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Suze 10-12-2011 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 4811930)
It's relevant to Alex's gameplaying and serves as a valid point of comparison. if Alex is indeed like Jay says then Aaron also had her wrong, he loved her in the house and he also seems to be not too happy about her not splitting the money. Therefore; Aaron is also an idiot

It's not relevant to the thread at all, it is those four being discussed, it is only relevant if is irking you that it shows JayLoo for the idiots they are I suppose. This thread is not about Aaron, if you believe him to be an idiot so be it, but the fact you pulled him up to an Aaron fan, just makes you look like you are trying to bait Aaron fans. Sorry that won't work with me :D you can think what you like of Aaron, BB12 is over, Aaron won it, so I really am not bothered that much any more, I just like discussing stuff still is all :) Aaron as I already said reckoned Alex amongst others were playing a game, but it never bothered him, he still found her ok. It was JayLoo who paid £500 for a present for someone they couldn't suss, not Aaron :D

I am not going to be drawn into baiting of us Aaron fans, so rant about Aaron all you wish, I shant join in :D

Pyramid* 10-12-2011 10:26 PM

Where's the piccy of them gone? :conf:

I rather liked Jay having that "I'll quickly step into the frame here" pose. :bawling:

Suze 10-12-2011 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowball (Post 4811947)
Where's the piccy of them gone? :conf:

I rather liked Jay having that "I'll quickly step into the frame here" pose. :bawling:

He couldn't even be bothered to put his arm round his *ahem* wifey to be could he :D

Pyramid* 10-12-2011 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 4811944)
It's not that funny.. it's just putting things into context so as to draw comparisons and actually widen the focus of discussion, it would be stupid only to discuss Alex's gameplaying as though Jay was the only one affected by it

I DO find it that funny, that Jay supporters/Non Aaron fans are the ones themselves who take the threads off topic in favour of discussing Aaron.:spin:

What Aaron has to do with Jay, Louise, Alex and Tom attending a PA event together, when he wasn't with them, beats me - nor what this has to do with Jay's tweets about Alex has to do with Aaron either, mystifies me also.

As I say though: if it's allowed to veer off topic in favour of making it about Aaron, I'm quite as happy to discuss Aaron instead.

MTVN 10-12-2011 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Sudolph (Post 4811945)
It's not relevant to the thread at all, it is those four being discussed, it is only relevant if is irking you that it shows JayLoo for the idiots they are I suppose. This thread is not about Aaron, if you believe him to be an idiot so be it, but the fact you pulled him up to an Aaron fan, just makes you look like you are trying to bait Aaron fans. Sorry that won't work with me :d you can think what you like of Aaron, BB12 is over, Aaron won it, so I really am not bothered that much any more., I just like discussing stuff still is all :) Aaron as I already said reckoned Alex amongst others were playing a game, but it never bothered him, he still found her ok.It was JayLoo who paid £500 for a present for someone they couldn't suss, not Aaron :D

I am not going to be draewn into baiting of us Aaron fans, so rant about aaron all you wish, I shant join in :D

Like I said.. it's just putting things into context so as to draw comparisons and actually widen the focus of discussion, it would be stupid only to discuss Alex's gameplaying as though Jay was the only one affected by it. I'm sorry but it annoys me when people think that just because a housemates name isn't in the title of a thread he can't be discussed, and besides I'm using Aaron as a point of comparison to Jay.

Like you said BB's over so let's chill out and drop the accusations, I've never tried to bait Aaron fans, that would imply I'm trying to provoke and insult them in an abrasive and hostile manner which would just stupidly petulant, I was making what I considered to be a valid point and in a very reasonable way. I was hardly "ranting" and I also did not only talk about Aaron, I said "or any of them for that matter", I could try and argue that by quoting a post that was directed at me and going on about Jaylou being an "idiot" you were trying to bait me, but I won't say that because I know you weren't doing that.

You've made my post out to be baiting, angry, hostile and rude, which it wasn't at all, nor was it intended to come across that way

Pyramid* 10-12-2011 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Sudolph (Post 4811949)
He couldn't even be bothered to put his arm round his *ahem* wifey to be could he :D

One would have thought that given it was a PA event, that he'd have at least tried to look all loved up with the woman he just got engaged to.

