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Marsh. 22-09-2010 10:28 PM

Someone who thinks the general public who have to work all the hours god sends to get about 1% of what he probably earns would think it pretty stuck up of Chris Moyles to spend nearly an hour of his show expecting people to sympathise about his pay being a bit late when he gets paid 20x the amount he deserves anyway. Plus, the money is paid by the public aswell.

Jack_ 22-09-2010 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jase (Post 3805666)
He as said many times before on the air that if he had to do it for free he would

Fair enough. But the way I see that is if he could have the show as his 'hobby' then he would. But obviously it's his job, he doesn't have any other job and so thus he needs to make money somehow. If you have a job you expect to get paid. If he did it for free and had a job on the side then fine, but it's his real job and so thus he is entitled to moan about his pay - afterall it is his job and he is doing a job to earn money.

That's how I see it anyway.

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 3805676)
No, it's absolutely and utterly relevant, 100%. If Bill Gates gets robbed of £200 do you have just as much sympathy as when the same happens to a single mum who cant pay the bills? No, you dont give a **** about Bill Gates, and I really couldnt care less if a man has to wait a few weeks for his montly £60,000 to come through. You have to put each situation into context. I'm not saying it's right what they did to him but I dont feel obliged to sympathise with the guy just because of the principal of the matter, because that loses all it's importance when it, probably, does not have a dterimental effect on the guy at all.

He said himself he loves his job. Well, I think that when you're being paid £650,000 for a job that you love then you are very content in life. So one of his pau cheques is delayed a bit, he should get over it, if he truly loved his job as much as he said then he should be able to overcome such a minor setback, particularly, as, in the grand of scheme of things, it wiill affect him very little. He'll get the money eventually, it's not like he hasn't been paid all year, it's just one pay cheque (assuming he gets paid monthly)

Where did I say that people had to 'sympathise' with him? I just said he had every right to be furious, that's all. Which he does.

I only personally sympathise with him in the sense that he's evidently had a hard time with his relationship that has just recently ended, he was 'ill' for a week at the end of August where apparently he went to stay with his parents in Leeds, and now this. He looks very rough at the minute too. Doesn't look well at all.

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 3805676)
Umm yes, believe it or not, I am aware that it is the Chris Moyles show. He's supposedly a comedian, he's mean to crack a few jokes, play a few games and play some music inbetween. The fact that it's his show does not require him to make public a private dispute, nor does it justify it. It's between him and the BBC, dont impose your personal problem on your listeners.

Yes it does. Because he went to management and they didn't seem to care, and told him 'it doesn't matter'. So the only way he was going to get them off their arses was to let nine million people know about their total incompetence live on the radio. It's the last resort. And evidently he had to go there.

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 3805688)
Jack, you keep saying people are missing the point. They're not. I dont think anyone saying he's not entitled to his wages (I'm not anyway) it's just the apparent imperitive to sympathise with him that people are disagreeing with.

Again - where have I said people HAVE to sympathise with him? All I'm trying to say is that he has every right to be furious.

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Originally Posted by Omen (Post 3805938)
He's just havin' a mope because his gf left him, he's not a morning person and he spent the night on a sofa.

Pretty clueless, it seems. He left her, actually. So evidently you shouldn't be commenting on things you know absolutely nothing about.

setanta 22-09-2010 10:31 PM

Your own personal feelings for the guy are irrelevant here, and you really shouldn't use this event as an excuse to have a few digs at him, especially over the wage he earns. Look, I'm not a big fan of the chap but it's ridiculous that he hasn't been paid.

Jack_ 22-09-2010 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 08marsh (Post 3805961)
Someone who thinks the general public who have to work all the hours god sends to get about 1% of what he probably earns would think it pretty stuck up of Chris Moyles to spend nearly an hour of his show expecting people to sympathise about his pay being a bit late when he gets paid 20x the amount he deserves anyway.

Who said he wanted people to sympathise with him either? He has always been like this. If he's annoyed or something is bothering him, he will rant about it on-air. Hence why it's called The Chris Moyles Show, because, surprise ****ing surprise, the show is about him and his life. In this instance he was probably moaning about it on-air because the bosses clearly weren't listening to his personal and private discussions. By telling nine million viewers the BBC and Radio 1 are incompetent that's surely going to give them a kick up the arse? It makes sense.

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Originally Posted by 08marsh (Post 3805961)
Plus, the money is paid by the public aswell.

I doubt even a pound of your licence fee goes towards Chris Moyles' wages, FFS.

Jack_ 22-09-2010 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by setanta (Post 3805965)
Your own personal feelings for the guy are irrelevant here, and you really shouldn't use this event as an excuse to have a few digs at him, especially over the wage he earns. Look, I'm not a big fan of the chap but it's ridiculous that he hasn't been paid.

Exactly. Thank **** there's someone with some sense on this forum, I was beginning to get a little worried reading this thread [though I should've come to expect it really, this is TiBB].

Omen 22-09-2010 10:43 PM

OP said he had a rant on the air, yet is defending him.

setanta 22-09-2010 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Omen (Post 3805988)
OP said he had a rant on the air, yet is defending him.

That's his style though, and I'm sure his avid listeners tune in for that kinda thing... it's what he's paid for.

MTVN 22-09-2010 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 3805963)
Where did I say that people had to 'sympathise' with him? I just said he had every right to be furious, that's all. Which he does.

