Originally Posted by Bojangles (Post 4702368)

I don't see it as betrayal at all.Harry spoke the truth,he wasn't going to lie on tv when asked what he thought.Admittedly he could have held back on some of his comments but that's Harry, you get what you see.

Originally Posted by MarcusLloydAK (Post 4702551)

tbh, the only housemates that have stayed the same (even from their VT's) is clearly Louise and Jay! I mean the housemates that are currently there. Aaron is a gameplayer and a liar, and you can't deny that. His dancing and singing is so fake, as he knows he'll get more votes! Harry and Anton sussed him out. Aaron would have not been seen dead doing that in the first few weeks, and I'll never forget when he said Rebeckah was one of his favourite HM's to her face, and then walked into the bathroom and said he hated her. But don't get me wrong, I do like Aaron but i just know he's fake. :P

Originally Posted by fruit_cake (Post 4702313)

with respect, two of you don't speak for his 10's of thousands of fans. I'm not ashamed of having an emotional connection to the housemates, people are people whether they are on a television screen or not in my view.

Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 4702349)

With respect, YOU don't speak for every Harry fan either - or any other hms/ex hms fans.

10's of thousands of fans?!!! :joker: Don't you think you're really stretching it there !! :laugh3:

Originally Posted by fruit_cake (Post 4702377)

I'm not even a Harry fan what are you talking about? I haven't personally counted them but Aaron probably does have 10's of thousands of fans.

Originally Posted by fruit_cake (Post 4702579)

you lost me there I'm afraid.

Originally Posted by Bojangles (Post 4702368)

I don't see it as betrayal at all.Harry spoke the truth,he wasn't going to lie on tv when asked what he thought.Admittedly he could have held back on some of his comments but that's Harry, you get what you see.

Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 4702613)

lets just say who ever wins,its not going to change our lifes in any way,and all too soon there will be more housemates for us to have opinions on,

Originally Posted by MarcusLloydAK (Post 4702565)

I thought she was! :P hmm, well on the one where she's in the black room, i can't remember the official one before she went in.

Originally Posted by fruit_cake (Post 4702153)

well maybe he had those opinions all along and it's only now that we realised about them?

His best friend in there was definitely Anton when we all thought it was Aaron..then it was Alex. I thought all along that Aaron had dumped Harry in the top trumps game. He lost trust in him after that imo.

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 4702680)

I have no interest in what the H.M's say when they come out of the house..they had their chance when they were in there..I'm sure Harry's just trying to earn a few pennies to buy his golden kettle..

Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 4702708)

A lot of truth in this one Ammi. He's out of the running to be winner, and like every other ex-hmate now, he's doing what he can to keep himself connected to the show - by whatever means.

He's been a game player all along himself so he cannot fault or criticise anyone else for doing it..... he's a bit miffed that he was outsmarted - that's all it is.

Look what all this type of thing did for Rebeckah - her turning hot and cold with Aden - look how that completely backfired on her. Harry needs to be careful otherwise, game playing or not: he's going to lose a lot of respect if he over eggs the pudding.

Give Anton his dues: even HE came round to Aaron and said all credit to him (Aaron).

But in essence: Harry's out of the game, there's is still lots to play for and he's now excluded from that. You can understand why the chap feels miffed, everso slightly. :D

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 4702713)

Yes Pyr, I can..but sour grapes can be so unattractive when they're smeared all over your mush.....

Originally Posted by karezza (Post 4702715)

Harry is well on the way to becoming BB12's most hated housemate.

Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 4702601)

Standard reply from you I see when you've made a 'wee hash' of it.

Harry's entitled to say /do what he likes.

It will only serve to push Aaron fans into overdrive to get Aaron to at least the top three.

That should push Harry's nose out of joint, just a little bit more!

Tally ho! :D

Originally Posted by kazanne (Post 4702729)

Is this the vid you wanted Pyramid?

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 4702182)

His parting words to Aaron were, love you man :nono:

Originally Posted by fruit_cake (Post 4702272)

what an awful thing to say. I hope that's not the general opinion of the Aaron fan's. Harry was playing the game just like anyone else, Alex clearly loved him.

Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 4703019)

She did but I bet your bottom dollar he wont invite her out with his mates when she is out!!!:joker:

Originally Posted by vesavius (Post 4702361)

Harry sees the truth of Aaron and speaks without malice or dislike.

It's a shame though that hearing the truth just makes some retreat further into denial to support entrenched stances.

Originally Posted by Bojangles (Post 4702368)

I don't see it as betrayal at all.Harry spoke the truth,he wasn't going to lie on tv when asked what he thought.Admittedly he could have held back on some of his comments but that's Harry, you get what you see.