For me, this has Josie and JJ all over again. :hugesmile: How long did that last - was just on the 6months mark after their mag deals/paid flat deal was up eh?

Pyramid* 10-12-2011 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 4811958)
Like I said.. it's just putting things into context so as to draw comparisons and actually widen the focus of discussion, it would be stupid only to discuss Alex's gameplaying as though Jay was the only one affected by it. I'm sorry but it annoys me when people think that just because a housemates name isn't in the title of a thread he can't be discussed, and besides I'm using Aaron as a point of comparison to Jay.

Like you said BB's over so let's chill out and drop the accusations, I've never tried to bait Aaron fans, that would imply I'm trying to provoke and insult them in an abrasive and hostile manner which would just stupidly petulant, I was making what I considered to be a valid point and in a very reasonable way. I was hardly "ranting" and I also did not only talk about Aaron, I said "or any of them for that matter", I could try and argue that by quoting a post that was directed at me and going on about Jaylou being an "idiot" you were trying to bait me, but I won't say that because I know you weren't doing that.

You've made my post out to be baiting, angry, hostile and rude, which it wasn't at all, nor was it intended to come across that way

What though has Aaron really to do with the topic?

Aaron isn't the one bitching on twitter about Alex?

Aaron said he felt that Alex was also playing a game in the house - he wasn't that much of an idiot to chuck away £500 on a gift for Alex, a woman he'd only known in a very false environment - he was smart enough to NOT do that. How then can you compare idiocy levels - unless of course, it's in Aaron's favour given what I've just said here.

MTVN 10-12-2011 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowball (Post 4811967)
What though has Aaron really to do with the topic?

Aaron isn't the one bitching on twitter about Alex?

Aaron said he felt that Alex was also playing a game in the house - he wasn't that much of an idiot to chuck away £500 on a gift for Alex, a woman he'd only known in a very false environment - he was smart enough to NOT do that. How then can you compare idiocy levels - unless of course, it's in Aaron's favour given what I've just said here.

I've tried to explain, if you don't agree with my explanation than fine but I'm not going to repeat myself.

Pyramid* 10-12-2011 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 4811975)
I've tried to explain, if you don't agree with my explanation than fine but I'm not going to repeat myself.

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Like I said.. it's just putting things into context so as to draw comparisons and actually widen the focus of discussion, it would be stupid only to discuss Alex's gameplaying as though Jay was the only one affected by it. I'm sorry but it annoys me when people think that just because a housemates name isn't in the title of a thread he can't be discussed, and besides I'm using Aaron as a point of comparison to Jay.

I read your explanation and it doesn't cover what I asked though. :conf:

Aaron clearly showed he was smarter - in the diary room, he voiced his thoughts that Alex was playing a game.

Aaron didn't fall into the 'buying friends' £500 gifts and then bitch about the person the gifts had been purchased for.

Aaron didn't fall into the same mistake of thinking that people in the house would be the same outside of the house - I recall him discussing this.

Aaron isn't on twitter slagging Alex off - Jay is, therefore if Aaron is affected by Alex's actions (gameplaying in the house), I'm not aware that he has intimated anything that could be compared to him also being 'affected' by her game playing.

How therefore can Aaron be used as a point of comparison, when there is nothing to compare with, to Jay?

:conf:

MTVN 10-12-2011 11:03 PM

Because I believe he too was fooled by Alex's nice act, as shown by how highly he held her in regard and how dissapointed he seemed when he admitted that it doesn't look like the money's going to be split

Brother Leon 10-12-2011 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 4811879)
Would seem that Aaron couldn't suss it out either, or any of them for that matter

None of them did which shocked me.


I forgot the moment Anton questioned her genuinity after I think she nommed him but he was called bitter:nono:

Pyramid* 10-12-2011 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 4811999)
Because I believe he too was fooled by Alex's nice act, as shown by how highly he held her in regard and how dissapointed he seemed when he admitted that it doesn't look like the money's going to be split

See, this is the bit Im not getting. How could he have been fooled when Aaron himself said in the house that he thought Alex had her own gameplan?

