i think the concept, of a man having plastic surgery, to become a woman, is unattractive to most heterosexual men.

is that offensive? is there anything wrong with that? that's what i'm really asking.

is it offensive and discriminatory for most heterosexual men to prefer biological women?

I've seen countless numbers of women who were born as straight females that are far far uglier.

When she is done up all ready to go out or whatever, there is not a man on here who would say no if she randomly came up to you in a club and you didnt know her history, offering you a night of unbridled, kinky sex. You simply would not guess (despite what you will obviously say) that she was born a man.

FACT

i'm a man, and i definitely would say NO. so that totally discredits yur theory.

Bull****.

You can always tell a real woman from a ******.

Prefer sexually? No. Discriminatory but totally unoffensive, we all discriminate sexually.

Prefer as a person? Yes.

And again, this has nothing to do with preference or lack of sexual preference. It has to do with repulsion or lack of "tolerance". You're conflating the two on purpose.

Listen you odious little bigot, you cannot.

Ever seen the crying game?

Please watch it

You can be accepting of someone's lifestyle choices without fancying them.

http://resources1.news.com.au/images...FP-5746728.jpg

Transexual ^ And it's only going to get more confusing past 2010 :joker:

Thats when they should go and get psychological help.

i dont know what "conflating" means. google it for me plzzz.

When you mentally picture someone having a sex change, do you imagine them nipping over to the Drs surgery and saying 'hey doc I fancy being a woman today, cut my cock off and give me some tits love'.


The process involves years of psychological evaluations, medication, pain (physical and mental) and years and years of counselling before and after.

the crying game?? omg, could you be anymore stereotypical??? and you have the nerve to call someone else a "bigot"???? seriously???

Can we all plz calm down?, i don't want my thread to be locked plzzzz.

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/7866/laff.gif @ bringing up a movie.

Not quite sure what point you are trying to make to be honest.


There is a transexual in that movie that for the majority of the film you think is a bonafide woman...which kinda gets my point across.

If a grown man saw that when it first came out and says they did not fancy the transexual before the reveal they are lying.

it means "mixing" basically. In this case, you're mixing the idea that you shouldn't have to be attracted to transsexuals with the idea that you shouldn't have to tolerate them. One is ignorant, one isn't.

The transexual in the film is what I was refering to you little fool

Shall we play a little game?

I'll post a picture and you guess whether the person is female or a man (not even a post op)

Can you take that level of embarrassment ?

well let me make something clear, i don't believe you should "tolerate" anyone. i believe every human being has a right to live on this earth in safety and peace just as anyone else. no one should be "tolerated", everyone should be ACCEPTED.

My only point is about trying to demonize str8 men or anyone else for not accepting nadia as a woman.

We al accept Nadia as a human with all the same rights and responsibilties that all humans have. but for someone to not accept her as a woman, is that offensive. that's what i'm asking

Now, thanks for spoiling it. :bored:

I hate the word too, but these were the concepts you were mixing together. Tolerance vs. Attraction.

hahah

Its easy to spot a ******. Look for signs of plastic surgery, hips, hands, throat etc.

They are very easy to spot.

I don't see Nadia as a woman. I see her as i see a lot of other people that have obscene amounts of plastic surgery. like michael jackson, or joan rivers.

or Pete burns to put it in a more BB universe context.

as long as all the pics are hotties I wanna play :thumbs:

no uglies like spud face Nadia

But what about biological women with plastic surgery, huge hands, an adam's apple, a manly face etc?

case study: http://www.algorelabs.com/images/cou...adamsapple.jpg :joker:

oh don't get me started on ann coulter.. LOL talk about disturbing the hornet's nest... LOL

You know justas well as i do that referncing he crying game is incredibly stereotypical. you think Nadia wouldn't take offense to referncing the cryign game?

it would be like saying to a black person "i understand black people, cause i saw ROOTS" gimme a break.

you can't understand someone based on a MOVIE dude. don't you see how that's offensive??

People are INDIVIDUALS. that's the whole point. that's the ENTIRE point.

shut up you quim, I was making the point that you cannot tell the difference between a transexual and someone born a female just from sight.

The Crying Game illustrates my point perfectly.

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Excellent post lostalex.

Man or woman?

i'm not here to play games.

wasnt even aimed at you you bellend, take your soap box elsewhere

Adriana Lima is 100% woman. Nice try tho. :xyxwave:

I dont know its too small for me to see so I cant wank to it

post a bigger pic

edit I just notice I can click it to make it bigger, give me a few minutes...

Ah so you are a frequenter of teenage wank mags ok

As are you, evidently.

Er no

She is a model. FAIL. Like every one of your post has been. A total fail.

mags were good wen i was a boy but now i prefer internet pron as i dont have to turn my head and get a stiff neck

let's try to keep things on topic please. this thread is a question. Is it "transphobic" for heterosexual men to not be attracted to transexual women BECAUSE they are transexual.

that's the question i'm interested in.