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happybbfan 13-09-2011 09:07 AM

1.43 million for last night 7.8% share

daniel-lewis-1985 13-09-2011 09:16 AM

God this is awful

Omah 13-09-2011 09:49 AM

Are we returning to the dismal days of Big Brother Celebrity Hijack, which drew to a close with little more than half a million viewers ?

:sad:

DigitalSid 13-09-2011 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by happybbfan (Post 4557443)
1.43 million for last night 7.8% share

:bored:

Black Dagger 13-09-2011 10:24 AM

Poor ratings... I just hope they realise they are making a huge mistake and this is their try-out series and they realise what is going wrong... personally the ratings should be much better, this is my favourite cast in a while.

joeysteele 13-09-2011 10:29 AM

I think it's too early to moan too much yet, it was a difficult weekend for TV and lots going on.

However,I have come across a fair few people (who really liked CBB), on about BB yesterday and today,who watched other programmes over the weekend as opposed to watching BB,(not younger viewers though),who are totally put off by Jay's in the main conversations.I haven't found many people impressed with Pamela Anderson either, all wondering why she was even there.

I think the ratings will improve,however they desperately need to make available more footage, it is near impossible to get to know enough as to all the housemates in only a 50 minute highlights slot each night.
They will definately need something like live feed next year and really they should think about getting something up and running in the next 3 to 4 weeks as well to hold fair to good ratings.

No need to panic but a re-think is certainly required because this could be a really great series.

Benjamin 13-09-2011 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985 (Post 4557400)
Why is this not stickied anymore?!?!?!

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...d.php?t=184471

daniel-lewis-1985 13-09-2011 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ukturtle (Post 4557503)

But the ratings thread is allways stickied due to all of us using it every day.

Its annoying have to go searching for it when you want to post.

Benjamin 13-09-2011 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985 (Post 4557516)
But the ratings thread is allways stickied due to all of us using it every day.

Its annoying have to go searching for it when you want to post.

Too many stickies is annoying. And you don't have to search for it. That thread is stickied. Just go there and click the link. ;)

daniel-lewis-1985 13-09-2011 12:39 PM

Theres allways been a ratings thread stickied.

Your probs the only person this annoys.

Jordan. 13-09-2011 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by happybbfan (Post 4557443)
1.43 million for last night 7.8% share

Awful. Worrying to think what it'll be like in a few weeks time.

Definitely think it'll fall under 1M at some point.

joeysteele 13-09-2011 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan. (Post 4557665)
Awful. Worrying to think what it'll be like in a few weeks time.

Definitely think it'll fall under 1M at some point.

I don't know why they just don't use more footage that they already have and instead of repeating the previous nights show the next day around noon,have that extra programme of new footage as well.

At least that would be a start to more footage, and that hour is already set aside to show the repeat of the previous nights programme anyway.It couldn't possibly cost anything really to do that too.

Benjamin 13-09-2011 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985 (Post 4557657)
Theres allways been a ratings thread stickied.

Your probs the only person this annoys.

:pat:

JohnnyBB 13-09-2011 01:31 PM

emergency meetings would have been in full swing today!

daniel-lewis-1985 13-09-2011 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ukturtle (Post 4557749)
:pat:

Dont touch me you pervert!

Visage 13-09-2011 01:39 PM

Do you think if it was shown at 9pm instead of 10pm that more viewers would tune in ?

joeysteele 13-09-2011 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Visage (Post 4557776)
Do you think if it was shown at 9pm instead of 10pm that more viewers would tune in ?

Yes,I think it would help a bit,this sometimes at 9pm and then 10pm then 9.45 pm. it does irritate a bit.

The thing needed now though is definately more footage.
On CBB,we had an idea of the celebrities,didn't need to get to know them too much, these housemates though are total strangers,50 minutes a night for 14 of them on TV is way too little time to.

iRyan 13-09-2011 05:24 PM

The ratings aren't really that much worse than BB10, and this series is airing in the fall and on a less popular channel.

But I think they've made some major mistakes.

1) NO LIVE FEED. Automatically put ALOT of people off the show. When they axed the live feed in BB10, there was a big ratings drop. Now they've done it again and it's had the same outcome. It's their own damn fault now.
2) They shouldn't have started with CBB. Yes, it gave them good ratings, but BB13 had no buzz around it because all the buzz had started with CBB.
3) Time slots like 9:45 and 10:00 pm are not going to attract as many people, especially in the fall when most viewers have to wake up early for school or work the next day and don't want to stay up until 11.

iRyan 13-09-2011 05:32 PM

Interesting bit I read on DigitalSpy:

Quote:

The thing is, C4 have around a 6% audience share and they get £600m a year in advertising revenue. C5 have a 4% share and so if everything were equal, they'd get £400m, except they don’t. They get £200m. That disparity is because C4 are viewed as having the best share of the young market with about 15%. C5 know that if they can increase their audience share of the young market up to the same level as C4's, they'll eventually get the same proportion of revenue.

