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Niamh. 21-12-2010 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4010656)
i would never leave California unless i absolutely had to. Like if the Mexicans some how gain significant control and turn it into the same sh!thole as Mexico.

If thatdid happen, and i had to leave, then i'd move to Oregon. If Oregon went the same way, then i'd Move to Hawaii.

If for some reason i absolutely HAD to leave the United States, then the only other country i could imagine living in is Australia, because they are so well Americanized.

Canada is too cold and boring.

:joker: Australians are nothing like Americans

Benjamin 21-12-2010 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4010656)
i would never leave California unless i absolutely had to. Like if the Mexicans some how gain significant control and turn it into the same sh!thole as Mexico.

If thatdid happen, and i had to leave, then i'd move to Oregon. If Oregon went the same way, then i'd Move to Hawaii.

If for some reason i absolutely HAD to leave the United States, then the only other country i could imagine living in is Australia, because they are so well Americanized.

Canada is too cold and boring.


It's not that Americanised. It has more similarity with UK :nono:

But still they have their own culture and ways, which is different from that of both UK and USA.

Niamh. 21-12-2010 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by XmasTurtle (Post 4010686)
It's not that Americanised. It has more similarity with UK :nono:

I would have thought so too

letmein 22-12-2010 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 4009176)
This isnt exclusive to the UK though, just found this list of countries offering universal healthcare; 32 of the 33 developed countries offer it, the exception being the US where it is due to be introduced in 2014

Norway
New Zealand
Japan
Germany
Belgium
United Kingdom
Kuwait
Sweden
Bahrain
Brunei
Canada
Netherlands
Austria
United Arab Emirates
Finland
Slovenia
Denmark
Luxembourg
France
Australia
Ireland
Italy
Portugal
Cyprus
Greece
Spain
South Korea
Iceland
Hong Kong
Singapore
Switzerland
Israel

The US is not getting universal health care in 2014.

lostalex 26-12-2010 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by NingleBells (Post 4010662)
:joker: Australians are nothing like Americans

I think there are a a lot of similarities between Aussie and California culture. laid back, sunny, surfer/beach, stoner, liberal, hippies.

Many more similarities than with the UK culturally. Unless you mean the political system, which i guess is more UK-ized.

MTVN 26-12-2010 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by letmein (Post 4012732)
The US is not getting universal health care in 2014.

Why not? :conf2:

lostalex 26-12-2010 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 4019623)
Why not? :conf2:

Because Americans don't want government death panels telling our doctors what to do and who to treat.

We'd much rather have corporations decide for us.

InOne 26-12-2010 10:38 AM

Kiwis are more like Americans

MTVN 26-12-2010 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4019624)
Because Americans don't want government death panels telling our doctors what to do and who to treat.

We'd much rather have corporations decide for us.

Isnt 2014 when Obama's healthcare bill gets introduced though?

lostalex 26-12-2010 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 4019630)
Isnt 2014 when Obama's healthcare bill gets introduced though?

Obama's healthcare bill isn't universal healthcare. It was just a law that made it illegal not to buy insurance, and forced insurance companies to allow parents to keep their kids on their healthcare plan til the age of 26. It's still private health insurance.

The government isn't providing coverage for anyone new, you still have to buy private insurance.

The government only pays for healthcare for Old people, Veterans, and of course... Congressmen.

letmein 27-12-2010 04:49 PM

Well, veterans are still treated like **** by the government. It's unconscionable that there are homeless service people.

lostalex 27-12-2010 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by letmein (Post 4021270)
Well, veterans are still treated like **** by the government. It's unconscionable that there are homeless service people.

Well a lot of them have addiction problems and/or mental/psychological problems...so their families kick them out (rightly so if they are a danger)

A lot of them had these problems BEFORE they joined the military.

What is the solution? put them in a mental asylum? They fought for our freedom, so how can we take away their freedom? I don't think that would be right.

It's a delicate subject. i don't know the answer but we should treat them with as much dignity as possible, and certainly there should be more resources available to them.

arista 27-12-2010 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4010656)
i would never leave California unless i absolutely had to. Like if the Mexicans some how gain significant control and turn it into the same sh!thole as Mexico.

If thatdid happen, and i had to leave, then i'd move to Oregon. If Oregon went the same way, then i'd Move to Hawaii.

If for some reason i absolutely HAD to leave the United States, then the only other country i could imagine living in is Australia, because they are so well Americanized.

Canada is too cold and boring.


Are you Aware that Many American Factorys are in Mexico
making it Toxic as they go?

lostalex 27-12-2010 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 4021477)
Are you Aware that Many American Factorys are in Mexico
making it Toxic as they go?

