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Locke. 14-10-2011 02:28 PM

The only people more undeserving of winning than Alex are Aden and Tom.

Ramsay 14-10-2011 02:37 PM

She is very overated
Reminds me of Sophie Reade who faked her way to winning

MeMyselfAndI 14-10-2011 02:45 PM

Nope, she is boring.

MeMyselfAndI 14-10-2011 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Karl (Post 4650860)
She is very overated
Reminds me of Sophie Reade who faked her way to winning

Sophie Reade didn't fake her way into winning. It's not her fault she was the most popular Housemate of BB10 by a landslide :conf:

Patricia4 14-10-2011 02:50 PM

No I dont want her to win I dont dislike her but not a winner for me.

vesavius 14-10-2011 02:56 PM

Thankfully this, and other, forums with all their polls and whatnot, do not reflect how the majority of voters feel.

The majority obviously see in her a fun and charming counterbalance to all the darkness in there that they enjoy a lot and therefore she is popular.

Does this 'justify' her? Ofc it does, to those that value such things.

To those that value arguing, aggression, manipulation, fake showmances, and being generally vile, ofc it won't though.


But, again thankfully, the majority of voters seem to want their winners to be good people and that makes her popular, which in a popularity contest is all you need to 'justify' yourself to anyone.

Samuel. 14-10-2011 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by vesavius (Post 4650900)
Thankfully this, and other, forums with all their polls and whatnot, do not reflect how the majority of voters feel.

The majority obviously see in her a fun and charming counterbalance to all the darkness in there that they enjoy a lot and therefore she is popular.

Does this 'justify' her? Ofc it does, to those that value such things.

To those that value arguing, aggression, manipulation, fake showmances, and being generally vile, ofc it won't though.


But, again thankfully, the majority of voters seem to want their winners to be good people and that makes her popular, which in a popularity contest is all you need to 'justify' yourself to anyone.

Two extremes :bored:

vesavius 14-10-2011 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Samuel. (Post 4650921)
Two extremes :bored:


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LaLaLand 14-10-2011 03:13 PM

Yes, she's a great housemate and I'm glad they're finally giving her more airtime, she's a gem!

Vicky. 14-10-2011 03:24 PM

Not really IMO. Seems a nice enough girl, but shes only featured when messing around with Tom or when they give her a task.

I think part of the reason shes odds on though is not to do with her, but to do with how marmite the other faves are. If Aaron goes before Jay a lot of Aaron fans would vote Alex just to stop Jay winning, and vice versa. However I do think she would probably be favourite anyway, just not at the odds she is.

She might start getting featured more once this wolfpack thing dies down. And then I will probably change how I think, but at this moment, she probably has about 20 mins worth of footage since they entered, and 10 mins of that is the yes task.

vesavius 14-10-2011 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 4650981)
...but at this moment, she probably has about 20 mins worth of footage since they entered, and 10 mins of that is the yes task.

We have no way of knowing that.

And again, what type of footage we put value on is pretty subjective.

CaudleHalbard 14-10-2011 03:30 PM

Alex won't win. The bookies usually get BB winners wrong. Jedward were odds-on faves for CBB8.

Videostar 14-10-2011 03:34 PM

Not really, playing dumb and not taking sides should not make you popular, but sadly on these shows it does, she will win.

But at least shes a step up from the awful Josie.

Samuel. 14-10-2011 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by vesavius (Post 4650927)
Expand :bored:

I don't value any of those things you mentioned when talking about a deserving winner, yet still don't think Alex deserves to win. You were implying a lot about the people who don't believe Alex has justified being odds on favourite.

CaudleHalbard 14-10-2011 03:40 PM

A thought has occurred to me: I wonder if the "typical" BB voter identifies quite strongly with Alex.

I.e. a bit of a minger with a low supply of brain cells? :D

vesavius 14-10-2011 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Samuel. (Post 4651023)
I don't value any of those things you mentioned when talking about a deserving winner, yet still don't think Alex deserves to win. You were implying a lot about the people who don't believe Alex has justified being odds on favourite.

The what is it you DO value in a winner?

What do they have to do to justify their winning, to you?

Samuel. 14-10-2011 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by vesavius (Post 4651053)
The what is it you DO value in a winner?

What do they have to do to justify their winning, to you?

Aaron is the perfect example of someone I believe is a deserving winner. Someone I really like as a person, who also contributes a lot to the series, who brings entertainment directly and indirectly on a regular basis.

I'm not going to list character traits I think are valuable as that doesn't really matter, it's how they are overall and what they bring to the show.

