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Pyramid* 29-04-2012 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Omah (Post 5108171)
Exactly - "the true cost of the Games could be nearer £11bn once the £766m price tag for buying the Olympic Park land and £826m of legacy projects are taken into account."
Wasn't this thread started to discuss the security and it's 'affect' on the locals...... or are we just digressing into one massive debate concerning the Olympics overall because the figures didn't weigh up in your favour??

Omah 29-04-2012 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 5108177)
Who said anything about them using the insignia/ logo.

The massive influx of tourists and people from from all over the UK means more money being spent all over - it's not just the Blue Chip companies and big players that stand to benefit financially.

You need to think of the bigger picture.

I'm sure there will be plenty of 'everyday punters' who have small businesses that will reap the benefits ...... you are kidding yourself on if you don't think that will be the case.
You're kidding yourself, too ..... I'll bet you believe everything you're told ..... :laugh2:

So far you haven't come up with any firm figures, though ..... :nono:

Pyramid* 29-04-2012 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Omah (Post 5108244)
You're kidding yourself, too ..... I'll bet you believe everything you're told ..... :laugh2:

So far you haven't come up with any firm figures, though ..... :nono:

I did come up with figures: given that the revenue can only be projected - given that the event would have to finish before the beans were counted - I'd say I've put up far better points that you have.

I don't believe everything I am told (and no one is telling me anything - I'm reading and making an educated comment based on what I am reading and from which source - which happened to be the Telegraph)... and if you can't debate without being facetious - you're not worth debating with.

Omah 29-04-2012 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 5108184)
Wasn't this thread started to discuss the security and it's 'affect' on the locals...... or are we just digressing into one massive debate concerning the Olympics overall because the figures didn't weigh up in your favour??
I've supplied figures, but you haven't and, I suspect, you cant't because no-one knows what, if any, spin-off benefits of the OG will be to local residents - we only know that there will be a "ring of steel" surrounding the athletes and their entourages, both in and out of the Villages and Stadiums, to say nothing of the "protection" afforded to foreign dignitaries and OG "officials" - overt policing and covert surveillance will affect every person directly and indirectly involved with the OG - even proximity or comment will justify "investigation" ..... :eek:

Kizzy 29-04-2012 05:13 PM
To be fair I feel the predictions are at best hopeful and at worst lies regarding projected revenue...I also suspect the figures we are aware of relating to spending is only the tip of the iceburg....

Omah 29-04-2012 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 5108276)
I did come up with figures: given that the revenue can only be projected - given that the event would have to finish before the beans were counted - I'd say I've put up far better points that you have.
What figures ?

Projections? or pipedreams ..... :pipe:

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Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 5108276)
I don't believe everything I am told (and no one is telling me anything - I'm reading and making an educated comment based on what I am reading and from which source - which happened to be the Telegraph)... and if you can't debate without being facetious - you're not worth debating with.
OK ..... :xyxwave:

Pyramid* 29-04-2012 06:15 PM
For anyone who actually wants to discuss or consider the immediate and the long term benefits if all goes to plan.:

http://www.esadvertising.co.uk/en/1/2012profile.html

Quote:

The 2012 Olympics will provide the opportunity for many areas of the City to accelerate proposed regeneration projects as well as creating new ones.Below is an insight of how the London region will benefit from the 2012 games.
The Games could generate more than £32 billion in tourism revenue over the next decade
Mintel | 2008
2012 and London



The Olympic and Paralympic Games in 2012 will be an essential part of the long-term plans for London. Having absorbed the equivalent of the population of Sheffield in the last 15 years, London is expected to expand by the equivalent of the population of Leeds over the next decade.

A London Plan has been formulated to make sure that this expansion doesn’t encroach on existing green areas, and that the quality of life of Londoners is maintained and improved. The changes necessary for a successful Olympic and Paralympic Games are all consistent with the wider long-term plan for London. The regeneration of the East End - which will reclaim contaminated land for housing and a park area - is a huge project. It will not only generate 9,000 new homes, but also create even more public green space for Londoners to enjoy.

