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G1dds 01-11-2011 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by MachoPoodle (Post 4708424)
One minute it's all about how incredibly clever Aaron is, and suddenly when it suits people that like him, he can't even count to 2? Please...


No, I think the point is that most went wrong starting from Faye, as the 2 she nominated weren't the 2 that were originally sat beside her. Im sure its pretty hard to keep up with how many were nominated so quickly, when the plan had gone slightly off track

Aaron decided to then not nominate Alex, but if Louise had been allowed to nominate Tom, like she apparently tried to, 5 housemates would have been up

I think the mistake he actually made was thinking that he could exclude Alex from the votes and believing BB wouldn't manipulate the vote to suit (ie, not allowing Louise to nom Thomas)

coralqueen 01-11-2011 07:02 AM
ffs, Aaron should be able to vote for anyone he wants to...louise messed it up most by not saying tom, but as usual Aaron gets the blame....Aaron or alex to win...

Kazanne 01-11-2011 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 4708137)
Was it Tom who messed it up, I think he was meant to vote for Alex but went for Louise?
Some one said on another forum that it was Tom who messed up.

Kazanne 01-11-2011 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 4708095)
Here we go...I do not think that Aarons 'sabotage' was deliberate. At all.

Aaron didnt even make the first mistake. They all agreed to nom the two people to the side of them, started this, then BB made them switch. While switching, they decided to keep the SAME noms as they would have been doing if they hadnt switched. Most did this. But someone went wrong somewhere. As by the time it was Aarons turn to vote, Faye already had 2 noms, and lousie already had 2 noms...and Faye/Louise were meant to be Aarons votes(going on the first seating order, which is what they agreed). So someone had voted for Faye AND Louise when they werent supposed to.

I think Aaron figured out that Faye already had 2 (he would obviously be paying more attention to that than louise) but messed up on his counting. And still put Louise up, thinking she only had 1. And threw his other vote to Tom as he realized Tom was missing a vote. You could clearly see he was very confused during his nominations...he knew it had gone wrong somewhere

Then tried to justify his actions by saying he wanted to save Alex(and the crap about the HMS families etc.) instead of just admitting that he made a mistake. And pretty much dug himself into a massive hole, and then kept up the facade. He does tend to be quite stubborn and always wants to make out hes right or did things for a reason, rather than just admitting that hes human and makes mistakes sometimes :S

I will probably be blasted by some of the Aaron fans for the second part, as it kinda goes against the whole ' he did it to be nice to Alex' or 'to be true to himself' reasoning, but I honestly think this is what happened.
I actually thought he had got confused,he looked very muddled after the switch around and it seemed to me like a genuine mistake,but how DARE we post that,LOL,I do think Aaron (as most men) is stubborn and would not like it percieved that he had made a mistake,but whichever it was,it was not only him who messed up,Louise has already admitted she was going to switch her votes but 'pretented' she got confused and Tom also messed up so whoever Aaron picked would not have made too much difference as Faye and Louise already got more,I also think Aaron got annoyed at being pushed into voting who others wanted him to,but the outcome is good I think,we get rid of some deadwood i reckon this week,I can save my pennies and Aaron is in the final,:hugesmile:

exoticrosebud 01-11-2011 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 4708128)
Oh he would (in my opinion) if it stopped him from having to admit he was wrong about something ;)
cant believe he would lie in a game show to win loads of money.! oh dear...that would never do.....
Id lie to hell and back if it got me to the final and a chance......If you enter a game..you should have a game plan....and stick to it.....if people go in there and expect to find true love and romance to last for ever thats their bad luck if it doesnt work out.....that is not the object of the game....if it works great. if it doesnt, tough! I cant understand how the creepy horrid Tom is still there..he has done naff all except moan and droan....thnk i will be glad when its over.!

psychtracker 01-11-2011 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by G1dds (Post 4708425)
No, I think the point is that most went wrong starting from Faye, as the 2 she nominated weren't the 2 that were originally sat beside her.
Thomas)
No, it went wrong right from the first one to nom, which was TOM. He should have nommed Alex & Jay, but strangely had a brain meltdown and picked Jay & Louise...which threw the whole plan out of balance, then they all voted quite randomly.

fruit_cake 01-11-2011 09:06 AM
this is a lose lose situation for Aaron fans, either way he looks bad imo

psychtracker 01-11-2011 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by kazanne (Post 4708464)
I do think Aaron (as most men) is stubborn and would not like it percieved that he had made a mistake,but whichever it was,it was not only him who messed up,
Hmm...i'm a bit dubious of this theory that Aaron was brain muddled, then too stubborn or proud to admit his mistake. Seems way more plausible that he simply wanted to put Louise up, and then see what move she would make from there. He probably underestimated the level of fallout, and got a bit flustered from there on, thus changing his story.

When BB disallowed Louise to put Tom up - a 5 way split, it also put more heat on Aaron's decision to give Louise a 3rd vote.

exoticrosebud 01-11-2011 09:28 AM
either way.....one of them would have had to go.....so does it matter........one of the so called couples would have gone...and i was quite scared by the way that Tom kept redoing his skelleton makeup !!!

fingers 01-11-2011 11:08 AM
BB has interfered and manipulated what the viewers see right from the start, casual viewers i.e. those who matter/(VOTE ) are given a distorted view of what goes on so that Endemol gets the results that it intended (according to the producers' scripts.

