In a civilised society all violence is wrong.

I used to have anger issues, as a child and teenager I brought hell to everyone who didn't agree with me...and I was pretty good at it. I got banned of 3 pubs, I almost got arrested countless times, the police went after me but I managed to never getting arrested.

Then I came to the conclusion that my behaviour is hurting the people I love the most, it fucked my relationship up with my ex-girlfriend and I realized I couldn't live my life like this anymore. So basically, I went to Anger Management.

The question "When, to you, is violence acceptable?" is a simple question they ask you at the end of the programme. Simple yet complicated to answer.
I came to the conclusion that violence will ever be acceptable if anyone is trying to prevent me from being free. I think freedom is possibly one of the most important thing we should take care about.

That being said, I ain't no Mother Theresa either, I still can scare the shit out of people but I'm not fighting anymore, I don't need violence anymore. However, some loud mouthed bitches would better watch their back. :hugesmile:

name a civilized society? it doesn't exist. we're talking about reality, not science fiction.

Yeah,I agree

Anyone with this utopian idea of "violence is never acceptable" i wonder what you'd do if someone treatened yur own mother's life. Would you kill a guilty man to save an innocent man?

If you wouldn't, you are a guilty man. IMO.

I'm sure that however we were to react to a situation like that (and lets face it, we'd all react differently) is something called instinct. I mean, nobody is going to willingly sit back and watch their own mother be killed without trying to stop it.. But not everybody would react with violence and nobody really know what their reaction wo9uld be until actually in a situation like that.

I have already said that unnecessary violence is very different to whatever it is that kicks in when you need to protect.

But in general, (when not faced with the threat of murder or whatever) I think violence is usually uncalled for.

I would laugh at a man threatening my mothers life, she died when I was 18.

Simple hypothetical comments like that mean nothing.

It is easy to say you would take someones life but take it from me in reality its not so simple.

I think it would be simple if you were in a situation where you needed to protect yourself or a loved one, as in you have a gun in your hand and someone was about to slit your childs throat, i doubt any of us would hesitate to pull the trigger but the likely hood of ever find yourself in such a situation is pretty slim.

well my mother is also dead, like happy, but if you wanna test my theory, try attacking my brother. I can promise you, this is not a hypothetical situation. I'd be more than happy to show you how serious i am. It's EXACTLY that simple to me :)

I would *******ing kill you. I really would. and there's not a single cell in my body that would regret it.

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It is a hypothetical situation, oh brilliant one. Why would I want to attack your brother?

he knocked over your pint in the pub 2 years ago and you only just recognised him :)

maybe yu arn't paying attention. The entire premise of this thread is hypothetical.

Nah he bought me a fresh pint straight away after a little chat. ;)

I think you are getting confused, you said in your previous post it wasnt a hypothetical situation.

Do make up your mind.

In the meantime take two of these and go lie down in a darkened room for a few days.

umm, what? when did i ever say this isn't a hypothetical situations??? It obviously is, obviously none of us have never been in a situation where we truly had to be violent. now yur just lying.

Why are you lying?

I hate liars.

Geez!

This thread could go on for ever with hypothetical situations and they'll eventually get silly.

I think the general gist of the thread is "do you think violenc is acceptable?" My answer is no and nobody has a right to question or argue with that. IMO violence only makes things worse. :nono:

I hate liver but whats that got to do with the price of beans?

Short term meomory loss? Or have you been drinking, smoking some loco weed or something? Try this:

if violence was never acceptable, you'd be speaking either german or russian right now, you do realize that right?

And i have every right to argue with that, i pay 50 bucks a month for broadband, so i have every right to disagree and argue with anyone i like to online. lol

don't be jealous. it's not my fault you pay more for beans, why are you taking it out on me??

Extend the context if violence was never acceptable leaders of countries wouldnt invade other countries or extend their own countries' borders.

Bet you dont I bet its your parents who pay for it. Havent you got school later?

