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letmein 07-02-2011 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Harry! (Post 4098870)
I am not being racist but when I went down town on sunday there was more foriegn people then I had ever seen down town before.

Yes, you are racist. You have the right to be, but don't pretend that you're not.

InOne 07-02-2011 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by letmein (Post 4099399)
Yes, you are racist. You have the right to be, but don't pretend that you're not.

It's people like you who make it worse for the people who do actually have to suffer from racism. You can't just bat it around with every comment made

joeysteele 07-02-2011 10:40 PM

[QUOTE=letmein;4099396]Cameron was NOT voted in by the electorate. God, how can you people not know how voting works in the UK??! With everything supposedly bad that Labour did, the Tories still could not get a majority. The public wasn't buying what they were selling.



I absolutely agree with the above. In fact from the 1997 election according to the figures when the Conservatives fell to just over 30% in the polls in the whole 13 years following they could only get to just over 36% in the 2010 election.64% nearly two thirds of those who voted voting against them,the main opposition.
Hardly an endorsement of any kind at all to them.

Harry! 07-02-2011 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by letmein (Post 4099399)
Yes, you are racist. You have the right to be, but don't pretend that you're not.

There wasnt many but there was more then I had seen before. Thats all. I repect forigners in the UK as long as they stay in the law and do not come to our country illigally (Taking money and jobs).

Beastie 08-02-2011 01:17 AM

France is an "EU" country. It is bigger than the UK but yet has dramatially a lot less people living in it. I don't get why some people don't immigrate to France? The UK is not the only rich EU country....

Our country is too lenient and needs to be more strict.

Edit - Oh there is about the same population in France as there is in the UK but there is still a lot less people living per square mile in France than there is in the UK..

Angus 08-02-2011 06:18 AM

[QUOTE=joeysteele;4099420]
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Originally Posted by letmein (Post 4099396)
Cameron was NOT voted in by the electorate. God, how can you people not know how voting works in the UK??! With everything supposedly bad that Labour did, the Tories still could not get a majority. The public wasn't buying what they were selling.

I absolutely agree with the above. In fact from the 1997 election according to the figures when the Conservatives fell to just over 30% in the polls in the whole 13 years following they could only get to just over 36% in the 2010 election.64% nearly two thirds of those who voted voting against them,the main opposition.
Hardly an endorsement of any kind at all to them.

Endorsement or not, they were the party with the MOST seats after the 2010election and the only party with the ability to form a government. I am thankful they finally managed to remove the corrupt and immoral Labour party from power.

Irrespective of anything, the Tories WON the last election with 306 seats, a 3.7% swing and 36.1% of the vote as opposed to Labour's 258 seats and 29%of the vote and Clegg's 57 seats and 23% of the vote. The Tories had the option to form a minority government (which would have been my preference despite the potential difficulties) but instead chose to form a coalition with the spineless LibDems. Until such time as electoral reform gives us proportional representation (which I am in favour of, by the way), this is how the voting system works in this country, and just because you or anyone doesn't like the result doesn't change it.

After all I had to live under the Labour jackboot for the previous 13 years, although the last term was not a valid one in my opinion, since King Tony thought it fit and proper to hand over the crown to the unelected Brown. Even at the end that charlatan was still clinging on to power he had not been elected to wield.

Angus 08-02-2011 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 4098905)
If you believe Cameron's any better then Brown then you're a fool. They're all self serving snakes. We haven't had a worthy PM in years.

I am delighted that the Tories are in power, and I sure ain't no fool. The fools are the morons who voted BLAIR's government back in even after he had led us into an ILLEGAL war only to see him then hand over the leadership (without so much as a "by your leave" to the electorate) to an incompetent,dangerous unelected idiot.

Angus 08-02-2011 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Harry! (Post 4099427)
There wasnt many but there was more then I had seen before. Thats all. I repect forigners in the UK as long as they stay in the law and do not come to our country illigally (Taking money and jobs).