Vicky. 14-10-2011 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by vesavius (Post 4650997)
We have no way of knowing that.

And again, what type of footage we put value on is pretty subjective.

Was I not clear enough? I expected people to know that I obviously meant on the HL shows, that we have been shown...how on earth would I know how much footage all together she has had?!

icecakes 14-10-2011 04:54 PM

I like her better than Josie , but without Tom to bounce off, she'd go unnoticed in the house.

vesavius 14-10-2011 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 4651135)
Was I not clear enough? I expected people to know that I obviously meant on the HL shows, that we have been shown...how on earth would I know how much footage all together she has had?!

Vicky, we are just talking, no need for the 'was I not clear enough' type snarkyness.

I wasn't attacking you in any way, and I don't really udnerstand the tone of your response, but nm.

vesavius 14-10-2011 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Samuel. (Post 4651104)
Aaron is the perfect example of someone I believe is a deserving winner. Someone I really like as a person, who also contributes a lot to the series, who brings entertainment directly and indirectly on a regular basis.

I'm not going to list character traits I think are valuable as that doesn't really matter, it's how they are overall and what they bring to the show.

So you look for the manipulative passive aggressive user with a game plan type for your entertainment then?

ok, thats fair anough, each to their own. I can quite enjoy that style of HM as well tbh and glad there is always at least one of them in there.

I wouldnt want someone like that to win though.

icecakes 14-10-2011 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Samuel. (Post 4651104)
Aaron is the perfect example of someone I believe is a deserving winner. Someone I really like as a person, who also contributes a lot to the series, who brings entertainment directly and indirectly on a regular basis.

I'm not going to list character traits I think are valuable as that doesn't really matter, it's how they are overall and what they bring to the show.

Exactly :worship::flowers:

Vicky. 14-10-2011 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by vesavius (Post 4651335)
Vicky, we are just talking, no need for the 'was I not clear enough' type snarkyness.

I wasn't attacking you in any way, and I don't really udnerstand the tone of your response, but nm.

Sorry, I just really cant see how anyone could have possibly took my post to mean anything different to what I meant it to mean :S

Its quite obvious that I base what I say on what we HAVE seen(be that on the c5 site, the HLs, or BBOTS), not what footage there might be that we havent seen :)

AlexsMum 14-10-2011 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Novo (Post 4650464)
Well i just think with the characters in the house this year Alex shouldn't even be a contender to win it.. even past housemates that have been evicted left a bigger mark that Alex has so far.. far enough you think she is genuine and nice so is my Nan but i wouldn't watch her in a house for 9 weeks there are housemates in there who have brought to much to this big brother and Alex is not one of them

I think you have made your opinion quite clear in numerous posts you don't like Alex...it's not about what YOU don't like, this show is about what the public like...and the public do like Alex...everyone is entitled to their opinion but when it gets shoved down your throat it's like yesterday's news!!! Please give it a rest...You don't see me slating other housemates so have a little compassion at least!!

Novo 14-10-2011 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexsMum (Post 4651418)
I think you have made your opinion quite clear in numerous posts you don't like Alex...it's not about what YOU don't like, this show is about what the public like...and the public do like Alex...everyone is entitled to their opinion but when it gets shoved down your throat it's like yesterday's news!!! Please give it a rest...You don't see me slating other housemates so have a little compassion at least!!

Oh here we go the Mother of the beast running her mouth i wondered how long it would take.. the public will soon realise your daughter is nothing more then a beastly bore and she will packing her suitcase and running back to you and somewhere in Lordsville a young man by the name of Aaron is spending his big brother winnings on a nice car

AlexsMum 14-10-2011 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Novo (Post 4651435)
Oh here we go the Mother of the beast running her mouth i wondered how long it would take.. the public will soon realise your daughter is nothing more then a beastly bore and she will packing her suitcase and running back to you and somewhere in Lordsville a young man by the name of Aaron is spending his big brother winnings on a nice car

I think you need to grow up!! That's all I have to say on the matter!!

Novo 14-10-2011 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexsMum (Post 4651442)
I think you need to grow up!! That's all I have to say on the matter!!

Your daughter needs to grow up and stop sitting on the fence and that is all i have to say on the matter!!

Locke. 14-10-2011 06:02 PM

Alex's mum if you want to get one over on Novo then phone this number

090 16 16 17 04

That is all I have to say on the matter!!

Vicky. 14-10-2011 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexsMum (Post 4651418)
I think you have made your opinion quite clear in numerous posts you don't like Alex...it's not about what YOU don't like, this show is about what the public like...and the public do like Alex...everyone is entitled to their opinion but when it gets shoved down your throat it's like yesterday's news!!! Please give it a rest...You don't see me slating other housemates so have a little compassion at least!!