Those whe frequent forums or go on line don't figure in Endemol's calculations (they don't matter!)

Vicky. 01-11-2011 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by MachoPoodle (Post 4708424)
One minute it's all about how incredibly clever Aaron is, and suddenly when it suits people that like him, he can't even count to 2? Please...
I never said he couldnt count to 2 :bored:

Its quite reasonable to say he could have made a mistake, given that the rest all ballsed it up too anyway. What I dont like is the coverup story he concocted to save face.

psychtracker 01-11-2011 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by fingers (Post 4708800)
BB has interfered and manipulated what the viewers see right from the start, casual viewers i.e. those who matter/(VOTE ) are given a distorted view of what goes on so that Endemol gets the results that it intended (according to the producers' scripts.

Those whe frequent forums or go on line don't figure in Endemol's calculations (they don't matter!)
Of course! Endemol don't care what a bunch of BB forum wackballs think of their crazy editing and botched manipulation. All they're interested is attempting to churn out a popular and entertaining show for the masses.

arista 01-11-2011 12:06 PM
"I will probably be blasted by some of the Aaron fans for the second part,"


Good lets have it all Out.


Life In The Fast Lane.

Tourmaline 01-11-2011 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by psychtracker (Post 4708559)
No, it went wrong right from the first one to nom, which was TOM. He should have nommed Alex & Jay, but strangely had a brain meltdown and picked Jay & Louise...which threw the whole plan out of balance, then they all voted quite randomly.
Hmm I wonder if Tom was actually voting for who he wanted to nominate had it been in the DR. As soon as they were made to switch places because BB told them all that their noms had to be their own and not influenced in any way it seems to me that everyone voted for who they wanted to vote for in the first place. So the outcome would have been the same if it had been done in the DR IMHO

psychtracker 01-11-2011 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 4708970)
Hmm I wonder if Tom was actually voting for who he wanted to nominate had it been in the DR. As soon as they were made to switch places because BB told them all that their noms had to be their own and not influenced in any way it seems to me that everyone voted for who they wanted to vote for in the first place. So the outcome would have been the same if it had been done in the DR IMHO
Yeah, i don't know...maybe he did do that. But, it's all a confusing mess, coz there seemed to be an undercurrent that they were all gonna keep everyone at 2 votes until Aaron, whether intentionally or not, disrupted proceedings and threw a 3rd vote to Louise.

Kazanne 01-11-2011 01:01 PM
Tom(what we all missed)

He told everyone when they reshuffled when nominating in the second round to remember who they had nominated first so all would be up.

1st nommed to his left....Jay and Alex

He was the first to nominate in the second round and he changed it to Jay and louise.

Considering he was 1st to go...why didn't he stick to his original as he'd told everyone else?

I think he realised he might not be safe so went for it.

Adamw92 01-11-2011 01:03 PM
So Big Brother told Louise to change her nomination from Tom? so instead of nominating Alex (which would still result in five being up for eviction) she chose Faye

Tourmaline 01-11-2011 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by psychtracker (Post 4708996)
Yeah, i don't know...maybe he did do that. But, it's all a confusing mess, coz there seemed to be an undercurrent that they were all gonna keep everyone at 2 votes until Aaron, whether intentionally or not, disrupted proceedings and threw a 3rd vote to Louise.
Hmm I really do believe that BB didn't want them all up this week because that's what they will inevitably have planned for the final week but because of the extremely bad edit we are just completely confuddled by it.

Vicky. 01-11-2011 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by kazanne (Post 4709003)
Tom(what we all missed)

He told everyone when they reshuffled when nominating in the second round to remember who they had nominated first so all would be up.

1st nommed to his left....Jay and Alex

He was the first to nominate in the second round and he changed it to Jay and louise.

Considering he was 1st to go...why didn't he stick to his original as he'd told everyone else?

I think he realised he might not be safe so went for it.
Yup...Tom was the first to make a 'mistake'...straight after telling the others to stick to who they would have originally voted for if they hadnt changed seats.

I honestly think that the rest all just nominated for real the second time round, and found it convenient to blame only aaron, as his nominations just happened to knock one person onto 3 votes...had they all stuck to the plan...Lou would never have had 3 votes anyway

psychtracker 01-11-2011 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 4709025)
Hmm I really do believe that BB didn't want them all up this week because that's what they will inevitably have planned for the final week but because of the extremely bad edit we are just completely confuddled by it.
Yep, totally agree.

fingers 01-11-2011 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 4709025)
Hmm I really do believe that BB didn't want them all up this week because that's what they will inevitably have planned for the final week but because of the extremely bad edit we are just completely confuddled by it.
By sticking rigidly to their script they got the result they wanted and so they can continue with Plan "A" - all up next week, God forbid that housemates should be allowed to deviate from the script! :dance:

psychtracker 01-11-2011 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 4709046)
I honestly think that the rest all just nominated for real the second time round, and found it convenient to blame only aaron, as his nominations just happened to knock one person onto 3 votes...had they all stuck to the plan...Lou would never have had 3 votes anyway
The weird thing was, when Aaron was confronted...why he didn't just say - everyone else altered their votes from the original plan as well. A perfect defense.

The only thing i can think, is that there was more to it that wasn't shown. And there were lots of mutterings by the HMs during nominating, and everyone was being careful to contrive to give each other a max 2 votes, regardless of the original plan.


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