In other words, with a 15% share of the young market, but no increase in the overall 4% audience share, they stand to gain £200m a year and with 15% of the young market and an increase in the overall audience share to C4's 6% level, they can get £400m. With those sort of numbers, the £40m spent on BB is a sound investment if they can make inroads into C4's dominant position.

And it sounds as if they're doing that. 1.5m a night is good if the proportion of young folk is high. The sad fact is that given a choice between 2.5m a night with a low proportion of young folk because all the long time, older fans are happy and tuning in, and 1.5m with a high proportion of kids, C5 would want the latter. In fact, if it gets 2.5m a night and the kids aren't watching, they'll axe the show very quickly because that'll ruin the very thing they're trying to achieve, which is to present a case to advertisers that C5 is the place for the youth market. It's a bit like E4 having a surprising hit with something like Antiques Roadshow (I presume that has an older profile). Even if it got 5m a night, they'd have to get rid because it'd dilute the E4 brand.

The key figures therefore are how is BB doing in the young profile, which I've not seen recently, how is it doing compared to C4 (it beat them again last night), and how is its overall share doing compared to the average for C5 (8% is twice C5's average). Also, 1.5m is on overnights. It didn't get commented here amidst all the negativity, but it looked as if the final CBB figures were up quite a bit on overnights, often by 0.4m or so. 1.5m overnight is probably a 1.8m actual, along with 0.2m on repeats and, amazingly, 0.5m for the spin-off, all translates into about 17m viewers a week. If 15% of those 17m are young, this is exactly what they want. Obviously they'd like more viewers, provided they're young, but as long as they close the gap on C4's proportion of young folk, BB is fulfilling its aim.

armand.kay 13-09-2011 09:49 PM

Why is this not stickied yer :/

Stu 13-09-2011 09:50 PM

A bit silly not having it as a sticky in fairness. It's not as if the sticky threads in the BB12 thread as it is are particularly suffocating. These kind of threads have been sticky for years.

Omah 13-09-2011 11:27 PM

Any predictions for today ?

Callum 13-09-2011 11:31 PM

This should be sticked, threads like the BB12 elimination game are sticked and this isn't allowed to be? Very silly

billy123 13-09-2011 11:38 PM

Nobody had a problem with the stickies the way they were for the last month it looks like one person got their knickers in a twist over it and annoyed half the board.
Its just silly.

Omah 14-09-2011 09:37 AM

wot nuze ?

daniel-lewis-1985 14-09-2011 09:58 AM

Please refer to UK TURTLES comments about the thread not being stickied. It was stickied then mysteriously bacame unstuck. Im guessing 1 sad little member actually complained about it lol

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Originally Posted by ukturtle (Post 4557523)
Too many stickies is annoying. And you don't have to search for it. That thread is stickied. Just go there and click the link. ;)



:xyxwave:

daniel-lewis-1985 14-09-2011 10:00 AM

Big Brother attracted 1.37m (8%) in the 10pm hour.

Awful :(

Benjamin 14-09-2011 10:00 AM

There were 9/10 stickies up there.

DigitalSid 14-09-2011 10:07 AM

RIP normal BB

Benjamin 14-09-2011 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985 (Post 4560108)
Read through the forum. You are the only one on this thread who thinks its a good idead to just have the ratings thread floating about.

It was more all the other stickies that I was referring to unstick, but all you have to do is ask admin/mod to stick it back. Not a hard thing to do.

*mazedsalv** 14-09-2011 10:16 AM

I don't even know why people are shocked by the ratings.
We had warned Five over and over and over and over again, with emails and phonecalls.
Did they listen? No. Karma's a bitch.

daniel-lewis-1985 14-09-2011 10:19 AM

Thanks for stickying this again :)

Anyway yeah remember before it started we all thought it would only get about 1.4 a night anyway and assumed C5 would be happy with that. I think we just assumed all their other programmes done so **** they would be happy with just a million.

However...looking at Channel 5's ratings there are shows on the schedule that are actually beating BB aka CSI and all prime time show on C5 last night got over 1 million viewers.

