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Z 10-05-2012 07:39 PM

I was a little asshole until my younger brother was born, I've seen some of the video tapes my parents made, I honestly don't know how I didn't drive them to murdering me and burying me in the back garden :laugh: I know they smacked me on occasion (and seriously, I've no idea how they only got pushed that far a couple of times) but evidently it worked - I stopped being a brat and that was that. Again, I don't know if it's something I could physically do but then I'm sure my parents thought the same before they had the child from hell :laugh:

Marc 10-05-2012 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 08marsh (Post 5129703)
Think that's a bit of an overreaction.

I just took it as it was said to me. I'm not overreacting or looking for an argument.

I think the second part of my post is still valid, we won't know how to bring our children up until we're parents.

Marc 10-05-2012 07:43 PM

Dean knows I'm not picking a fight.

InOne 10-05-2012 07:44 PM

As long as it's not abuse I doubt it does them any harm. Toughens them up a bit, can't live in cotton wool land forever so may as well start early. Think of it as like training a dog.

Mystic Mock 10-05-2012 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 5129704)
..I remember when I was younger and say I was running around and fell over or bumped into something and hurt myself..I'd then get a smack for running in the first place...
..it never seemed fair to get hurt twice

Tbf that is harsh as children run and fall over.

Tom4784 10-05-2012 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Marc (Post 5129699)
I don't know if you can say that tbh in fact you basically just said my mum is a terrible parent. Until we have kids, we won't know what's best.

Sorry but that's how I feel, smacking is for lazy parents.

Ammi 10-05-2012 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jedward fever (Post 5129723)
Tbf that is harsh as children run and fall over.

..tbf it was a different era though JF..they still had the cane at school

bbfan1991 10-05-2012 07:50 PM

I think a little tap is acceptable if kids are being naughty to teach them a lesson that what they did is wrong, although some parents go too far sometimes in wanting to teach them a lesson.

Marc 10-05-2012 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 5129734)
Sorry but that's how I feel, smacking is for lazy parents.

Think you need a smack on the bum tbh :pipe:

Vicky. 10-05-2012 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 5129704)
..I remember when I was younger and say I was running around and fell over or bumped into something and hurt myself..I'd then get a smack for running in the first place...
..it never seemed fair to get hurt twice

This I dont think is right at ALL D:

Seems very unfair, you have already been punished by falling over :shocked:

Vicky. 10-05-2012 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 5129739)
..tbf it was a different era though JF..they still had the cane at school

My dad said the cane never worked in his school. Apparently the rebellious ones used to view their cuts and that as trophies and boast about how many times they got caned :laugh:

thesheriff443 10-05-2012 07:55 PM

i got caned at school ali g style.

Marsh. 10-05-2012 07:57 PM

My god Ammi, how old are you? lol jk but you come across very erm... youthful.

Anyway, that's harsh. If I bumped my head my mum used to hit the door or table or whatever to stop me crying. lol

Vicky. 10-05-2012 08:00 PM

I guess if you smack your children, in a way its showing them violence is ok. Yes its a very watered down form of violence if its just a tap, but violence all the same.

Just been thinking about this actually...gavs oldest son and daughter were always well behaved and were never smacked. His youngest was/is a little terror and gets smacked quite a lot as he simply does not listen to anything his mother says. He has been in trouble at school quite a lot for hitting other kids. Now I dont know if thats because hes bad behaved in general, or because he thinks its ok to hit others because he gets hit himself (though hit is a bit strong...slight tap on the arse :laugh: ) but its something to think about.

On the other hand his daugther has never been in trouble for violence. And his oldest has only once, when some other kid hit him so in defence he hit back and burst his nose :joker: They tried to give gavs son a detention for that and let the other kid off, because the kid who hit first bled, while gavs kid didnt. There was absolute hell on about that.

Marc 10-05-2012 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Salman! (Post 5129695)
Just feels wrong to punish a child who isn't even old enough to go to school :shrug:

Because school is punishment enough? :laugh:

LemonJam 10-05-2012 08:04 PM

If the kids being an absolute cock, yeah

Marsh. 10-05-2012 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by LemonJam (Post 5129794)
If the kids being an absolute cock, yeah

What a good way of joining the debate. lol

bbfan1991 10-05-2012 08:07 PM

I got washing up liquid in my mouth treatment if I swore when growing up and soon learnt my lesson:joker:.

LemonJam 10-05-2012 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 08marsh (Post 5129802)
What a good way of joining the debate. lol

i have a way with words.

Ammi 10-05-2012 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 5129752)
My dad said the cane never worked in his school. Apparently the rebellious ones used to view their cuts and that as trophies and boast about how many times they got caned :laugh:

..I did get the cane once..tbf though the whole class got it..we were all just messing around..it was nearly the end of term and he threatened to cane the whole class..of course we thought that was just a ridiculous threat..