  • It is estimated that London’s GDP will increase by £5,900 (million) between 2005 and 2016
  • The Olympics provide the city with an opportunity to promote itself to the international business community and attract additional investment from overseas
  • Between 2005 and 2016 the gross value added to the tourism economy in the UK is forecast at £518m and in London at £244million,9,000 new homes will be built in turn leading to schools, health facilities and new communities being created,Parklands will be restored and enhanced restoring the recreational and ecological role of the Lower Lea Valley,It is estimated that an additional 8,164 full time jobs will be created in the UK and a further 38,875 created in London,Up to 70,000 volunteer positions will need filling for the duration of the actual events
source:
http://www.esadvertising.co.uk/en/1/2012profile.html

arista 29-04-2012 06:34 PM
The Old Match Factory Tower
is the High point.

One Resident on Ch4News
just claimed his High Flat could be a target.


But with Fighter Jets ready
they are safe.


Also they may be Dummy Missiles


Who ever Attacks
will be Killed fast
and that is Fair.

Kizzy 29-04-2012 06:38 PM
Pfft... I dont believe it, they mean when they have shipped all the benefit claimants to sheffield and leeds... haha

Omah 29-04-2012 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 5108627)
For anyone who actually wants to discuss or consider the immediate and the long term benefits if all goes to plan.:

http://www.<b>esadvertising</b>.co.u...12profile.html
The "article" is a marketing ploy by and for vested interests ..... :bored:

Pyramid* 29-04-2012 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Omah (Post 5108940)
The "article" is a marketing ploy by and for vested interests ..... :bored:
Hey: copy and paste seems to be the only way you yourself debate - can't fault me for doing what you do.... or is it only acceptable for YOU to use that as your argument. ;)

lostalex 29-04-2012 07:23 PM
Why are they telling the enemy where the missiles will be? Certainly that should be a secret you would think.

thesheriff443 29-04-2012 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 5109302)
Why are they telling the enemy where the missiles will be? Certainly that should be a secret you would think.
why would it matter if they know where the missiles are its not like they could do anything to them.

lostalex 29-04-2012 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 5109433)
why would it matter if they know where the missiles are its not like they could do anything to them.
umm, they could target them obviously.

thesheriff443 29-04-2012 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 5109460)
umm, they could target them obviously.
they target people that are not protected not rockets that are.

lostalex 29-04-2012 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 5109538)
they target people that are not protected not rockets that are.
who is "they"?

thesheriff443 29-04-2012 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 5109554)
who is "they"?
terrorists

Pyramid* 29-04-2012 07:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 5109302)
Why are they telling the enemy where the missiles will be? Certainly that should be a secret you would think.
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Originally Posted by thesheriff443 http://cdn.thisisbigbrother.com/blue/viewpost.gif
they target people that are not protected not rockets that are.
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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 5109554)
who is "they"?
Glass houses alert. :D

Pyramid* 29-04-2012 07:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 5109302)
Why are they telling the enemy where the missiles will be? Certainly that should be a secret you would think.
It's called a deterrent.

thesheriff443 29-04-2012 07:57 PM
cant see an attack coming from the air to be honest.

lostalex 29-04-2012 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 5109599)
Glass houses alert. :D
why are you smiling? what is happy about what you've said?

Pyramid* 29-04-2012 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 5109675)
why are you smiling? what is happy about what you've said?
I wasn't smiling. I was giving it Big Grin.... :D

If you honestly can't see why I had a big grin, together with what I said: I'm not explaining it to you.

thesheriff443 29-04-2012 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 5109793)
I wasn't smiling. I was giving it Big Grin.... :D

If you honestly can't see why I had a big grin, together with what I said: I'm not explaining it to you.
i did not get it.