There is of course every possibility that he may have 'seemed' disappointed in her possibly not splitting the money - but has he been on slagging her to bits on Twitter about her not being a nice person? I don't think so - but feel free if there's info to the contrary that I've not seen/read.

Here are some of Jay's tweets about Alex. How do these compare with anything that Aaron has said about Alex?

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@RealJayMcKray Jay McKray
@GabrielleAmma there is no money situation Alex is just a nasty person that's al x

@RealJayMcKray Jay McKray
@lucysummerfield door on lou she's just horrible it's al been a act

@RealJayMcKray Jay McKray
@micandmaz @cliffe1 no 1 cares about the money man this has getting carried away just Alex is a nasty person

@RealJayMcKray Jay McKray
@VickySimpson83 @cliffe1 an not slagging no 1 cares about money man just nasty bastards am havin 2 sit in a fookin car with lol

@RealJayMcKray Jay McKray @JordanAllison_ it's not just Alex is a nasty bitch slammer car doors on my lou it's not on end

@RealJayMcKray Jay McKray @MegssRose @vickylee09 not a nice person called me and lou scum of the earth and slammed the car door on lou she is nasty person

Don't you think Jay, the same guy who put his own sh*t in a fridge/freezer, peed on another man, shaved his arse then used the same razor to cut someone's hair with, the man who cursed Aaron upside down, threatned him with physical violence........ has a wee bit of a cheek to refer to any other housemate as being 'scum / nasty bitch / not a nice person / horrible / nasty bastard'.

Alex has probably heard what Louise said about her - and is treating her the way Louise deserves to be treated imo. You don't buy someone £500 gifts, then go bitch about that person, then continually ram it down that person's throat, how much the gifts cost. That could possibly be part of the reason for Alex's behaviour toward Louise.

You seriously cannot see how hypocritical this guy is?

:D

Samuel. 10-12-2011 11:31 PM

Haven't read every post, but Aaron did say on multiple occasions that he didn't completely believe Alex was being truly herself and there was something off about her, but he was happy to be ignorant to it and just enjoy the relationship they had.

BBfan6418 10-12-2011 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowball (Post 4811990)
I read your explanation and it doesn't cover what I asked though. :conf:

Aaron clearly showed he was smarter - in the diary room, he voiced his thoughts that Alex was playing a game.

Aaron didn't fall into the 'buying friends' £500 gifts and then bitch about the person the gifts had been purchased for.

Aaron didn't fall into the same mistake of thinking that people in the house would be the same outside of the house - I recall him discussing this.

Aaron isn't on twitter slagging Alex off - Jay is, therefore if Aaron is affected by Alex's actions (gameplaying in the house), I'm not aware that he has intimated anything that could be compared to him also being 'affected' by her game playing.

How therefore can Aaron be used as a point of comparison, when there is nothing to compare with, to Jay?

:conf:

He can't slag her off because he owes Jay 20K. He also has not been in a car with her for 10hrs.

Pyramid* 10-12-2011 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Samuel. (Post 4812035)
Haven't read every post, but Aaron did say on multiple occasions that he didn't completely believe Alex was being truly herself and there was something off about her, but he was happy to be ignorant to it and just enjoy the relationship they had.

:worship:

I'm glad that someone else other than Suze and I recall Aaron saying this, he often commented that she wasn't as daft as she made out to be either.

MTVN 10-12-2011 11:35 PM

Can only remember him saying it once, near the end of the series in the Diary Room. Even if he did think she was playing a game to some extent I still think he thought she was genuinely a really nice and loveable person, think Jay also said something in the Crypt about her being different

Pyramid* 10-12-2011 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BBfan6418 (Post 4812039)
He can't slag her off because he owes Jay 20K. He also has not been in a car with her for 10hrs.


How do you know that Jay and Aaron haven't come to some agreement after what we saw on the highlights?

Or is Jay bitching about Aaron as well?

Pyramid* 10-12-2011 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 4812041)
Can only remember him saying it once, near the end of the series in the Diary Room. Even if he did think she was playing a game to some extent I still think he thought she was genuinely a really nice and loveable person, think Jay also said something in the Crypt about her being different

Yes, Jay said both she and Louise were 'coming over' as really boring.

