1 out of a lot....

Still though it is one couple still together so there is still hope.

In real life though more couples are breaking down. I bet more than 50% get divorced now.

Anyway I do agree that most BB couples are in love or in lust with each other in the "honeymoon period". You will get them feelings because you are living with someone 24 7. You could end up fancying someone or seeing someone in a different light.

Anyway.. good luck to them all!

You could be right! We just have to wait and see. I could imagine Josie having John's babies because she is a "randy mare". I havn't bought into the magazines though. I have just read what I have seen on the internet.

If Grace and Mikey came out with an interview (they usually do once every blue moon) then I will read that because it will be something fresh, new and interesting because they hardly do magazine interviews.

Grace and Mikey were the best BB couple ever! Just slunk back into their normal lives and ended up sticking it out together.

Well obviously. But some people won't even percieve the idea that it could be real,which annoys me. I don't percieve the idea it's fake I suppose but I do believe some BB 'couples' aren't real. I just think there's clearly a difference between the real and fake couples.

Well they're in London till like March I think. John's been asked stuff like where he sees himself in 5 years and he's said Bristol. I know they're going to Oz next month for a bit of a break.

I never said people couldn't say negative things about the couples,it annoys me but nowt I can do about it,it's your opinion. I don't just like all the little digs aimed at the fans.

Helen and Paul were together 5 years,Grace and Mikey 4 so far. A lot of couples were together about a year. And just because only one relationship has survived doesn't mean all the rest are doomed,it's just not the best omen in the world.

Oooh you know something else which annoys me? If a couple stay together about a yearish and they break up and they broke up 'obviously cos they were fake and all that'. If couples break up in real life they don't get their relationship being called fake. No one said anything about it lasting forever.

LOL! I'd love if JJJ did what Grace and Mikey did and once all the hype died down just went off to Bristol and had a quiet life. I know people won't believe this but I genuinely don't think they care for the showbiz life that much.

The mag deals have dried up, that's all. Sorry, I'm a cynic when it comes to all of that stuff.

As for the couple of relationships that have lasted, it's just a drop in the ocean compared to the amount of drivel we've had to endure, with Josie and JJ being the worst ever, in my opinion anyway.

I suppose nowadays because we've come accustomed to many wannabe HMs with magazine deals, hopes for stardom and fake couples it's made us very cynical. Sometimes HMs could fool themselves that its genuine but they later admit "It's because you're in a closed environment and there's no escapign them and that house does things to your head."

In my personal opinion, I believe Helen/Paul, Sophie/Lee, Chantelle/Preston, Grace/Mikey and Luke/Rebecca are the only genuine couples that started on BB, and even then some of them had media exposure after leaving. As much as I think Josie fancies John James, I still don't believe the feelings are mutual atm

Why do you care?

It's not that I particually care,it's more a general wonderment,cos I'm a bit baffled by it all.

I think it's lovely and refreshing Laura. and I bet you're a more happy and positive person than most:hugesmile:

Did you know that people coming here to discuss Helen and Paul was basically the reason this forum got off the ground in the first place?

John James and Josie remind me of them. A lot of the negative things that are said about John James now were also said about Paul back then.

I agree No Need to Pick on you.
Nothing wrong with Dreams.

Princess I have never insulted you or anyone else here over what they believe.
I know you admit to being obsessed and that's fine but let's be honest here ,do you not see it as double standards?
You often accuse folks who don't believe as JJJ "haters"it's a fecking TV show with people Who for the vast majority of people have never met nor are we likely to.In fact if we were to pass them in the street in a couple of years we prob wouldn't recognise them.Yes there are those ,probably a bit immature,who say they hate JJJ and that is upsetting you,but for a lot of people there is no love or hate involved ,just some interesting people we spend our summer watching and we form our own opinions of them.

You often say you would rather believe than be cynical,you use words like negative ,cold hearted.Basically accusing those who don't believe of being all of these which is pretty annoying TBH.
You believe and good for you I won't judge you for that,how about you stop judging those who don't believe.
Personally I do not see the love or passion whit JJJ ,but I do hope they enjoy their time together

This.


I find it a bit worrying how much people try to make out that couples arent real, i always feel its someone who's alone that does.

Not always :/

But Benvolio, you're missing the point. It's BB: the majority of what happens in there is all about game playing and deceit, you know?

Usually middle aged virgins

People have some weird 'fake until proven real' mentality which can be pathetic sometimes. Sometimes it obviously is fake but other times you can never tell. Not every couple stands the test of time and for some its like a holiday romance type thing. People think that to be a genuine couple you have to be together forever but thats really unlikely for 80% of people and as soon as a likely split happens, then it was fake all along

I think some should just take it at face value, fake or real TV relationships aren't affecting anyone so just leave them to it

Nothing wrong with being a romantic, just dont get too involved with people on TV's lives because I'll let you in on a secret it's about the money and fame. Also people would do good to not think their life would end up as a happy fairytale because you're never gonna get that.

