it sounds like it alright, that's 2 and a half years before they even started treatment then? That's a joke.

Thanks :hug:

Yep, could have been 2 and a half years that she could have been having treatment....

No grandparents, and no parents. Father took his own life when I was 38, mother kept trying to do the same thing time and time again, and ended up being sectioned. Haven't seen her for many years now.

In the space of 4 years, I effectively lost 2 cats I'd had since I was 20, one father, one grandmother who just about raised me, and my mother to depression and alcohol. Not a good experience.

:(

That's terrible:hug:

well, I hope the new government will do something about the health system so atleast other people won't go through the same thing:hug:

thanks for the cuddle...... I have this 'mantra' that life deals the toughest blows to those who it thinks can 'handle' it. C'est la vie and all that.

I have fabulous friends who I would die for, and them me. I have a job with a decent salary, a nice car, a home that I love, have holidays abroad twice a year. Given the life some have and the cards that some are dealt with:- I still have to see that life could be so much worse.

People die, (and beloved pets) regardless.....they do leave this earth at some point - by whatever means, and for whatever reason - and that I've accepted.

That said, that doesn't negate that some on here seem to have had a real 'sore' time (Kerry for example). in that respect and to those concerned..... massive :hug: to all. what doesn't kill us, makes us stronger......................... and as I say, whether you believe in God, some other, fate, karma or whatever: there's a reason for everything - even though we may not quite understand the reasons - then, now or ever - I believe there is a reason for it. ((Hugs all))

Now that..... that angers me. Strangely enough: I was reading something online only last week - about someone who had been going to the doctor - had something like 38 different appointments - and it was cancer of the kidneys or something. Finally diagnosed but far too late.

That saddens me greatly.

Sorry for your loss Iceman. Hell of a young age to lose your mum. :(

Yeah, I truly believe this, I think when bad things happen to you, you can either turn bitter or you can turn it into something positive and become a much stronger person for it.

I have both my parents and I thank God for them.

my condolences angus58.

Thanks, although I never knew anything different, even with protest nothing ever happened and the so called "doctor" still practices today which is a disgrace in itself, but like they say "few voices are heard", nothing I can do now only try and make people leave the doctor.........

Had a great Nan :)

Love and thoughts to those with losses xx

I find every year gets worse and I cant stop thinking about this year cause its gonna be ten years and I have no idea what I'm gonna do.... if that makes sense...?

Live good and live well for your Mam - be happy, for her. Not sad. Would she want to see you sad? No

Maybe, I find it harder and harder to remember her though....nevermind :)

Me auld dad is 81 this year and ma mum 77.

I feel guilty reading of things everyone :-(

What? I hope you're not talking what I think.....

I can barely remember my Mam but I know for a fact she'd want me to live life

You OK?

Im fine, dont have the bottle, couldnt if I wanted to, too may people depend on me..... Im just sad but that happens, dont mind me Im being an idiot....

Kerster - to lose both at such an early age is unimaginable to me - but I can see you strong nevertheless.

Nope, you're not an idiot. Only if you think you're an idiot for grieving you'll be an idiot

Feck, confuddled myself now....

Had a good Nan, the best :)

Urgh I dunno, You're a proper inspiration it's people like you that helps others :)

Hardly. Usually drive people insane :D

But can usually spot a person in need of a shoulder *prods* so .... well, so :)

:hug: you're a great person.... I'm gonna post this cause I love this song and well that's it...

Faith Evans is a distant relative of mine

:sad: :hug: Iceman xx

she kills me anytime she sings in that song.

She's not really by the way

Nice to know.... :bored:

Are you always an insensitive twat or just when you're awake?

How on earth was that insensitive? get a grip woman.

you're an idiot

Erm, OK

Explain how?

Check your thread. I'm not arguing here

If you need explaining why, it really doesn't need explaining at all.