I recall Aaron making mention one time he was in the garden about Alex, as well as in the diary room.

BBfan6418 10-12-2011 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 4812041)
Can only remember him saying it once, near the end of the series in the Diary Room. Even if he did think she was playing a game to some extent I still think he thought she was genuinely a really nice and loveable person, think Jay also said something in the Crypt about her being different


I only remember him saying it at the end as well. Heck, he put Alex in front of his girlfriend and risked his relationship on it.

Pyramid* 10-12-2011 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BBfan6418 (Post 4812055)
I only remember him saying it at the end as well. Heck, he put Alex in front of his girlfriend and risked his relationship on it.

He still said it though: so he wasn't as fooled as Jay was.

He risked his relationship, really?. Wasn't much of a gamble seeing as he and Faye are still together.

He also said he'd be happy to see Alex win.

King Gizzard 10-12-2011 11:48 PM

I've never really understood why people use their accents when typing on a keyboard

Pyramid* 10-12-2011 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Jingle Bellend (Post 4812074)
I've never really understood why people use their accents when typing on a keyboard

*Is guilty of the odd 'disnae' / 'yer' myself : when it's done for effect*

BBfan6418 11-12-2011 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 4812041)
Can only remember him saying it once, near the end of the series in the Diary Room. Even if he did think she was playing a game to some extent I still think he thought she was genuinely a really nice and loveable person, think Jay also said something in the Crypt about her being different

I think what's getting lost here is the part in bold. I knew she was fake in the house as did a lot of other people. Most didn't care. They knew she had another side to her from youtube videos and stuff. But I think the side Jay is seeing might even shock some of us. Not sharing the money was not a shock.

calyman 11-12-2011 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Jingle Bellend (Post 4812074)
I've never really understood why people use their accents when typing on a keyboard

yer accent kin often make mair relevant points than ra auld QE kin......byeraway

Jake. 11-12-2011 09:20 AM

Jay and Louise are a couple of twa*s who now think they are posh and becks. Aaron got £50 grand and Alex split her 30 with Tom. so frickin what? If Jay was in Alexs shoes, he would have booked a flight for him and Lou straight away after leaving the house. Oh, and how can someone who shat in a freezer and made verbal abusive comments to Aaron talk about respect? Think it is time for him to grow the ***** up!

billy123 11-12-2011 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by JH95 (Post 4812442)
Jay and Louise are a couple of twa*s who now think they are posh and becks. Aaron got £50 grand and Alex split her 30 with Tom. so frickin what? If Jay was in Alexs shoes, he would have booked a flight for him and Lou straight away after leaving the house. Oh, and how can someone who shat in a freezer and made verbal abusive comments to Aaron talk about respect? Think it is time for him to grow the ***** up!

Oh dear!!

http://images.cheezburger.com/comple...51abc8624b.jpg





kids will be kids i suppose.

armand.kay 11-12-2011 12:08 PM

:laugh2:What I would do to be in that car ! :joker::joker:

Vicky. 11-12-2011 12:46 PM

LOL. Well I did say at the start of the series that my sis knew alex and says shes a total bitch and was being fake in the house, and noone wanted to hear it :whistle:

That said, I did think her 'house personality' was a good one and started to warm to her towards the end...but it was obvious she was putting it on :laugh:

Kazanne 11-12-2011 01:01 PM

IMO,Aaron should have got the lot as the others were deadwood!it SHOULD be him moaning really,

armand.kay 11-12-2011 01:07 PM

Come to think of it Alex does have a evil looking face even in that picture she looks villainous :joker:

Visage 11-12-2011 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 4812542)
LOL. Well I did say at the start of the series that my sis knew alex and says shes a total bitch and was being fake in the house, and noone wanted to hear it :whistle:

I heard you, I listened and I believed you. I just wasn't vocal in my support to you...:blush:

Pyramid* 11-12-2011 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JH95 (Post 4812442)
Jay and Louise are a couple of twa*s who now think they are posh and becks. Aaron got £50 grand and Alex split her 30 with Tom. so frickin what? If Jay was in Alexs shoes, he would have booked a flight for him and Lou straight away after leaving the house. Oh, and how can someone who shat in a freezer and made verbal abusive comments to Aaron talk about respect? Think it is time for him to grow the ***** up!

