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CharlieO 28-01-2012 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CherieB (Post 4918799)
maybe you should take your own advice and get out more, if the forum is upsetting you that much, maybe a few days helping out in a charity shop or doing something more useful with your time would be just the ticket? otherwise you could just let it all drift over you, and not worry about having the last word!

I do not see what advice I need to be taken. I am not upset over anything at all. All I am suggesting is a place where posts can be moved to so that an debate can be finished/resolved rather than being deleted half way through.

CharlieO 28-01-2012 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu (Post 4918798)
Kid it's not like we are talking about LOST spoilers. If a fight thread exists I'm going to have a read of it. The mere existence of it would take the magic away from spontaneous off topic arguments.

See you're not the only one who can make "I'm suggesting this because I can't control myself ahhhhhhh!" arguments.

I am not suggesting a fight thread. I am suggesting a 'resolve your debate thread rather than it being deleted out of the blue' thread.

CharlieO 28-01-2012 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Marc (Post 4918773)
To be honest you can ignore a thread or report any nuisances just as much as you can with a thread. And you can delete them if you want to leave the conversation. To be completely honest, as much as your arguments with half the forum would be entertaining for everybody else to read it would only cause arguments and sides being taken and for tensions to build and spill over into other threads by people who aren't even involved in the original argument.

I am not suggesting arguments that are so outrageous that they would spill over. I just want a thread where debates with fully justified points can be carried on rather than just to be straight deleted as if we are under such control of you moderators that part of us just can get erased at your choosing.

It could be a rule that others are not to join with out both parties consent.

Please just relate this to my original post and what I proposed not the baboons shouting for a 'Fight Club'.

Marc 28-01-2012 06:16 PM

They would though Charlie. I don't think it's a risk we should take.

Also I don't want newbies coming on to loads of arguments.

Stu 28-01-2012 06:19 PM

So if these debates are so acceptable in a public space - their only crime driving other threads off topic - why does it require a specialist thread? Why not just give the debate it's own thread for it to carry on?

CharlieO 28-01-2012 06:19 PM

You could always trial it for a month in off season. There aren't that many new members so it shouldn't affect it massively. And we could get a finite answer if you trial it.

It isn't like this is the government. There is no harm in trying. You can always revert it with no affect.

CharlieO 28-01-2012 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu (Post 4918844)
So if these debates are so acceptable in a public space - their only crime driving other threads off topic - why does it require a specialist thread? Why not just give the debate it's own thread for it to carry on?

Because the moderators would not allow it, as it apparently puts new members off. In affect that is what I am asking for though. One single thread or a thread for each debate I do not mind.

Niamh. 28-01-2012 06:25 PM

Charlie, just take it to PM, if the person doesn't want to reply to you via PM, they probably won't want to reply to you in an argument thread either. Seems to me like you just want an audience to watch you argue with and try to belittle people.

Stu 28-01-2012 06:26 PM

I'm just finding your paper thin logic a bit of a poor mask to be honest. You want a thread for what would otherwise be deleted stuff to be allowed carry on. Oh but there is nothing wrong with this stuff ... it was just in the wrong place at the wrong time? And this absoloutely wouldn't become a slagging thread? If there was nothing wrong with the material in the first place it would be allowed continue ... just in a thread of it's own. In one of the many subforums. It doesn't need a new one.

It just sounds like you want the chastity belt to be taken off so you can get knee deep in the clunge. Now your argument is being watered down to the point of multiple debate threads? We have multiple debate threads. All the time. What is new about what you are suggesting?

G'wan away with your gay debate thread. We want a thread where people can kick each others teeth down their throats.

Josy 28-01-2012 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 4918865)
Charlie, just take it to PM, if the person doesn't want to reply to you via PM, they probably won't want to reply to you in an argument thread either. Seems to me like you just want an audience to watch you argue with and try to belittle people.

I agree with this.

