It didn't matter though - regardless of how many fans/haters a housemate has/had, during a Vote to Evict the haters will/would always win. It's the way it works. But he still had fans [I remember all the comments on his Facebook fan page, most were still positive]...and I am convinced that when it turned to a positive vote [Vote to Win], he would've stood a very good chance at winning.

For all the detractors he had, he also had a lot of fans. Same for Sam and Corin.

Josie was always going to beat John - because of how one-sided the relationship was. I think she'd have still won...somehow. Sam would've come close though.

STILL deluded about his popularity I see. Truth is he was hated by most viewers. Never ever would he have won if he made the final. Hated HMs never win.

He was actually the one person who DID deserve to go before the final. He was absolutely vile in the last 2 weeks. Unbearable. Which is why he got by far the most votes to evict. The mistake was taking 3 other HMs out along with him.

:nono:

Vile but so entertaining. Much better than dreary Mario, JJ, Dave, Steve, Andrew etc... :sleep:

Depends what you mean by better. I wouldnt have wanted those dullards to win either but it would have been more bearable than him winning.

Ive loved HMs in the past who were clearly not nice people(Bea, Makosi, Kemal, Kinga etc) but he just doesnt cut it for me. The hypocrisy and contradictions...just took himself soooo seriously and was deluded about himself. Everything he got sanctimonious about and claimed he stood for has all been proved to be complete BS.

Ironically, he has proved to be the biggest phoney of BB11.

But that was part of the entertainment IMO, yes he was deluded, full of himself etc etc, but that's part of the reason it made great TV. I personally found it hilarious how arrogant he was, and at the end of the day we had him to thank for most of the arguments in BB11 [and there weren't many, either]. The one with Sam to name one. Had those arguments not happened...Christ it would've been terribly dull. He carried most of the series, like it or loathe it. That's something no one can deny - and it's the reason he deserved his place in the Final over the dreary bores, and it's also the reason why he should've one. The large majority of the other housemates offered absolutely **** all to the series.

Well who knows. If you subtract him from the series other HMs would have stepped forward and filled that void. Shone more. Rachael would have stayed, Josie wouldve been totally different etc etc.

Plus somebody else would have been in his place and they couldve been the greatest HM ever. And so on.

BB11 was what it was. I'd happily re-live the series again without him in it. He spoiled it for me tbh.

But Im not gonna change your mind about him so...agree to disagree.

But youre deluded if you think he stood a chance of winning. Josie would have got most of the JJJ fans votes and Sam and Corin were more liked too.

After how the two (John James & Sam) had acted towards Josie, she was deffo a winner! Josie still wouldn't of went in the vote to evict, even if she hadn't of got the pass to the final.

Blame the producers, love how some think it's Josie's fault.. tbh does anyone think the producers would care who would win the last series because it was ending anyway. They loved the reaction after and plus hardly Josie's fault if the housemates didn't nominate her or chose to give her that pass to the final (I thought Steve would get it:joker:).

Even now some still can't accept the fact she won:D, if she didn't get the pass to the final then things might have been different and the final had John, Corin and Sam stayed in but had they forced the housemates to nominate that week then them 3 would have been up IMO over the arguments;).