Said the same thing myself earlier..... it's hilarious!

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Originally Posted by calyman (Post 4812412)
yer accent kin often make mair relevant points than ra auld QE kin......byeraway

'an aw thaht'.... yer mental fur bein aw gallus 'n' nat...

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 4812542)
LOL. Well I did say at the start of the series that my sis knew alex and says shes a total bitch and was being fake in the house, and noone wanted to hear it :whistle:

That said, I did think her 'house personality' was a good one and started to warm to her towards the end...but it was obvious she was putting it on :laugh:


You sure did and you took pelters IIRC - but as you say with her game plan working, she played a blinder and came out with £30k and a pair of £500 Jimmy Choos ......... :D

Benjamin 11-12-2011 02:40 PM

For someone that isn't bothered by money Jay seems to have a hell of a lot to say about everything regarding the money. I don't think any other housemate has gone on about it so bloody much. And if he shared his with Lou, why is he so bothered whether Alex has given money to Aaron when he clearly dislikes him? I think Jay is just desperate for some kind of publicity for him and Lou. :idc:

Vicky. 11-12-2011 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by God (Post 4812621)
For someone that isn't bothered by money Jay seems to have a hell of a lot to say about everything regarding the money. I don't think any other housemate has gone on about it so bloody much. And if he shared his with Lou, why is he so bothered whether Alex has given money to Aaron when he clearly dislikes him? I think Jay is just desperate for some kind of publicity for him and Lou. :idc:

LOL yeah I was thinking that. he seems to grab any opportunity to mention it...but always adds that he doesnt care about the money as he has his loo :joker:

Pyramid* 11-12-2011 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 4812628)
LOL yeah I was thinking that. he seems to grab any opportunity to mention it...but always adds that he doesnt care about the money as he has his loo :joker:

Loo, the girl that he 'Love's' :hugesmile:

Pyramid* 11-12-2011 04:24 PM

Tee hee...... he's still not a happy chappy is he !!! :D

Tweets from an hour ago

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Davieess Jessie Davies



@RealJayMckray are you with Alex ??

1 hour ago



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http://a2.twimg.com/profile_images/1...age_normal.jpg @RealJayMcKray Jay McKray


@Davieess I she's in the front last time al see a hopefully lol


calyman 11-12-2011 04:48 PM

[QUOTE=Snowball;'an aw thaht'.... yer mental fur bein aw gallus 'n' nat...[/QUOTE]

Gawnie no say that, how no? Jist gawnie no
:laugh:

I'm just wondering, while they were travelling in the car, if Alex was wearing her new shoes and perhaps kept asking Tom if he knew what time it was!!!!!!

Jake. 11-12-2011 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bobnot (Post 4812473)
Oh dear!!

http://images.cheezburger.com/comple...51abc8624b.jpg





kids will be kids i suppose.

No need to patronise me

MrWong 11-12-2011 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 4811930)
It's relevant to Alex's gameplaying and serves as a valid point of comparison. if Alex is indeed like Jay says then Aaron also had her wrong, he loved her in the house and he also seems to be not too happy about her not splitting the money. Therefore; Aaron is also an idiot

Oh well. Atleast he didn't waste his cash on a present for her in a desperate attempt to curry favour with the voting public.

I'm sure Aaron mentioned that Alex was playing a game too on a couple of occasions and also that she was not as thick as she made out.

As for the one-sided Twitter row, Jay sounds like a right drama queen with his OTT bitchin' to his Twitter audience. Then again i shouldn't be suprised. He was exactly the same in the house. Always needing an audience whilst he bitched away fish wife stylee. Utter tw*t.

Out of everyone in that house it is Jay who has mentioned the money the most, by far! He's not bothered about it though, no really! :rolleyes:

Pyramid* 11-12-2011 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by calyman (Post 4812739)
Gawnie no say that, how no? Jist gawnie no
:laugh:


Uch, husht yer weesht ya dunderheid - ya wee rajjie thut ye'ir.

:laugh:

(that's actually quite hard to do !! LOL)


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