Take no notice of the race card punters - you are in good company in your observations: Trevor Phillips has been making similar observations and statements for a while now but no-one dare accuse HIM of racism:bored: I would have thought, too, that Phillips is in poll position to actually know what he's talking about regarding numbers, as opposed to the fake statistics we were force fed by the outgoing Labour scum trying to cover up their years of incompetence on this issue.

joeysteele 08-02-2011 09:09 AM

[QUOTE=angus58;4099793]
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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 4099420)

Endorsement or not, they were the party with the MOST seats after the 2010election and the only party with the ability to form a government. I am thankful they finally managed to remove the corrupt and immoral Labour party from power.

Irrespective of anything, the Tories WON the last election with 306 seats, a 3.7% swing and 36.1% of the vote as opposed to Labour's 258 seats and 29%of the vote and Clegg's 57 seats and 23% of the vote. The Tories had the option to form a minority government (which would have been my preference despite the potential difficulties) but instead chose to form a coalition with the spineless LibDems. Until such time as electoral reform gives us proportional representation (which I am in favour of, by the way), this is how the voting system works in this country, and just because you or anyone doesn't like the result doesn't change it.

After all I had to live under the Labour jackboot for the previous 13 years, although the last term was not a valid one in my opinion, since King Tony thought it fit and proper to hand over the crown to the unelected Brown. Even at the end that charlatan was still clinging on to power he had not been elected to wield.


The real fact of the 2010 election is that all the main parties lost it, no one won, its just the Conservatives,(who should have strolled into power with a massive overall majority after as you say a disastrous 3rd term from Labour),well they lost the least.

I personally.likely along with all the voters who voted for Labour, Lib Dem,SNP, Green,Plaid Cymru etc,chose to vote Lib Dem,I did that believing there would be a hung parliament and that if they could join with the Conservatives,they would prevent as they promised to, to stop cuts in the coming year being made and not support raising tuition fees,likewise if they could join forces with Labour that they would then too ensure Labour stuck to its gurantee not to make cuts in the coming year and also make sure Labour stuck to its promise not to raise tuition fees.
In an election tomorrow, I would use my vote but for the party that was best placed to get the Lib Dem out.

No one however won the election, we don't have a Conservative govt, we have a supposed coalition that is doing badly,because principles and promises are being thrown out, left, right and centre.

That is why now despite all before, voters who could never bring themselves to support the Conservatives cuts programme and who voted Lib Dem to stop that, also Labour sympathisers who loaned their votes to Lib Dems in vital seats for them in the election are now in near every poll that comes out saying they have gone into the Labour camp now.

Those two thirds who voted against Conservatives are being seen as right by the electorate, the Lib Dems have damaged their cause massively for likely as long as Clegg is their leader now.

This immigration policy is another badly thought out, presented idea, hastily made which will cause yet more problems, just like the NHS proposals that are despised already in the NHS system by most GPs and Nursing front line staff alike.

After only 9 to 10 months in power,this govt has caused more doubt, more suspicion across the Country than any other before it and its simply a case that in the 2010 election, people did not vote for an unbridled Conservative govt, maybe a minority one that would have to water down its policies massively but not the one we have,the insurance for that was a hung parliament with the Lib Dems able to influence. However the Lib Dems have folded totally on their main policies and have badly let the voters down, lost the faith and trust of a massive chunk of those who voted for them.

Now this ill thought out immigration proposals policy will create new distrust, suspicion and division across the Country. I certainly don't like the direction we seem to be going in under this coalition,we seem to be being taken into uncharted waters by a crew who have never manned a ship before.Who also don't seem to know for certain whats at the other end or even what they are even looking for.

Shasown 08-02-2011 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 4099824)
The real fact of the 2010 election is that all the main parties lost it, no one won, ......

.... seem to know for certain whats at the other end or even what they are even looking for.



Was going to read carefully through this post but got to this paragraph

"... personally.likely along with all the voters who voted for Labour, Lib Dem,SNP, Green,Plaid Cymru etc,chose to vote Lib Dem,I did that believing there would be a hung parliament and that if they could join with the Conservatives,they would prevent as they promised to,..."

And realised you dont have a clue really do you?

Tom4784 08-02-2011 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by angus58 (Post 4099794)
I am delighted that the Tories are in power, and I sure ain't no fool. The fools are the morons who voted BLAIR's government back in even after he had led us into an ILLEGAL war only to see him then hand over the leadership (without so much as a "by your leave" to the electorate) to an incompetent,dangerous unelected idiot.