Marc 28-01-2012 06:27 PM

I see this thread being closed soon :joker:

tomflint 28-01-2012 06:27 PM

lmao sh.

tomflint 28-01-2012 06:27 PM

Fight fight fight!!!!

Kate! 28-01-2012 06:29 PM

I like that you have raised this Charlie, for 2 reasons.

1 It's definitely an interesting suggestion, and worth a debate.

2 I know now who slagged me off with a vicious comment in a recent awards thread, by something said in here, choice of words is very revealing. Tsk, am surprised at you. Dont bother with a comeback, cos I dont care anymore. (I dont mean Charlie btw, its not him)

Stu 28-01-2012 06:33 PM

Who is it then? Because I don't see the merit in stirring the pot unless you're willing to list the ingredients. Sorry but it smacks of attention seeking.

Glenn. 28-01-2012 06:35 PM

I think an argument sub forum would do more harm than anything else. As someone else has pointed out, things would spill out into the forum.

I don't think it would work.

Marc 28-01-2012 06:35 PM

Stu/Kate if this is going to become something, take it to PM please

Stu 28-01-2012 06:36 PM

Nah it's not me. At least I don't think so. Her message is a bit cryptic. I read the thread again and I can't see anything to do with her.

tomflint 28-01-2012 06:37 PM

Round 1 ding ding ding

Mystic Mock 28-01-2012 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by tomflint (Post 4918903)
Round 1 ding ding ding

I'm looking forward to Round 2.:joker:

Tom4784 28-01-2012 06:38 PM

Seems completely pointless and more trouble then it'd be worth.

Marc 28-01-2012 06:39 PM

See this thread itself is turning into what I think would happen.

Snarky little comments and leading to tensions being built. The proper way to ease it all is by PMing each other, away from the eyes of everybody else.

Kate! 28-01-2012 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Marc (Post 4918895)
Stu/Kate if this is going to become something, take it to PM please

Nope, no fight etc, as Stu says this isnt going to become anything.

I just spotted something that was a dead giveaway, there will be no arguing with anyone in here, via pm or anywhere at all. As I said, I dont care. I got tons of support and have plenty of friends on here, not interested in anyone who has to knock me to feel good.
End of.

tomflint 28-01-2012 06:52 PM

woooo Kate calm it down calm it down.

Kate! 28-01-2012 07:12 PM

Sorry to disappoint you Tom, I am calm, its you who seems to want to promote trouble, I suggest you stop and calm down yourself. :hug:

tomflint 28-01-2012 07:15 PM

hahaha

tomflint 28-01-2012 07:23 PM

http://albacontrols.files.wordpress..../08/round2.png

Stu 28-01-2012 07:26 PM

I'll do an Orwell on it myself. Gentlemanly bastard that I am.

CharlieO 28-01-2012 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 4918865)
Charlie, just take it to PM, if the person doesn't want to reply to you via PM, they probably won't want to reply to you in an argument thread either. Seems to me like you just want an audience to watch you argue with and try to belittle people.

If you actually read my posts you would understand that what you said in this post is not the case.

I have no problem with a person not replying in a PM, that is perfectly fine if they want to no longer continue on with a debate. It is when you get accused of spamming an inbox that I have a problem with.

That last sentence is so ****ing degrading it makes me actually angry that you have chosen to accuse me of it. I do not desire an audience to belittle people in front of. I just do not like my posts being deleted when I have broken no rules and I thought we could possibly compromise.
You mod team are such a bunch of controlling robots who will just accuse someone of the most disgusting things because they choose to disagree with a couple of things you feel are right.

I have not once belittled someone today but my posts were deleted. So you can get of your high horse and actually listen to the little people who you think you are better than.

CharlieO 28-01-2012 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Marc (Post 4918914)
See this thread itself is turning into what I think would happen.

Snarky little comments and leading to tensions being built. The proper way to ease it all is by PMing each other, away from the eyes of everybody else.