I do speak German.. and Russian

Ah so now you just ignore saying one thing, then a couple of posts later say the opposite and when its pointed out to you, you accuse the person of lying.

How brash, How arrogant, how Very American! Now sod off to bed my colonial cousin.

Can we get this back on topic please :laugh:

Oh right, i forgot, cause when people say they'll do something, they always live by it right.

Just like when Churchill signed a pact with Hitler saying HItler could keep moving east, and britain wouldn't react, aslong s HItler never moved west.

Funny how britatin did absolutely nothing while hitler was moving east taking over austria, hungary, poland... wasn't until Hitler started moving west and took france, that all of a sudden britain cared...

Funny how when someone INTRUDES your own territory, all of a sudden you get very defensive, right??? Funny how people get very reactionary when their own territory is threatened.

Oh perrrrlease get your facts right.

shut up i corrected it.

I'd say violence is only acceptable in self defense or the defense of others. As for the thief/burglar/mugger scenairio, Your life is more important then any material possesions. Let them take what they want, most expensive items should be insured or under warranty anyway. You never know what they might be carrying these days.

Ok let me correct you with a few facts.

Britain and most of the British Empire declared war on Germany on 1 September 1939, when the Germans invaded Poland.

Churchill didnt become Prime Minister until May 1940.

Seriously Alex, history according to Hollywood never happened. DYLAC

And as I said if violence was unacceptable then Hitler wouldnt have invaded anywhere would he?

i'm sorry, maybe i'm confused. How do you know if someone is intruding your house for yur material posessions or to kill you?

Do they announce themselves, and once they do announce themselves, that then gives them the right to continue robbing you???

coming from a country that has a hereditary monarchy, i don't think it's Me that needs to worry about selective memory.

Give me a ring when yu get rid of your national church, hereditary head of state, and completely undemocratic upper house of lords.

Don't act like yur history is anything but a fiction plzzz. Is there any official historical document older than 50 years that was written by anyone democratically elected in England? NOPE.

so if you wanna talk about selective history...

Yeah, I agree with that. I'm all for locking my loved ones and myself in somewhere and letting them take whatever the feck they want. People trying to play hero just annoy me.

The former would be carrying a bag with "SWAG" written on it

What has your irrational hatred of the British Establishment got to do with your inaccurate posts?

Stop trying to body swerve the fact you dont have a fecking clue what you post about.

Nothing inaccurate about my posts.

I only speak the truth.

(and if i had a hatred of the british establishment, i doubt i'd choose such an irrelevant site as a big brother website to protest against it) I know this website is totally irrelevant, and i'm talking to big brother fans, if i was really serious about being "anti-british" don't you think i choose a better forum than a big brother forum??? lol

ROFLMFHAO

You posted that with a straight face?

You don't know anything about the UK if you think the Royal Family or the Church has any sort of real power over how the country is run these days. l suggest you stop watching The Tudors for any insight into our modern day politics systems :laugh: The house of Commons are the ones that proposes most actions, Also the House of Lords is hardly hereditory based any more, only 91 out of 700 and odd are there because of their heredity.

The rest of your post is rather silly, we've had elections for more then 50 years so that point is rather....pointless.

That, I thought, would be obvious. If a burglar is going to rob you in the night then they're gonna play it safe, they won't go anywhere near any bedrooms for fear of waking someone up, the only time you hear about violent burglars is when they're confronted. A murderer on the other hand would obviously be less concerned so you'd hear them upstairs (given that this scenairio is based around being aware of an intruder in you house I'm guessing the same would apply to a murderer). I'd act cautiously but I'd act if someone was approaching the bedrooms but if they stuck to the downstairs, let them carry on. You can get possessions back on insurance. Better that then die on the edge of a knife over an iPod.

If a bastard is in my house and I catch him, I am going to twat him over the head with a hardback book

yup. i know you british think you can smirk off everything, but it's really not cute anymore.

ummm, then if they have no power, why are you still paying taxes to them? just for fun? lol

Because they are traditional institutions, nothing more. Neither of them can really change how the country is run.