I would say that those that obsess about the relationships of those they don't even know - are the ones who are alone - those who have their own romance - don't need to focus on the relationships of others.

And we aren't talking couples per se - just so-called couples from reality shows - who have no motive whatsoever to fake a romance - don't know where any of us could have got such an idea from :rolleyes:!

Speak for yourself sunshine!:nono:

I dont see a problem with, it's better than the people who feel obliged to tirelessly analyse the tiniest action to try and prove that a romance is fake. Some people just refuse to accept that people could love each other on BB, although it seems plauisble to me. If you're in a confined space with someone for 2 months 24/7 then it's not surprsing that very close relationships develop.

Well it makes you unrealistic for a start. I mean sure, the cynics know no more than you do, but with the history of flings, or faked relationships: Ziggy/Chanelle, Jennifer/Dale, Sezer/Imogen, Sophie/Kris, Noirin/everyone - and take into the account the rather obvious one-sided nature of this one (John James doesn't appear even nearly as enthusiastic about Josie as she does about him) - you can understand their point.

And even so - what's the problem anyway? It says more about you to get defensive over two 'celebrities' you've never met, to be honest. To get that emotionally invested is worrying.

I was always taught to believe what I see with my own eyes. I will use the most recent 'relationship' as an example.

What I saw was Josie lusting after JJ, and JJ treating her more like a sister/mother figure. Whilst leading her on. Saying in the diary room time and time again that he did not fancy her. And then suddenly becoming more keen after she got the pass to the final ;)

Then they leave the house and all of a sudden its all 'I'm in love with Josie'

And people believe it?

Nah. BB housemates know that relationships sell/keep them in the house longer. Thats all. Sure there were bound to be a couple of 'real' romances with the sheer amount of people that have been thrown together over the years, but the majority is for cameras and $$$.

yes but what you see with your eyes and what someone else sees with their eyes can, alot of the time, be very different. Personally, I felt that John James is a private kind of a guy when it comes to relationships and didn't feel comfortable being romantic with people in front of cameras and knowing that his mother was watching. That's what I saw because that's how I'd be if I were in there.

:hugesmile:

Hmm..so private that its suddenly ok when he comes out of the house to let the world know about his relationship via magazines? :)

Talking about your relationship and letting someone actually watch it are different imo, especially at the very start when you're not entirely comfortable or sure yourself.

However, it is impossible to act 24/7 for 73 days or however long the series was. If there was genuine attraction...I find it very hard to believe that he could hide it for that long. He looked sickened when she even touched him :laugh:

Headlock peck and neck snuggle ftw :D

I'm not saying he was acting, I'm saying he was choosing to not do anything in front of the cameras! I just think it would be very unusual for a guy to get that attached to a girl and it was quite obvious that he adored her to me, If he didn't have feelings for her. I never saw him look sickened either!:tongue:

Different strokes for different folks then I guess.

And its actually not unusual for guys to get attached to girls they spend a lot of time with. Not all blokes think with their dangly bits :D

They don't...........................???????:joker:

Hard to believe I know :eek:

And Ben...as for your ridiculous comment about it being only people who are alone who think stuff is fake(which I missed the first time of reading this thread)...load of rubbish. If anything, the people who desperately believe any romance that is thrust down our throats are more likely to be alone I would imagine.

well, I don't think it is one or the other tbh!

Nothing wrong with being a romantic its nice while you think like that but you will soon grow out of it lifes not the fluffy little world you think it is when your young.

and no iceman im not single and alone its just fact.

There's nothing wrong with it. You're an optimist. It's nothing to be ashamed about.

Ear lobes? :conf:

I always have a hard time being romantic and attached to a girl once I'm in a relationship with her. I'm very self-conscious, anxious (that's typically French) and a bit scared that she's going to screw me somehow but once I'm comfortable, I can freely say that I like cuddles, I like being cheesy somehow (not much yo!) and spending 2 hours on the phone or just looking at her.

But if you screw me up, baby, I'll be worse than your painful periods believe me.

Captain Remy :dance:

Aww I miss your black woman avatar Remy. Like that one that said "catchy like aids".

When I first joined the forum you and Stu were a bit like a funny powerful DUO on the forum!!

:D

Stuuuuuuuuuuuuu where are youuuuuuuu?

I love it when James creeps out of the woodwork and posts a comment. Hey! :xyxwave:

Ahem..
:)



Well on the basis of tibb, the majority that called the relationship fake didnt have a partner, saying that the majority of tibb doesnt. lol.
So maybe not the best to go on, but hey i think more people without a partner are more likely to call fake.