BB needed to do something special.

I didnt think CBB8 ratings were great but would kill for them now for BB12.

Such a shame as i think this is going to be the best series in years.

Jake. 14-09-2011 10:23 AM

Real shame but im just gonna try and forget about ratings and enjoy the great series

DigitalSid 14-09-2011 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv** (Post 4560124)
I don't even know why people are shocked by the ratings.
We had warned Five over and over and over and over again, with emails and phonecalls.
Did they listen? No. Karma's a bitch.

This has nothing to do with live feed, it would be if it dropped to this mid-series without the show being bad or the competition being better.

Black Dagger 14-09-2011 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by JH95 (Post 4560139)
Real shame but im just gonna try and forget about ratings and enjoy the great series

This... ratings only bother me a tiny bit... if I was the only person watching then I might be dissapointed, it was never going to be a mainstream hit again, personally I hope C5 learn from their mistakes and do everything they can next year.

joeysteele 14-09-2011 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Black Dagger (Post 4560146)
This... ratings only bother me a tiny bit... if I was the only person watching then I might be dissapointed, it was never going to be a mainstream hit again, personally I hope C5 learn from their mistakes and do everything they can next year.

That's what I think they will do, also with ratings of around an average 2.5 million for CBB and over 1+ million for BB, to make new plans for it next year and see ratings rise then it will be seen as not only listening but also a bigger success for them.

Had it had higher ratings this year and then dropped a lot next year that would have looked disastrous,this way it has still done well enough this year and can really grow more next year.

It's sort of like business,have lower targets in your first year and then when figures really grow in the 2nd year it seems a massive success.

*mazedsalv** 14-09-2011 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 4560159)
That's what I think they will do, also with ratings of around an average 2.5 million for CBB and over 1+ million for BB, to make new plans for it next year and see ratings rise then it will be seen as not only listening but also a bigger success for them.

Had it had higher ratings this year and then dropped a lot next year that would have looked disastrous,this way it has still done well enough this year and can really grow more next year.

It's sort of like business,have lower targets in your first year and then when figures really grow in the 2nd year it seems a massive success.

But I doubt BB will ever be a ratings success anymore. Five have completely shafted the core BB die hard audience, and they will never get them back. No matter what they do, it's too late now. The damage is done.

Omah 14-09-2011 11:44 AM

Blimey, at this rate, it'll be less than 1m on Saturday ..... ;)

daniel-lewis-1985 14-09-2011 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 4560159)
That's what I think they will do, also with ratings of around an average 2.5 million for CBB and over 1+ million for BB, to make new plans for it next year and see ratings rise then it will be seen as not only listening but also a bigger success for them.

Had it had higher ratings this year and then dropped a lot next year that would have looked disastrous,this way it has still done well enough this year and can really grow more next year.

It's sort of like business,have lower targets in your first year and then when figures really grow in the 2nd year it seems a massive success.

Bollox!

If this series carries on under 1.5 million it will look disastrous. PERIOD.

This is the chance for them to make an impact and if people have switched off already now by next year it would be completley forgotten about.

joeysteele 14-09-2011 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv** (Post 4560196)
But I doubt BB will ever be a ratings success anymore. Five have completely shafted the core BB die hard audience, and they will never get them back. No matter what they do, it's too late now. The damage is done.

That's mostly right but they have lots of options open to them for next year that can put things right.

CBB for instance is planned again to be on first.CBB got good ratings this year.The figures watching, 5 million at the launch and 3 million for the final.
The idea of BB is still a good one and that proved people will watch it.
The launch of BB itself,only had half a milion less watching.

Now, for whatever reasons, ratings are down but to still higher than what even a lot on here thought they would be, I recall seeing figures of 1 million and even under a million being said.

I don't think it's too late at all. What Channel 5 need to do is make sure BB is massively promoted next year, bring back some live feed or certainly lots more footage of BB and use the CBB series to really capitalise on the changes that will have to be made.

I thnk the 1 to 1.5 million plus there is now watching it still, is near to the hard core audience,I don't think the hard core audience is anything like 1.25 million.

Maybe as many have said on here, people will not be able to relate or attach themselves to these 'really good' overall housemates in this year, because they hardly see them. That was always going to be the problem without more footage. We don't know these people in the house, people don't like that, they want to know and see all they can of people to form opinions of and 'bond' a bit to them. Impossible with only 50 minutes a night covering 14 housemates.

That I believe is why people have gone off this series, that does not mean, (hopefully), they won't watch another though with more footage and better planning.


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