..but he did..LOL

I was so worried my parents would find out..they never did

Me. I Am Salman 10-05-2012 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Marc (Post 5129793)
Because school is punishment enough? :laugh:

No it's just that they seem much more vulnerable and unconscious of the world around them.
-waits for your next question-

Marsh. 10-05-2012 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Salman! (Post 5129828)
No it's just that they seem much more vulnerable and unconscious of the world around them.
-waits for your next question-

:suspect:

Me. I Am Salman 10-05-2012 08:21 PM

:suspect:

Redway 10-05-2012 09:35 PM

OK...my post on the other thread didn't get an anazing reaction, and I later did change my mind, but for older kids, deffo. I honestly don't have the energy to be ****ed about. I have a terrible temper.

Kizzy 10-05-2012 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Redway (Post 5130092)
OK...my post on the other thread didn't get an anazing reaction, and I later did change my mind, but for older kids, deffo. I honestly don't have the energy to be ****ed about. I have a terrible temper.

Get help.

mrlecturer 10-05-2012 10:54 PM

Firm believer of strict discipline. Nothing wrong in that.

Kizzy 10-05-2012 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mrlecturer (Post 5130239)
Firm believer of strict discipline. Nothing wrong in that.

Seeing as everyones perception of strict discipline is different, thats a pretty broad spectrum.

GypsyGoth 10-05-2012 11:50 PM

I haven't watched this video of the child being beaten (and I don't intend to).

But regarding parents hitting children. I don't think it's right. However I guess I could understand why a parent might do it, like protecting their child against something that could hurt the child more.

Jack_ 10-05-2012 11:51 PM

It's never right to smack a child.

Violence or any kind of physical abuse is totally wrong and as I've said in many threads, you need to try and get to a place where it's practically non-existent, and by smacking children, that to me just seems to teach a child that it's okay to be abusive or violent. What kind of a message is that? I also think it's morally wrong, nobody should be subject to any kind of physical abuse no matter what their age - it's one of, if not the worst kind of treatment anyone can receive.

At the end of the day if you can't control your child so much so that you have to resort to smacking them, you're not really that good a parent.

Marsh. 10-05-2012 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by kizzy (Post 5130132)
Get help.

I've been saying that since last July when he claimed he'd just lost his entire family in a car pileup.

Kizzy 10-05-2012 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 5130430)
It's never right to smack a child.

Violence or any kind of physical abuse is totally wrong and as I've said in many threads, you need to try and get to a place where it's practically non-existent, and by smacking children, that to me just seems to teach a child that it's okay to be abusive or violent. What kind of a message is that? I also think it's morally wrong, nobody should be subject to any kind of physical abuse no matter what their age - it's one of, if not the worst kind of treatment anyone can receive.

At the end of the day if you can't control your child so much so that you have to resort to smacking them, you're not really that good a parent.

Cheers kid, thanks for that :hugesmile:

GypsyGoth 10-05-2012 11:54 PM

Jack isn't a kid.

Kizzy 10-05-2012 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 08marsh (Post 5130433)
I've been saying that since last July when he claimed he'd just lost his entire family in a car pileup.

What?... flippin eck!

Marsh. 10-05-2012 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by kizzy (Post 5130441)
What?... flippin eck!

He's a strange one. I'm surprised he came back after he was lynch mobbed off the forum.

Jack_ 10-05-2012 11:58 PM

Oh and I forgot to add, in the same sense that if you have to resort to violence during an argument, you're obviously a lot less capable of controlling your temper and in a lot of cases, probably a lot less intelligent, I think it's sort of the same kind of thing here. That considering there's many forms of discipline that can be used, if you really do have to resort to physical discipline, something's not too great.

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Originally Posted by kizzy (Post 5130435)
Cheers kid, thanks for that :hugesmile:

No worries love :pat:

Quote:

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth (Post 5130437)
Jack isn't a kid.

Thank you :)

Marsh. 10-05-2012 11:59 PM

I don't like the passive aggressive tone forming in here...

*leaves quietly*

Kizzy 11-05-2012 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by 08marsh (Post 5130455)
I don't like the passive aggressive tone forming in here...

*leaves quietly*

oi! wait for me...

LemonJam 11-05-2012 12:08 AM

it'd be interesting to see who was hit and who wasn't and see if there's a correlation as to whether they agree with it or not... but I wouldn't want to raid into peoples privacy or anything. idk. i feel awkward posting this. ama post it anyway.

Marsh. 11-05-2012 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by LemonJam (Post 5130468)
it'd be interesting to see who was hit and who wasn't and see if there's a correlation as to whether they agree with it or not... but I wouldn't want to raid into peoples privacy or anything. idk. i feel awkward posting this. ama post it anyway.

Hi... I'm 08marsh... and I'm a victim of smack via slipper.

lostalex 11-05-2012 12:16 AM

i can remember only 3 instances where my parents used phsyical violence(spanking) as a form of discipline, and it was definitely wrong. Talking to friends later in life i found out that they had much more physical violence (spanking) in their households.

Any physical violence is always unacceptable. But it is ESPECIALLY unacceptable when the violence is directed at someone who is at a physical disadvantage and/or has no means of defense.

hitting a child is no different than abusing an old person in a care home, or disabled people.


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