Are you implying that Mexico was any better before American companies arrived? It wasn't.

And i hate to burst yur bubble, but most of those same companies that went to Mexico, have now gone to China, leaving the Mexicans empty handed just like the American cities those companies originally came from. So serves the Mexicans right, they stole our jobs, and now China stole their jobs. That's karma.

arista 27-12-2010 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4021492)
Are you implying that Mexico was any better before American companies arrived? It wasn't.

And i hate to burst yur bubble, but most of those same companies that went to Mexico, have now gone to China, leaving the Mexicans empty handed just like the American cities those companies originally came from. So serves the Mexicans right, they stole our jobs, and now China stole their jobs. That's karma.


No I am saying The American Factorys in Mexico
Pollute.

lostalex 27-12-2010 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 4021620)
No I am saying The American Factorys in Mexico
Pollute.

I don't understand. Are you saying the American companies caused some kind of permanent enviornmental problem in Mexico?

I have no idea what you are referring to.

Do you have a specific case yu are talking about?
Or are you just talking out of yur butt?

I'm confused.

Niamh. 27-12-2010 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4019618)
I think there are a a lot of similarities between Aussie and California culture. laid back, sunny, surfer/beach, stoner, liberal, hippies.

Many more similarities than with the UK culturally. Unless you mean the political system, which i guess is more UK-ized.

well you said america not California so maybe that's where confusion lay, from what I've seen most of the USA doesn't share that laid back, sunny, etc attitude and not all of Australia are like that either

letmein 28-12-2010 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4021329)
Well a lot of them have addiction problems and/or mental/psychological problems...so their families kick them out (rightly so if they are a danger)

A lot of them had these problems BEFORE they joined the military.

That is simply NOT true! Many of them develop PTSD from being in the military.

lostalex 30-12-2010 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by letmein (Post 4023801)
That is simply NOT true! Many of them develop PTSD from being in the military.

It certainly IS true that many had psychological problems before joining the military. If it weren't true then why does the miitary specificlly target people with the advertising about "needing more discipline in your life". Which is basically code for "have you been confused and ****ed up for a while? can't find a job?? join the army!"

Of course once they are veterans they should receive as much help and treatment as is possible. I'm not saying that all, or even most recruits have psychological problems before they join.

I'm just saying, a lot do.


The bottom line is, anyone who serves this country should have access to the best healthcare in the world. Whatever congress's healthcare plan is, the soldiers should have the same healthcare access.

If it's good enuf for the congress, then it's good enuf for our soldiers i say.

letmein 04-01-2011 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4026296)
It certainly IS true that many had psychological problems before joining the military. If it weren't true then why does the miitary specificlly target people with the advertising about "needing more discipline in your life". Which is basically code for "have you been confused and ****ed up for a while? can't find a job?? join the army!"

Of course once they are veterans they should receive as much help and treatment as is possible. I'm not saying that all, or even most recruits have psychological problems before they join.

Bull****! Don't talk about things you have no clue about.

lostalex 05-01-2011 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by letmein (Post 4034320)
Bull****! Don't talk about things you have no clue about.


I don't. I only speak the truth.

Vicky. 05-01-2011 10:19 AM

I would love to.

But money and circumstances dont allow right now.

A few years back I worked in greece for 6 months, and loved it...I know thats not really the same as emigrating but still

lostalex 05-01-2011 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 4034838)
I would love to.

But money and circumstances dont allow right now.

A few years back I worked in greece for 6 months, and loved it...I know thats not really the same as emigrating but still


One of my best friends from high school was half greek, and spent summers in Greece. she loved it. never had a bad word to say about it.

Eventually her greek grandma ended up coming to live with her here in the US, and she was the sweetest old woman ever.

I don't know much about emigrating to Greece, but i can testify that old Greek ladies are awesome :) She'd always make inapropriate sexual jokes, and pinch my ass and stuff lol. And she made the best baklava this side of the atlantic :P

Vicky. 05-01-2011 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4034840)
One of my best friends from high school was half greek, and spent summers in Greece. she loved it. never had a bad word to say about it.

Yeah I dont have a bad word either, best time of my life tbh.

Only regret is not going back :sad:

The people are so lovely too, much different to people over here

Captain.Remy 05-01-2011 11:16 AM

I think I will be doing the exact same thing my parents did: to get the hell out of the country. That's why I've been learning many languages since I was a little boy because I can't see myself living in France, it's not right for me.

The country I need to live is the UK. I fell in love with this country when I lived there for a bit then I went back numerous times. It feels like home you know what I'm saying ?
It's not perfect, fair enough, the weather is 150% different from the Southern French one but there is something that belongs to me there.