Labour, Liberal Democrats, Tories. They're all the same beast. Not one of those parties are fit to lead the UK and none of them have offered up a worthy candidate since before I was born. To throw your support behind one while deriding another is foolish, It's like being chased by three big animals that want to eat you but favouring one in particular, they won't thank you for your support and they'll still end up killing and eating you whether you like them or not.

...not the most elegant metaphor but still. The Tories will end up f*cking everyone over just like labour did. It's all the same and there's no point taking part in it since it's just the same thing over and over again. Cameron won't keep any promises, and he'll keep saying buzzwords and phrases 'immigration limits' 'Multiculturism has failed' in order to lure the fools out of their armchairs to take part in the farce they call a vote. It's all empty words and he's just like the rest of them. F*CKING USELESS. I'm sick of the mediocrity we're made to suffer, where's the REAL PMs? I've had enough of the Jesters ruling the court.

joeysteele 08-02-2011 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 4099974)
Was going to read carefully through this post but got to this paragraph

"... personally.likely along with all the voters who voted for Labour, Lib Dem,SNP, Green,Plaid Cymru etc,chose to vote Lib Dem,I did that believing there would be a hung parliament and that if they could join with the Conservatives,they would prevent as they promised to,..."

And realised you dont have a clue really do you?

and your point is, rather than just making an insulting remark?

All those other parties, Labour, Lib Dem, Green, SNP,Plaid Cymru and even UKIP,all had in their maifesto's, total opposition to making cuts in the coming year and also not raising tuition fees,Scotland aside from that as they haven't them.

So only the Conservatives had those 2 policies set in their manifesto of all the parties, so where do I not have a clue since near 64% of voters voted for those parties, even with the 29% and 24% for the Labour and Lib Dem Parties over half the voters backed their policies too,29% and 24% being 53%.

The Lib Dems changed totally their manifesto policies 'after' they got the votes and seats.

I am not sure its me that hasn't got a clue as you rudely state,come the next election voters I feel sure, won't make the same mistake again, they will band mostly behind the main opposition party as Lib Dem voters who feel betrayed change their vote to likely Labour as they clearly don't want the Conservatives either.
Then we get bad govt again just like we have now and over the last 40 to 50 years at least.

Maybe you are right and I haven't a clue, but I have the right to state my opinion,actually though,the sad thing for me is that its more like the UKs politicians haven't got a clue and thats why both parties get us into a real mess time and time again when they get into power.

joeysteele 08-02-2011 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 4100065)
Labour, Liberal Democrats, Tories. They're all the same beast. Not one of those parties are fit to lead the UK and none of them have offered up a worthy candidate since before I was born. To throw your support behind one while deriding another is foolish, It's like being chased by three big animals that want to eat you but favouring one in particular, they won't thank you for your support and they'll still end up killing and eating you whether you like them or not.

...not the most elegant metaphor but still. The Tories will end up f*cking everyone over just like labour did. It's all the same and there's no point taking part in it since it's just the same thing over and over again. Cameron won't keep any promises, and he'll keep saying buzzwords and phrases 'immigration limits' 'Multiculturism has failed' in order to lure the fools out of their armchairs to take part in the farce they call a vote. It's all empty words and he's just like the rest of them. F*CKING USELESS. I'm sick of the mediocrity we're made to suffer, where's the REAL PMs? I've had enough of the Jesters ruling the court.

I totally agree with the above comments from Dezzy.
I should have read this first before my last post Dezzy, you say everything I mean and put it far better than I could have.

Livia 08-02-2011 06:22 PM

The turnout for the general election was pretty low. If everyone who moaned, voted... the outcome might have been different.

Tom4784 08-02-2011 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 4100695)
The turnout for the general election was pretty low. If everyone who moaned, voted... the outcome might have been different.

It doesn't matter who won, that's the point. All the candidates were spineless and impotent leaders. Give me a PM and I'll vote for them, I'm not voting again if these candidates are the only options. I want real leaders, not cumstains.


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