Yeah I think you're right, it was after she'd gone on about how he was the kind of guy who thought he had everything when really he had nothing, and he replied "I've got a Nintendo Wii" :laugh:

Of course he has a gameplan, but he's lousy at it. But when he topped the votes every time he was up for eviction, he realized that he should carry on with what he was doing as people must like it. So more moods, more devious behaviour - and many obviously do like it, though why on earth why I have no idea.
His actions are so contrived it is embarrassing, and his awareness of where the camera is (especially when he is snogging Faye) is nauseating.
Previously the fans insisted he had NO game plan. Then when Anton and Harry insisted that he had, many fans turned completely and hailed him as the master game planner. Now it has completely turned around again. I'm dizzy at the speed of which they change their minds to suit.
The truth is that many Aaron fans are stubborn and won't admit they were wrong - so he may well win. There will be plenty of 'I want to be proved right' votes. That's not what BB is about, and the whole spirit of it will be lost. God knows where BB will go from here in the years to come.

There are reasons many people can't stand him, and it has nothing to do with an Aaron hate conspiracy. There is hardly ever a guest on BOTS or OKTV that doesn't see through him - they have their own independent opinion but because it doesn't match those of Aaron fans they are part of some master conspiracy. Such nonsense.

It was in the garden, she was drunk, rambling and trying to get a rise out of him in a 'jokey' way cause he spurned her frankly disgusting advances on day 1 when she was all over him like a cheap suit.

He said it just to get rid of her basically and shut her up.

Yeah I know, I thought it was a good comeback :D

No. You're confusing two things that happened about five days apart.

The "have you ever weed on someone" was the first night, and aired on the Day One highlights ep.

"God, I hate her" was around Day Six? It was the first eviction episode. Remember, the clip was followed by Brian making fun of it, so it was a live show night.

"God, I hate her" followed a lengthy drunken discussion in the backyard. That was when Rebeckah was going on about how men thought possessions made their penises larger. Aaron said he had a Nintendo Wii and looked down at his groin. Rebeckah was not amused and told him how this made him a horrible person.

He chased after her to make amends, telling her she was becoming one of his favorite people. She responded by insulting him once more and yelling at him to sort himself out.

That's when he made the "God, I hate her" comment.

(I know, I know, this is way too much useless information.)

So he has a gameplan but its rubbish and everyone apart from everyone on ths forum and the 100s of 1000s who vote and keep him in totally agree with you??

Can I have some of what your smoking? Also selective memory much? His battle with the wolfpack (which he won with a cracking smile on his face) was legendary, his early humourous times with Tom (before he went bunnyboiler) and Harry were also great. In fact the only miserable sulky times he has had have totally reflected what most normal people thought.

He copped the ump with Jay offensive jokes and behaviour - check I would to. He copped the ump when they pathetically tried to be 'entertaining' by throwing food around - check I would to etc etc

What you cant stomach is that someone who you dont like is so liked. They all have gameplans of one form or another. They all feed off the public adoration, thats what BB is about. So what exactly is your point, how is he any different to anyone else.

Nothing he does is contrived, the reason he looks for the cameras is to hide as he knows Faye is a bit weird and awkward about it. Jay on the other hand virtually eye ***ks the camera lens, as does Louise with her feeble flirty glances right down the camera and poor attempts to hide her laughter in serious situations.

PS: Oh really dont start using that pit of crap that is BOTS as a valid reason to bash him. Its a scripted show, E Willis is on message, the 'fans' are mostly dullards who have nothing better to do each night than turn up for that crap and the panels are usually fairly split about him.

Indeed Liam (from BB? cant remember) who won that cash and seemed a really nice lad, said he couldnt understand the hatred and vitriol toward Aaron and all he thought he was guilty of was being a bit moody.

I think we got there in the end..:D

The point regardless for me is if he says one thing to her face and another behind her back, it's about keeping her sweet so she doesn't nom him, and i think that is backed up by him saying whilst walking around in the garden talking to himself words to the effect of

im sick of pretending to like people in here so they don't put me up.

And i accept he has the right to defend himself, and i am not saying this reveles a dark side to Aaron i am saying though, regardless of motive it's about how you defend yourself and he chose to do it via manipulating noms = game. I'm not sure what was happening with the Wolfpack that encouraged him manipulate the noms. I'd suggest it's been his plan all along and would of done it regardless of any provocation.