With all due respect here...if you sign up to a big brother forum, you have to expect that some people will have negative opinions on your daughter, same as people will have negative opinions on any housemate. And I really dont think its your place to tell someone to 'give it a rest' just because they voice their opinions on multiple threads.

The forum would be a really boring place if we all just were happy and positive about the housemates we liked and ignored everything else.

vesavius 14-10-2011 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 4651489)
With all due respect here...if you sign up to a big brother forum, you have to expect that some people will have negative opinions on your daughter, same as people will have negative opinions on any housemate. And I really dont think its your place to tell someone to 'give it a rest' just because they voice their opinions on multiple threads.

The forum would be a really boring place if we all just were happy and positive about the housemates we liked and ignored everything else.

Other forum users tell others to 'give it a rest' using that or other words ad nauseum Vicky.

I agree that no one should get special priviledge, but also no one should get special restrictions. It is her 'place' as much as it is anyone else's (who don't get pulled up by mods for it).

With all due respect.

Foebane100 14-10-2011 11:00 PM

You have to wonder if Alex is still in there, she never does anything in there.

They must give her screen time to Jay.

saigon 14-10-2011 11:00 PM

I don't think any of them deserve it. Most undeserving lot of HMs ever IMO. Not saying the shows rubbish. Just the HMs are pretty undeserving.

vesavius 14-10-2011 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexsMum (Post 4651442)
I think you need to grow up!! That's all I have to say on the matter!!

Don't get into it, ignore the trolls. Get your victory when she walks out of there winner :)

Lex 14-10-2011 11:05 PM

Of course she should be favourite!!!...She's a lovely lass!!

StraightEdge695 14-10-2011 11:10 PM

no shes my least favourite girl, she hasnt done anything except be friends with tom who i also dislike

rsefitpro2011 15-10-2011 07:21 AM

Alex is the typical BB winner, lets face it if you get on witb everyone, have a laugh and don't cause offence you are going to win!

Forget its an entertainment show, the public always vote for those that don't annoy them.

Wether or not they have done alot or not doesnt seem to matter, its the mad world of reality tv.

Look at your past Big Brother winners, Brian Dowling for example, when he won he actualyl deserved to!, He was hilarious and was without question a fantastic housemate!. But other than Brian,you have to question if any of the other winners have deserved it!. Their is no way Rachel Rice should have won, theirs no way Ulrika Johnson should have won!,but they did!

Its up to you lot to vote correctly!

Vicky. 15-10-2011 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by vesavius (Post 4653216)
Other forum users tell others to 'give it a rest' using that or other words ad nauseum Vicky.

I agree that no one should get special priviledge, but also no one should get special restrictions. It is her 'place' as much as it is anyone else's (who don't get pulled up by mods for it).

With all due respect.

True. However its the 'have a little compassion at least' part that makes it a bit different from random users saying give it a rest isnt it ;)

muchadoaboutnothing 15-10-2011 12:31 PM

Alex is a decent sort of girl but apart from the tan task she really hasn't contributed and, imo, doesn't deserve to win. But she will more than likely win as the viewers tend to vote for silly HMs. Brian Belo for example.

Bojangles 15-10-2011 03:15 PM

Alex is playing a blinder of a game,she steers clear of any confrontation, is never nominated and it seems to go over the others heads,other than Tom's.That's why he sticking to Alex like glue.
Jay will not have noticed but Aaron will in one of his pensive moods he'll realize and work his devious way to get her nominated because he's not going to be able to get rid of her threat of winning BB if he doesn't.

The only way he can do this is by getting Jay on his side which will bring Anton into the frame and Harry will back Aaron.So if they all vote Tom and Alex they will be lowering the opposition.

joeysteele 15-10-2011 04:19 PM

I would say no, I do like her a lot and I would put her in my top 3 but she hasn't done a great deal.

She is funny with her stories and her best moments,other than sometimes in tasks, are with Harry and Aaron.
The problem is we haven't a clue as to her real popularity with the voting public,the bookies near always get the winner wrong,even if they are odds on favourites.

There has been no real test as to her with the viewers yet, so although she is odds on favourite,I would guess she is likely at best in 2nd or 3rd place.

I wouldn't though want to see an Alex and Aaron eviction this week though,I would expect Aaron still to ride through and win that but would rather that scenario of nominations didn't happen.
I don't really expect her to be up for eviction though, we will need to see what happens when it gets to the last 4 or 5 to see how strong her popularity is then.


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