Half of which are coming from mods themselves. I feel the conclusion must just be that the moderators are so afraid of losing even the slightest bit of power that they couldn't handle a thread where their control was the tinniest bit relaxed.

Niamh. 28-01-2012 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CharlieO (Post 4919083)
If you actually read my posts you would understand that what you said in this post is not the case.

I have no problem with a person not replying in a PM, that is perfectly fine if they want to no longer continue on with a debate. It is when you get accused of spamming an inbox that I have a problem with.

That last sentence is so ****ing degrading it makes me actually angry that you have chosen to accuse me of it. I do not desire an audience to belittle people in front of. I just do not like my posts being deleted when I have broken no rules and I thought we could possibly compromise.
You mod team are such a bunch of controlling robots who will just accuse someone of the most disgusting things because they choose to disagree with a couple of things you feel are right.

I have not once belittled someone today but my posts were deleted. So you can get of your high horse and actually listen to the little people who you think you are better than.

I have read your posts Charlie and I still feel exactly the same. I don't think I'm better than anyone else on here and I don't think I come across that way at all. I just can't see the logic in wanting to continue arguments but only in public, unless you want an audience to be watching. No one can accuse you of spamming their in box for sending one PM, if they don't reply to that one PM then they obviously aren't interested in continuing the argument. Simple.

Kate! 28-01-2012 07:38 PM

Hang on Stu, why exactly are you having a go at me?

I am not airing dirty laundry as you put it. I simply realised from this thread who had slagged me off, and thought I would let them know I knew, discreetly, and without a kickoff. That's an end to it as far as I am concerned. But yes, you are right, of course I do care really, its my nature, I care to much what people think of me, but seeing as most people on here do like me, then I will just try to not let those who dont get me down.

Kate! 28-01-2012 07:38 PM

Hang on Stu, why exactly are you having a go at me?

I am not airing dirty laundry as you put it. I simply realised from this thread who had slagged me off, and thought I would let them know I knew, discreetly, and without a kickoff. That's an end to it as far as I am concerned. But yes, you are right, of course I do care really, its my nature, I care to much what people think of me, but seeing as most people on here do like me, then I will just try to not let those who dont get me down.

Smithy 28-01-2012 07:39 PM

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Niamh. 28-01-2012 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CharlieO (Post 4919096)
Half of which are coming from mods themselves. I feel the conclusion must just be that the moderators are so afraid of losing even the slightest bit of power that they couldn't handle a thread where their control was the tinniest bit relaxed.

Really? Because you seem to be the only one in here fighting for this Charlie, no one else seems that bothered :conf:

InOne 28-01-2012 07:43 PM

Can tomflint be banned until on-season? Cheerz.

tomflint 28-01-2012 07:45 PM

why?

CharlieO 28-01-2012 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 4919109)
I have read your posts Charlie and I still feel exactly the same. I don't think I'm better than anyone else on here and I don't think I come across that way at all. I just can't see the logic in wanting to continue arguments but only in public, unless you want an audience to be watching. No one can accuse you of spamming their in box for sending one PM, if they don't reply to that one PM then they obviously aren't interested in continuing the argument. Simple.

Well you certainly act like it.

The thing is in the past I have continued a debate in a PM and the person has kept replying to the messages, but then I get accused of spamming the inbox even though they replied the same amount of times.

Also it has happened that the person goes and posts in a chat thread about the whole debate but veered in their favour so it is biased.
If the debates are for all to see people can make their honest opinions on what has been said and then no one gangs up on others based on the proposed truth by the other party. And of course then the mods do nothing because the other person is liked by you lot and without the debate out there for people to see there isn't enough evidence to back it up. Does that make sense?

It is not to belittle others in front of people. I apologise that you clearly see me as a disgusting person who would want to do that but I honestly do not.

tomflint 28-01-2012 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 4919114)

hahaha this made me laugh out loud.

Stu 28-01-2012 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by *Kate* (Post 4919111)
thought I would let them know I knew, discreetly

Good job. You're a proper ninja at it.


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