Pyramid* 29-04-2012 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 5109816)
i did not get it.
Oh good grief the pair of you.

Irony..... the irony in lostalex asking YOU 'who are 'they' - when he himself had used the same terminology in his own post !

You know, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones and all that.

Wake up !

thesheriff443 29-04-2012 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 5109842)
Oh good grief the pair of you.

Irony..... the irony in lostalex asking YOU 'who are 'they' - when he himself had used the same terminology in his own post !

You know, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones and all that.

Wake up !
i am awake,i now get the connection of the word they, but glass houses looks out of place.

Pyramid* 29-04-2012 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 5109864)
i am awake,i now get the connection of the word they, but glass houses looks out of place.
Like missiles sitting on the top of tower blocks.....

thesheriff443 29-04-2012 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 5109879)
Like missiles sitting on the top of tower blocks.....
im just chaseing my tail with this.

Pyramid* 29-04-2012 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 5109906)
im just chaseing my tail with this.
Perhaps the serious debates side of the forum isn't for you then?

thesheriff443 29-04-2012 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 5109911)
Perhaps the serious debates side of the forum isn't for you then?
thats for me to decide not you!
serious debates.lol

Kizzy 29-04-2012 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Omah (Post 5108940)
The "article" is a marketing ploy by and for vested interests ..... :bored:
Agreed, not exactly impartial is it?

Omah 29-04-2012 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 5109052)
Hey: copy and paste seems to be the only way you yourself debate - can't fault me for doing what you do.... or is it only acceptable for YOU to use that as your argument. ;)
Who faulted you ? I admire someone who substantiates their argument with facts, but that "article" was sheer propaganda .... :idc:

Omah 29-04-2012 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 5109608)
It's called a deterrent.
Some "terrorists" would see it as an invitation, like fortified compounds in Nothern Ireland and Afghanistan, for example.

lostalex 29-04-2012 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 5109911)
Perhaps the serious debates side of the forum isn't for you then?
so you get involved halfway through a conversation, and when i challenge you, you have no answer., Maybe you should keep your mouth shut if you can't even answer simple questions.

How dare you act at all smug or knowledgeable when you havn't contributed ANYTHING to this conversation.

Good on you Sheriff for putting him in his place.

Omah 29-04-2012 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 5109651)
cant see an attack coming from the air to be honest.
Nor could the Americans .....

lostalex 29-04-2012 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Omah (Post 5110287)
Nor could the Americans .....
neigther could the british when the germans were destroying you with doodlebugs until the Americans rescued you. hmmm. Not that i expect the brits to acknowledge the fact that the ONLY reason you still HAVE a country is because America saved you in WW2, but whatever...

Mystic Mock 29-04-2012 11:27 PM
Tbf they are only protecting the civilians of London incase something bad happens while the Olympics is happening because this will be the time when tourists will be visiting London the most because it's such a huge event.

Omah 29-04-2012 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by kizzy (Post 5110264)
Agreed, not exactly impartial is it?
It could have come straight from Tory Central Office or the Lord Mayor's Parlour ..... :joker:

lostalex 29-04-2012 11:31 PM
London is also enlisting the help of how much American help for security? I hope America is sending the Uk the bill, cause there's no reason we should be paying for it. It's already been admitted by Britain that America is providing alot of the security, including an American ship off the coast of yur tiny little island. The people of the UK better be footing the bill.

Omah 30-04-2012 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 5110301)
London is also enlisting the help of how much American help for security? I hope America is sending the Uk the bill, cause there's no reason we should be paying for it. It's already been admitted by Britain that America is providing alot of the security, including an American ship off the coast of yur tiny little island. The people of the UK better be footing the bill.
Since the UK is, effectively, going on a war footing, I believe America help is still covered by the Lend-Lease Agreeement ..... ;)

Kizzy 30-04-2012 12:10 AM
The Americans will be here to protect their own...As will every other country..
coz we skint! LOL


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