Originally Posted by Bojangles (Post 4702368)

I don't see it as betrayal at all.Harry spoke the truth,he wasn't going to lie on tv when asked what he thought.Admittedly he could have held back on some of his comments but that's Harry, you get what you see.

Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 4703040)

I suppose it depends which of 'Harrys' truths you choose to believe cos he seems full of contradictions...you are believing what you WANT to believe. His behaviour and comments have been contradictory thats why many see him as a backstabber.

Originally Posted by Ellen (Post 4703084)

Harry was hardly likely to tell Faye that he thought Aaron was playing her was he?
She would have been straight over to Aaron telling him what Harry said which would have caused problems for Aaron & Harry so i can see why Harry said what he said.

Originally Posted by Bill Carson (Post 4703105)

It seems harry had aarons back in the house and played along with the fact that he knew he was using faye,but is outside now and can just be himself and tell the truth,nothing wrong with that,almost all the other H/M's have had the same opinion of aaron.

It was probably not something that he could respect that's all,and maybe he just wants to disassociate himself from it now he is on the outside.

Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 4703040)

I suppose it depends which of 'Harrys' truths you choose to believe cos he seems full of contradictions...you are believing what you WANT to believe. His behaviour and comments have been contradictory thats why many see him as a backstabber.

Originally Posted by vesavius (Post 4703119)

He is full of contradictions because... HE PLAYED THE GAME.

That means he said different things as required to different people. I thought we were all meant to love game players?? Or just game players called Aaron? :joker:

If your gonna hate on Harry for playing the game,you better be ready to condemn Aaron for exactly the same.

Because not to would be a contradiction.

Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 4703160)

I dont hate Harry....I was disappointed cos I thought he had more to him.

Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 4703160)

but I dont like the way he has 'turned' on Aaron. You know I like Aaron and he has played the game well but when he says he likes people I believe he means it....but I TRULY believe it wont happen cos I think he is a really decent guy.

Originally Posted by vesavius (Post 4703189)

Rustic, he is exactly what he was in that house, he jut has said some negative stuff about Aaron. That's the only difference between then and now.

If he pretended to like Aaron more in that house, well... they all have done the same, including Aaron. To dislike Harry for it is a double standard.

Aaron has obviously faked relationships, massively imo, and to condemn others for doing the same dosen't seem right to me.



He hasn't 'turned' on Aaron...

He is just giving his opinions of the game freely now he has left it.

For him that obviously includes Aaron's fakeness and tactics at the expense of others. He can observe that part of Aaron's game and still like the guy... it is the same as one footballer talking about the game of another.

The highligted part of your quote is to underline the trick that Aaron is playing and getting away with.

Originally Posted by angus58 (Post 4703382)

Harry told Faye: "I haven't thought in any way that he's been leading you on." So was Harry lying to Faye for kicks or now for a paid interview? Clips below:

* Harry to Aaron: "I don't want you to have been portrayed in a way that isn't true" regarding what was said by the families when nominating Aaron.
-- 28:12 mark: http://www.channel5.com/shows/big-br.../episode-53-32

* Harry to Faye: "I know how much you like Aaron..." "I think he feels like he's in an awkward situation as well, because he said he really, really likes you outside, but everyone is going to slag him off and say he's been leading you on or whatever. But I haven't thought in any way that he's been leading you on. But I think you've got to trust your own instinct. ...I would just not listen to your mom and sister. At the end of the day, you've got 18 days left...I wouldn't read too much into the whole -- I know what they said you've got to take on board, but at the same time, just have fun doing whatever you want to do. If you want to hang out with Aaron and if you want to get off with Aaron, then do whatever you want to." Faye says she doesn't know if she'll be able to do that, because it'll be too weird. Harry responds, "Only if you let it be weird. I feel sorry for him, though, in the fact of five nominations of all people saying 'I don't like how you're treating Faye.' It's kind of, like, ouch."
-- 31:14 mark: http://www.channel5.com/shows/big-br.../episode-53-32

* Harry to Faye in his goodbye message: "Don't worry about what people think on the outside world until you get on the outside world. Just have fun for now."
-- 18:48 mark: http://www.channel5.com/shows/big-br.../episode-57-30

* Harry to Aaron: "I love you, mate. See you soon. Look after yourself. Look out for Faye. I'm glad you two got another week." And then Harry to Faye: "Faye, I love you. Look after yourself. Look after Aaron."
-- 3:53 mark: http://www.channel5.com/shows/big-br.../episode-57-30



:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Originally Posted by kazanne (Post 4702212)

But didn't Anton say Harry had stabbed HIM in the back also,I have no problems with Harry saying Aaron is playing a game,but imo,no need to bring Faye into it as imo I think Aaron likes her a lot and harry said himself that he thought they were genuine,so nah,too many inconsistances for me to take notice of.