I disagree, I've always preferred Pro Evo's gameplay. Up until the last two years the only thing that was better about Fifa was the fact that they had all the merchandising rights so you had the proper team names and everything. Fifa has taken big steps forward recently I admit, while Pro Evo has taken them backwards but I still just findit more fun playing PES for some reason

i agree as ive only dislike pes 2010.

The PES demo is class tbf, really close this year, and I've been a FIFA fan since '99!

Think I'll stick with FIFA though. I hate PES' Master League and lack of Championship - League 2 teams.

I was pretty impressed by Fifa, i didn't buy Fifa 10 but i think i'll buy 11 this time round. Is it just me or is it pretty easy?.. i'm already winning on top class level lol. My only question is about the penalties.. i haven't worked out how to get my keeper to dive or me to hit my penalty to either side of the goal.. can anyone help me please?

To save: Move with the left stick, dive with the right stick.

To score: Hold down B to power it, get it in the green area for accuracy and hold down the way you want to go as you run up to the ball.

They're pretty difficult, but effective once you've got the tekkerz.

Thank you!

I like how realistic it is, but omg the defenders are unbeatable sometimes.

PES is ****e. Simple as that.

Anyway, how do I download the demo on PS3?

PS Store

After playing the demo non-stop for a day or two, I must say, it is ****ing amazing. So much better than Fifa 10 it's unreal.

Also, I pre-ordered from Game and got a promo code for the Creation Centre beta so I can use it before the game is out, and omg it's brilliant.

After playing the demo non-stop for a day or two, I must say, it is ****ing amazing. So much better than Fifa 10 it's unreal.

Also, I pre-ordered from Game and got a promo code for the Creation Centre beta so I can use it before the game is out, and omg it's brilliant. So much quicker, easier and more detailed than on consoles.

Just downloaded the demo for my 360 and I am very impressed with it so far, it feels so much more realistic and I like the extra little additions such as the start where the teams line up and shake hands, and the new default celebrations.

The only thing that is bugging me atm is the penalties, the accuracy and power bar aren't a problem but even if I edge the analog stick just slightly to the left/right it goes stupidly wide, I just can't seem to get the hang of it?

Oh and another thing, I hope the squads are fully up to date by the time it's released, Van dee Vaart is still at Madrid and Ibrahimovic is still at Barca on this, and I really, really hope they sort out the manager mode issues for Fifa 11, the only problem I had with 10 was that manager mode was so buggy that it was almost unplayable and it is my favourite mode on the game.

Will take a lot of getting used to but I think it's going to be amazing.

So I've been playing some more and got used to the penalty issue now, I really like the delayed run up added in too.

The only issue I'm having with the demo at the moment is the AI. Why does the AI not run for the ball or attempt to tackle at all? It's so frustrating, especially if you're so used to FIFA 10 where the CPU will run after a free ball, but no, not here, after you have to wait for your player to regain composure who has just been challenged, you have to manually switch the indicator the the nearest player and run after the ball yourself, by which time the other team has almost always reached it first. I guess it's just a matter of getting used to it, but I thought they wanted to make this game feel even more like the real thing? What's real about having a free player who is yards from the free ball, just standing there like a bellend waiting for someone to tell him to run after it?

On another note, not particularly about the gameplay, but why have they only allowed 3 minute halves on the demo? Consider this game is more about build up play and passing than ever before and not being able to run at a defence and shoot within a couple of seconds, why have they given the shorted time possible to try things out? You're lucky to get aymore than 5 shots on target after all the build up play. Maybe that's just because I'm playing on WC/Legendary but it's really annoying me having to replay over and over just to try and get used to it.

Other than that, I'm still loving it and can't wait for it to be released. I just hope they don't keep loan playes at their original club for the first season.

EDIT: Also the runs that your computer team mates make aren't as 'clever' or realistic than in FIFA 10.