or what he is hated for, I clearly live in a cave.

Well it's been a pretty controversial year for the Catholic Church, there were all the child abuse scandals, his employment of a Holocaust denier, his condemnation of condoms and there's the fact that he is against homosexuality and (like all Catholics) is opposed to abortion.

I dont think there would be the same amount of uproar of it was the previous Pope - John Paul II - visiting, he was a lot more popular

Smithy 16-09-2010 07:20 PM

He doesn't like Harry Potter either :(

Lucy. 16-09-2010 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 3794176)
Well it's been a pretty controversial year for the Catholic Church, there were all the child abuse scandals, his employment of a Holocaust denier, his condemnation of condoms and there's the fact that he is against homosexuality and (like all Catholics) is opposed to abortion.

I dont think there would be the same amount of uproar of it was the previous Pope - John Paul II - visiting, he was a lot more popular

But if that's Catholicism then why do they hate that particular Pope so much?

bananarama 16-09-2010 07:36 PM

Hours of pointless drivel being talked about the visit on sky news and elsware. News channels lost the plot as to what is real news is.......As for the cost it should be paid for by the catholic church. UK taxpayers other than catholics are literaly being robbed......

20 million pound or whatever could have been provided to hospitals to finance drugs that patients have been refused....Another example of religion indirectly killing people due to them wasting financial recources on rituals and clap trap from senile old nitwits......

Shasown 16-09-2010 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bananarama (Post 3794377)
Hours of pointless drivel being talked about the visit on sky news and elsware. News channels lost the plot as to what is real news is.......As for the cost it should be paid for by the catholic church. UK taxpayers other than catholics are literaly being robbed......

20 million pound or whatever could have been provided to hospitals to finance drugs that patients have been refused....Another example of religion indirectly killing people due to them wasting financial recources on rituals and clap trap from senile old nitwits......

Yeah its a hard life living in a democracy aint it?

Incidentally any moneys generated in a wide range of businesses benefitting from old benny's visit, shouldnt that just go to the caffolics?

MTVN 16-09-2010 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucy. (Post 3794347)
But if that's Catholicism then why do they hate that particular Pope so much?

Because they dont feel he has done enough to denounce the child abuse in terms of apologising, compensation etc. And his remarks on condoms appeared ill-judged to many as he was saying that they wouldnt help combat AIDS while on a visit to Afirca. He's also very conservative with his beliefs although then again so was John Paul II.

It's basically mainly down to the revelations of child abuse and the subsequent resentment felt towards the Catholic Church. Many lost faith and respect for the Church and also him as a result.

BB_Eye 16-09-2010 09:00 PM

Looks like Papa Benedict is throwing back accusations often used on him. :joker:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11332515

His remarks betray a certain ignorance. The Nazis were not atheist, far from it, and we all know who was turning a blind eye to them in Rome, don't we?

ElProximo 16-09-2010 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by setanta (Post 3793691)
I'll give you some more doozies, shall I?

Well, I'll give you one for starters http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/com...cle7096149.ece

Pope's right hand man blames homosexuals for clerical abuse.

What are you confused about?
They discovered a problem - homosexual priests who were molesting the teen boys.
They have no more of this happening than found in public schools, secular sports organization and other orgs where adults have special trust with children,
but,
At least they are aiming to do something about it. In this case they won't hire Priests who are known to be homosexuals.

Now, a lot of people say the RC's were too slow to catch on to the problem even after they realized they have just as many sex perverts as the public schools and I tend to agree,
but,
to give them credit where it's due - they are now doing a superb job of not only trying to deal with the past problem but put in some of the strictest measures and prevention schemes to keep it from happening again.

setanta 17-09-2010 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ElProximo (Post 3794488)
What are you confused about?
They discovered a problem - homosexual priests who were molesting the teen boys.
They have no more of this happening than found in public schools, secular sports organization and other orgs where adults have special trust with children,
but,
At least they are aiming to do something about it. In this case they won't hire Priests who are known to be homosexuals.

Now, a lot of people say the RC's were too slow to catch on to the problem even after they realized they have just as many sex perverts as the public schools and I tend to agree,
but,
to give them credit where it's due - they are now doing a superb job of not only trying to deal with the past problem but put in some of the strictest measures and prevention schemes to keep it from happening again.

You're actually accepting what the Cardinal said? You're blaming homosexuality for all these child molestation scandals? Wow, there's no point continuing this with you.

And as for them dealing and reacting properly to all these new events... are you having a laugh?

setanta 18-09-2010 01:48 PM

Well, looks like there's already been trouble. Told you it would be a nightmare visit for him.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11356600

Zippy 18-09-2010 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 3790560)
Bigoted, corrupt douchebag in charge of a dated, stupid cult, with a penchant for condemning everyone to AIDS and rehabilitating paedophiles and Holocaust deniers.

Absolute disgrace of a man and of a religion.

Here here.

It disgusts me when I start thinking about all the harm that he and his church of brainwashing has done to to the world. The hypocrisy, the lies, the ignorance. Millions have died as a direct result of their condemnation of protected sex and birth control. Millions have been made to feel worthless and often suicidal because of their rigid ideals of what their sexuality should be and how they should live their lives.

Then there is the shameful way in which they have covered up systematic child abuse that has been secretly occuring within the church for centuries. Protecting the abusers and allowing them to continue being a threat to children. Utterly deplorable.

His church should fund his visit if he's here to spread the word. Most of us dont even wanna hear his words. Some of us are even disgusted by his words.

ElProximo 18-09-2010 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by setanta (Post 3795128)
You're actually accepting what the Cardinal said? You're blaming homosexuality for all these child molestation scandals? Wow, there's no point continuing this with you.

And as for them dealing and reacting properly to all these new events... are you having a laugh?

Well for starters there shouldn't be any homosexual priests but the idea here is they don't want high-risk people in positions where there are a lot of teenage boys entrusted.

Who do you think is molesting the teenage boys anyways?


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