DS if I remember correctly

Weird. I don't see how having posters as mods would be problematic; it's worked for every other forum I've been on.

How boring for the DS mods. And what's to say they wouldn't be just as opinionated as a poster would be.

thanks for your insult! i rest my case!

No problem. :love:

Hold on, how does that rest your case, I'm not a mod.

my case is,if you cant put your opinion across without haveing to insulting me!,
then you show your ignorance to all on here,

PC gone mad, and if you think kids don't know swear words then I give up!

Quite how this thread has become a mods v FM's is another point I don't understand.

You can be the best parent in the world and vet your childs viewing habits, but they will still hear it in the big bad world out there. Much better imo is to acknowledge real life, and educate your children about what is acceptable and what isn't! Don't try and wrap them in cotton wool and pretend it doesn't exist, it does, deal with it appropriately.

Erm, isn't that the Watershed is all about ?

Swearing is not acceptable before the watershed but is acceptable, under certain conditions, thereafter .....

Whether you let your young children watch programs with swearing in after the watershed is your business .....

Still don't understand what that's got to do with my example that chances are that an 18 year old man wouldn't complain.

You know it's funny, I refrained from insulting you on your quite frankly prudish, ignorant views on the basis that I thought you wouldn't sink to such petty levels, how wrong was I?

If I, and people around me choose to swear that doesn't mean we have low social standards, it just means we aren't as uptight as you are about such irrelevant issues. There are many excuses for swearing (not that anybody needs excuses for saying a word anyway), one of them being when you've hurt yourself or you're annoyed, going by what you're saying if someone fell over in the street, snapped their leg in half and blood was shooting everywhere and they shouted '******!' you'd look down upon them with disgust and disregard them because they have 'low social standards'. It's such a pathetic stance to take upon such a silly issue.

And no, swearing doesn't mean you lack a wide vocabulary either, that's another overused, ignorant cliche. Stephen Fry swears but he certainly isn't some ill-educated Essex chav.

Fair point I suppose, although there are varying degrees of severity. A graphic sex scene compared to a few uses of the word '******' aren't really on the same level. I do agree 10pm works better for BB though, but it still annoys me how '*****' is bleeped out at such a late time, not only in BB but in other shows too.

18 year old "boy", in many cases, but still nominally adult and therefore free to make lifestyle choices, for better or for worse, uninhibited by experience .....

Regrettably, you sank to the petty insult level first ..... and you're at it again - ...... :nono:

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That's just silly. Oh for **** sake. :bored:

I'm sorry but you're really not making any sense. My original point to Niamh was that, although there'd be exceptions to the rule, I expect (as I'm pretty sure most people do) that the large majority of those who complain are either elderly or parents who are concerned about the type of content their children watch, not 18 year old guys. What 13 year olds and younger children have to do with that, I have no idea. The point I made was about who was complaining, not who people were complaining about the protection of.

I don't recall insulting you once before that post of yours in this thread :conf:

Keep ontopic please

Flexibility cuts both ways. For those offended by unwarranted combinations of vowels and consonants, coming up to nine should be the time to prepare yourself to switch off or switch over. Most progs do not finish at 9pm exactly, you can expect your show to finish with a few minutes to spare. So use this flexibility to the best of your pre-watershed ability. There are always killjoys telling the rest of us what we should see, hear and what we should think.

A handful of moaners and complainers should not have undue influence.

OTOH, extremists should not hold sway ..... ;)

When you mentioned extremists, I immediately thought of Mary Whitehouse......and of course, others of her ilk. The hypocrisy of faux morality is not for me.

Some morality is better than none at all ..... :idc:

It's odd that it's fine that for Channel 4 to televise full frontal nudity at 8pm yet Ofcom are kicking up a fuss at swearing happening after the watershed

What was the incident of "full frontal nudity at 8pm" ..... ?

How to look good naked & Embarrassing Bodies are always allowed to do it

OFCOM say :

Since I've seen neither of the programs you mention, I can't say whether they stick to the guidelines .....

Yes Ofcom are Odd

Not that bothered what the official Ofcom stance is, but given that those programs still get aired I'd presume they don't consider it a problem, just pointing out a strange inconsistency in their guidelines

same as there is on this forum!, it all depends if your a jay or aaron fan!

Well I'm a Mod and a Jay fan while some other Mods are Aaron fans so I'd say not

I see no inconsistency - nudity is not the same as swearing - nudity can be educational or artistic - swearing can be neither

The raving idiots at Ofcom have generated a broadcasting code that broadcasters have to second guess if or when they are braking it......Ofcom have the intelligence of a rotting rat.

A water shed should be just that clear and defined. It should be the resposibility of parents to ensure a transition time for their children.......But no Ofcom in their usual stupid wisdom creat a set of ifs and buts and what evers for broadcaster to trip over and some moaning half wit that complains to ofcom give the stupid gits the chance to play at being stupid gits......

Ofcom half wits have not yet caught on to the fact of life that young children behind their parents back and some times in front of them swear like bloody troopers.......

The Ofcom silly dick heads are protecting no one from anything........The corruption of the young is already truly embedded in our crazy drug taking knife weilding society.....To late to shut the stable door the horse bolted decades ago.......

First real case of some sense I've seen in this thread.

Nudity is worse for TV as it offers nothing.

its never too late,to learn right from wrong!

That Ciaran Ferguson certainly had something to say. Probably too forthright for BB. Stick on a ****** and a 18 year old with NICE HAIR!

.... and swearing offers ?

It is very insulting and I suspect, a comment purely designed to be exactly that.




Re the complaints: it's after the watershed - so I'm not sure why anyone should have issues either way. If they don't like it - turn it off - the show always comes with a warning.

With regards to all your other comments Jack: it's about time you got rid of this chip off your shoulder you have when it's about anyone who is over the age of 16........ if you were making sexist, homophobic or racist comments: you'd be infracted - but it's fine to make ageist comments right left and centre just because you feel like being a bit contraversial.

You have NO idea of the demographics of those who complain to OFCOM - but I bet there are plenty stuck up younger generations without kids who are quick enough to do it - just because they can - most mothers/fathers of young kids will be too busy working & running their family lives to spend time phoning/writing/emailing OFCOM.

It's about time you grew up a bit - and realised that some of the ones complaining about those reporting to OFCOM - such as yourself - fall into the teenager bracket - and you are in effect: doing the same thing yourself as you are accusing the older generation of doing.

Bit of irony there Jack - given that you are moaning about the older generation moaning. Time you got that chip off your shoulder: the world is a far nice place without having to lug it around. With or without the expletives that you found it necessary to include in your posts.

Well sometimes it can be funny if used in the right context imo,but no overall I dont think it adds much either but it certainly adds more to a show and in real life than nudity does,like I wouldnt be seeing strangers naked in real life would I.:joker:

Depends where you go. :evilgrin:

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