So yes, I'm doing studies that will allow me to live there in a very, very near future.

Vicky. 05-01-2011 11:32 AM

Remy, I will gladly swap with you :D

lostalex 05-01-2011 11:36 AM

i thought countries in the EU you can emigrate freely? so what's stopping you?

I thought one of the main reasons for the EU was that people could move around the same way people in the US can move from state to state freely right?

Princess 05-01-2011 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain.Remy (Post 4034899)
I think I will be doing the exact same thing my parents did: to get the hell out of the country. That's why I've been learning many languages since I was a little boy because I can't see myself living in France, it's not right for me.

The country I need to live is the UK. I fell in love with this country when I lived there for a bit then I went back numerous times. It feels like home you know what I'm saying ?
It's not perfect, fair enough, the weather is 150% different from the Southern French one but there is something that belongs to me there.

So yes, I'm doing studies that will allow me to live there in a very, very near future.

This exactly. I can't wait to live in the UK,it just feels like where I belong.

Captain.Remy 05-01-2011 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 4034920)
Remy, I will gladly swap with you :D

So you're a swapper right ? Interesting to know..... :tongue:

lostalex 05-01-2011 12:34 PM

Why don't you just move then? France and Ireland are both in the EU, so you can move to the UK if you want right?

What's stopping you?

Niamh. 05-01-2011 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4034995)
Why don't you just move then France and Ireland ae both in the EU, so you can move to the Uk if you want right? What's stopping you?

I think Remy is in University in France so maybe that's why he hasn't moved yet

Captain.Remy 05-01-2011 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4034995)
Why don't you just move then France and Ireland ae both in the EU, so you can move to the Uk if you want right? What's stopping you?

Yeah I can move. When I finished my studies and got a job abroad. :thumbs:

lostalex 05-01-2011 12:37 PM

OIC. why do you dislike france so much remy? I'm sure listing the reasons you prefer britain to france will only endear you to yur new british borthers...

so what you do you think is better about britain than france?

tell us all the dirt on france.

Princess 05-01-2011 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4034995)
Why don't you just move then? France and Ireland are both in the EU, so you can move to the UK if you want right?

What's stopping you?

I'm still living with my parents and going to uni in Ireland. I can't move till I'm finished studying and saved enough.

lostalex 05-01-2011 01:55 PM

I can't imagine the US having borders between each state, that would be crazy.

I think the EU is good for allowing everyone in europe to move more freely. It would really suck being stuck in just one european country you were born in, and not being able to move if you wanted to.

Z 05-01-2011 04:58 PM

I'm moving to Germany this year... :o to work as a classroom assistant teaching English, I'm not looking forward to it but I'm sure it'll be fine once I'm there. I think that sums up my views towards emigrating, I don't know if I'd want to do it but I could cope with it if I did.

Patrick 05-01-2011 05:00 PM

What ever happened to UKTurtle?

Captain.Remy 05-01-2011 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4035002)
OIC. why do you dislike france so much remy? I'm sure listing the reasons you prefer britain to france will only endear you to yur new british borthers...

so what you do you think is better about britain than france?

tell us all the dirt on france.

I don't dislike France, I just don't fit there even though I don't like a lot of stuff. I think it's a nice country...but for holidays.

I like the UK because I'm attracted to the way people think, they way they live their lives. I love the country in itself on a geographical aspect, it has nice features and places. Don't get me wrong, France is great too but it's not the type of beauty I like. It's the overall way of living that appeals to me. I can't describe the feeling I have when I land in London or Bristol. :hugesmile:

Vicky. 05-01-2011 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Patrick (Post 4035605)
What ever happened to UKTurtle?

hes still around, just not as much :sad:

lostalex 05-01-2011 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain.Remy (Post 4035680)
I don't dislike France, I just don't fit there even though I don't like a lot of stuff. I think it's a nice country...but for holidays.

I like the UK because I'm attracted to the way people think, they way they live their lives. I love the country in itself on a geographical aspect, it has nice features and places. Don't get me wrong, France is great too but it's not the type of beauty I like. It's the overall way of living that appeals to me. I can't describe the feeling I have when I land in London or Bristol. :hugesmile:

I can understand what you mean. I grew up in washington DC, and i love washinton, but i only like it in smal doses. i moved to California when i turned 18, and it feels like home. I'd never go back to the east coast to live, but i always miss it, and love going back when i can, so i understand.

Everyone fits certain cities and cultures differently.

I love that living in the US i can travel to so many different cities freely, no hassle. and i think that's the great thing about the EU, although a lot of politics in the EU sucks, the one great thing about it, is that it it gives europeans the opportunity to travel around yur sub-continent freely and find the place that you feel most at home.


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