Originally Posted by Zippy (Post 3826759)

LOL. I think youll find that it was the team he has of voice coaches and choreographers that put those performances together. Not him.

And they were effing awful anyways. No accounting for why people vote for such crap but its nothing to do with Louis!

Originally Posted by Zippy (Post 3826759)

LOL. I think youll find that it was the team he has of voice coaches and choreographers that put those performances together. Not !

Originally Posted by Niamhxo (Post 3826768)

Oh really, so you're telling me that Cheryl does everything for her acts but If it's Louis act that does well then it's his team? oooooooooooo......k then.

Originally Posted by Zippy (Post 3826776)

But solo singers do not need lots of gimmicks and choreography like crap chancers Jedward did. Thats where choreographers really take the control.

It was all mirrors and smoke screens to win votes. You think Louis created all of that?

Originally Posted by Niamhxo (Post 3826778)

No but he did pick Jedward to go through and I'm sure he had a say in and approved things. He did his job which was pick the acts who would do the best in the competition. Cheryl did not last year and did not this year.

Originally Posted by Zippy (Post 3826788)

Oh Niamh. Cheryl won the past two years. But she didnt pick the right acts?

Good luck with that theory.

And I dont remember Jedward reaching the final either. 6th was it?

Originally Posted by Niamhxo (Post 3826798)

Don't be ridiculous, Cheryl got the best category the last 2 years, that's why she won. last year she picked Lloyd and Ricky(was that his name) when she could have had 3 great acts she only had 1 because of her picking 2 useless acts. On the otherhand louis for the second year in a row got groups which never do well, regardless of who is mentoring them, even still he managed to get 2 very successful groups both years

Originally Posted by Zippy (Post 3826831)

Cheryl won it past two years regardless of anything. She cant achieve more than that. So to try and twist it into a negative is futile and desperate.

And JLS were a ready made polished act. Ready to go. And Jedward are complete flop as a musical commodity. In fact, Id stake my life that a huge amount of money has been lost through their attempts at a music career. Which is why Louis has had to take them down the TV reality personality route. Now theyre just z-list TV cattle.

Originally Posted by Niamhxo (Post 3826840)

Cheryl won the last 2 years because she had the best category, nothing at all to do with her personally imo. I'm not twisting anything, she won because she had Alexandra and Joe and the other acts weren't good enough. Again this year she was handed the best category but she's really messed up in her choices............again, she may get away with it again because she has Rebecca.

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 3826855)

I don't think the boys were the best group really, it's just that there were so many bad choices throughout last year that Joe won by default. If Dannii and Simon hedged their bets a bit more they'd have triumphed.

Originally Posted by Zippy (Post 3826730)

What a silly thing to say. The very idea that you need to have a great voice yourself to judge others is so bogus. We all have ears an opinions. And following your logic NONE of the judges should be there. Indeed most judges on most talent shows all over the world shouldnt be there!

Cheryl came from these TV talent shows. In that respect she is more qualified than all the judges because she knows exactly how they are feeling and what it takes to succeed. She has also tasted huge success in both a group AND a solo artist. She knows the business and what they will be required to do...all the hard work, all the media crap. EVERYTHING.

So piss off with all this "she isnt qualified" BS. She most certainly is....far more so than Louis or even Simon. They are just 2 middle aged business men with the musical taste of 2 middle aged women. Cheryl knows more about whats current and what is in the charts.

and...

Cheryl rocks!!

Originally Posted by Niamhxo (Post 3826869)

ah she did, there was no one going to beat Joe really, I think last year was a very bad year in the talent stakes, this year looks a hell of a lot better but I think it's going to be between Matt and Rebecca for the win.

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 3826997)

I disagree, Stacey could have had it if Dannii wasn't hellbent on turning her into Leona Lewis and Olly could have won if Simon had focused on him more instead of on Danyl. That's just off the top of my head. Bad choices is what lead to Cheryl winning again, not because she had the best category. I'd say the Girls were the best last year but Rachel was a mistake and Lucie was never utilised properly.

Originally Posted by jedward fever (Post 3826921)

and louis manages musicians