I only personally sympathise with him in the sense that he's evidently had a hard time with his relationship that has just recently ended, he was 'ill' for a week at the end of August where apparently he went to stay with his parents in Leeds, and now this. He looks very rough at the minute too. Doesn't look well at all.



Yes it does. Because he went to management and they didn't seem to care, and told him 'it doesn't matter'. So the only way he was going to get them off their arses was to let nine million people know about their total incompetence live on the radio. It's the last resort. And evidently he had to go there.



Again - where have I said people HAVE to sympathise with him? All I'm trying to say is that he has every right to be furious.

Perhaps you didn't say that, but this debate began originally after you slated me for saying "my heart bleeds".

All I'm saying is that he should gain some perspective. Of course, the BBC should have paid him, but he would do well to remember that he is considerably well off and earns a fortune compared to most people. In the grand scheme of things it probably affects him very little and yet the way he was talking you'd think he'd been made homeless! Personally, I think he's just throwing his toys out the pram.

His comments are pretty ill-judged if you ask me, considering that the country is still cautiously recovering from a severe recession and many people have gone through hard times, and then you switch on the radio and have to listen to Moyles' ranting on about how his £50,000 is arriving a little late.

Let's say a salesman has his pay cheque delayed (probably not unusual, Moyles' is hardly the first person not to be paid), should they go and have a rant at customers about it? That's effectively what he's doing here. It was completely inappropiate imo..

MTVN 22-09-2010 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 3805969)
Exactly. Thank **** there's someone with some sense on this forum, I was beginning to get a little worried reading this thread [though I should've come to expect it really, this is TiBB].

God forbid there be two sides to an argument :rolleyes:

Jack_ 22-09-2010 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Omen (Post 3805988)
OP said he had a rant on the air, yet is defending him.

See this:

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Originally Posted by setanta (Post 3805994)
That's his style though, and I'm sure his avid listeners tune in for that kinda thing... it's what he's paid for.

Exactly.

Omen, do you even know what you're talking about? Because it seems like you've just jumped in here and used this as another opportunity to condemn someone that you evidently hate. Pathetic, really. Like those commenters on the Daily Mail/Guardian websites. It's what his listeners tune in for, it's what he does, and in this instance especially, he had every right to be furious.

Just...think about what you're saying. Because not a lot of it makes sense.

Jack_ 22-09-2010 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 3806000)
God forbid there be two sides to an argument :rolleyes:

There isn't two sides to this particular argument though. It's simple - he does a job and therefore entitled to his wage. Just like the rest of us.

If he doesn't get his wage on time [like his contract would state], he has every right to moan. If he moans personally and privately to his management and they do nothing about it, he then has every right to moan on-air in order to try and get their arses into gear.

There is no two sides to this whatsoever. He is entitled to his wage and is entitled to moan about this. How anyone could dispute that is just beyond me.

Omen 22-09-2010 10:52 PM

Whatever he's entitled to he's not entitled to any sympathy, not from me.

See those Portsmouth players last year not get paid for months!

MTVN 22-09-2010 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 3806004)
There isn't two sides to this particular argument though. It's simple - he does a job and therefore entitled to his wage. Just like the rest of us.

If he doesn't get his wage on time [like his contract would state], he has every right to moan. If he moans personally and privately to his management and they do nothing about it, he then has every right to moan on-air in order to try and get their arses into gear.

There is no two sides to this whatsoever. He is entitled to his wage and is entitled to moan about this. How anyone could dispute that is just beyond me.

The trouble with you Jack is that you like to argue, but you dont like to debate.

Take a look at the comments in the article you linked in the op, Moyle's is getting very little sympathy from most people. I'm not saying he's not entitled to a wage, I'm just saying he should gain some prespective. And I'm not saying that he shouldn't moan about it, I'm just saying that there's a time and a place.

I've done my best to clearly show that there is a contrasting opinion to yours, if you refuse to acknowledge the other side to this argument (a side being advocated by many from what it looks like) then I wont bother continuing :shrug:

MTVN 22-09-2010 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Omen (Post 3806011)
Whatever he's entitled to he's not entitled to any sympathy, not from me.

See those Portsmouth players last year not get paid for months!

Yeah, they should have gone and ranted at their fans.

Omen 22-09-2010 10:59 PM

He should have withdrawn his services not dump his woes on his listeners.

setanta 22-09-2010 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Omen (Post 3806011)
Whatever he's entitled to he's not entitled to any sympathy, not from me.

See those Portsmouth players last year not get paid for months!

Ah, that's a silly tangent to be going off on really. Their club was in bits at the time and they were well aware of what was going on, plus they hardly pull in the same amount of punters as Moyle's. Look, I don't like the guy either, but come on.

Omen 22-09-2010 11:06 PM

Tis the nature of talk radio, I suppose, to waffle on and on about whatever's on your mind.

alc09 23-09-2010 08:11 PM

The man is a bellend, simple as that, as for 'comedy dave' what on earth is that about, the sad ***** aren't funny at all. Great to see that Moyles has shown himself up for the arrogant bastard that he really is.

What an idiot.

GiRTh 23-09-2010 08:18 PM

Moyles has done a bit of back tracking today claiming he can be a bit grumpy in the morning.

LINK

karezza 24-09-2010 11:00 AM

I would like to thank the BBC for wasting hundreds of thousands of pounds on an overweight, obnoxious bully.

BB_Eye 24-09-2010 11:21 AM

The untalented, fat ****** should just do everyone a favour and retire. He doesn't deserve a penny.


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