Yeah, fair points, it's all risk/reward. Personally i really like seeing HMs defy the group/peer pressure. It makes for a much more interesting dynamic than a house full of fence sitters or robots. But, unfortunately often it doesn't do any favours with the public perception, is the only point i was making. I really hope you're right, and it doesn't affect his chances, but i guess i'm a little more pessimistic than you.

Not everyone on this forum agrees with YOU.

Speak for yourself.

So you are Aaron's 'twin' - and cop every ump he cops. Good for you.

I don't think you really want me to tell you.

Then why grab her for a snog (both times) when the camera is right beside them and pointing at them? He does it when he is on his OWN plenty as well.

I didn't mention the fans, they are the same most of the time. I was talking about the panel guests who are FAR from split about him. I can't recall ONE guest in the last few weeks who has anything good to say about him - quite the opposite.

So Liam the oracle has spoken. That proves Aaron must be great. :hugesmile:
Hate is a strong word. I don't hate Aaron - I think he is manipulative, immature, self - centered and a wet fish and yes, I don't understand BB fans admiration for him. I really don't. But I don't hate him - lets say I don't think he would be a worthy winner because I don't admire his behaviour.

You are so wrong Cromwell. It wasn't the first day at all. And as far as I recall - Rebeckah also made some comment about her own looks when he said about her being his fav girl, trying to get a compliment from him into the bargain, and Aaron didn't bite.......then she went off, he went to the loo, and as he opened the door to the loo, that's when he said, "God I hate that girl".

It was most definately NOT the first day. You are 100% wrong.

So what if Aaron is moody and sulky at times? Jeez the amount of cr*p he's had thrown his way by BB itself as well as his fellow HMs has been disgusting. NONE of the other HMs have had to deal with anything like the hatchet job Channel 5 have tried (and failed) to do on him throughout the whole show. On top of that he is with the nightmare that is Faye who has played mind games with him throughout. He's bloody entitled to be moody and sulky - and most reasonable people would cut him some slack.

Some people deal with anger and frustration aggressively like Jay and Anton, and to a lesser extent Harry, some deal with it passive/aggressively like Tom and Faye, constantly sniping and turning every situation around to make themselves the victim. Aaron deals with it by removing himself from the situation causing him stress - so why don't people just get that everyone's way of coping is different? I admire him for not faking his persona, he has shown us every side of himself, and those that like him take the good with the bad, just as we do in real life with people we choose to be our friends. We either decide the bad outweighs the good and avoid like the plague, or that the good outweighs the bad and makes a friendship worthwhile.

I maintain that every single HM has a game plan, some are better than others. Alex's is clearly successful in that she has been deliberately inoffensive and avoided being nominated by her fellow HMs and sailed through to the final. Jay's and Louise's is blindingly obvious, a fauxmance where neither rock the boat, pity they're both so repulsive. Jay's original game plan (the pathetic wolfpack) was destroyed by Aaron, so he must be thanking his lucky stars he had the backup of the fauxmance. Tom's is to attach himself to the obvious favourite (I'm sure they all got a good heads up from Jemma), and to sail under the radar. Faye's was to attach herself to Aaron once she knew he was popular and play the on/off romance game which is wrongly attributed to Aaron, when in fact it is all down to her "Don't speak to me ever again"/ "Why aren't you talking to me Aaron?" cr*p that cause all the problems.

Then we have the more blatant gameplayers like Anton, who cast himself as the master villain, and Harry the mischievous posh guy who took no sh*t from anyone. Aaron, a massive BB fan, approached it all a bit more clinically and has read the house well, being able to work out nominations etc and using his natural charm and intelligence to work people out and outwit his enemies in the house.`He has orchestrated getting certain HMs up for eviction and helping the public to rid the house of them.

Of course, he has p*ssed off people in the house else they wouldn't have put him up for eviction, and I admire that he hasn't crawl a*sed around the other HMs to avoid it. It must be baffling to the HMs why he is so popular! However, he has not tried to deceive the viewers by adopting a fake persona - he has just been himself, awkward, geeky, somewhat straitlaced around a bunch of people whose habits and conversation often border on the obscene and the obnoxious. He is basically a decent, likeable, often very funny guy whose morals and values obviously resonate with a fair number of people who have been glued to BB purely to watch HIM.

He is probably the most unique and charismatic BB HM ever, the most talked about (whether good or bad) and has contributed more to the show than any other HM.
Will he win? Well a lot of us think he deserves it more than anyone else left in the house, so no doubt we will do our best to ensure that he does. Regardless of whether he does win or not, he will definitely go down in BB history as one of the all time great HMs.